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Elan Magfire 10 - Good fit?

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
Hi guys;

Lurker's first post...

I'm looking to get back into the sport. Been snowboarding for the last few years :, then, at the end of the season, skied a few days. Man, I still love it!

So, here it goes. Intermediate skier, 6', 200lbs, likes to cruise blues, moderate speed (ok, a bit faster on a good day).

I've decided on Elan Magfire 10s. And I always liked shorter skis.

So, the questions:
1. What do you think about the skis?
2. Would you say 168s are too short? I know the manufacturer says 176... But, like I said. I like them short - goof around, turn easier etc.

Oh, I ski at Sunshine Villge mostly (near Calgary), all over the place. Groomed, sometime between the trees, and a bit out of bounds...

Let me know what do you guys think.

P.S.: Great forum, by the way! It's sooo comforting to see that people can still actually spell, for a change...

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post #2 of 17
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Originally Posted by Ro.nin View Post
Hi guys;

I'm looking to get back into the sport. Been snowboarding for the last few years :, then, at the end of the season, skied a few days. Man, I still love it!

So, here it goes. Intermediate skier, 6', 200lbs, likes to cruise blues, moderate speed (ok, a bit faster on a good day).

I've decided on Elan Magfire 10s. And I always liked shorter skis.

So, the questions:
1. What do you think about the skis?
2. Would you say 168s are too short? I know the manufacturer says 176... But, like I said. I like them short - goof around, turn easier etc.

Oh, I ski at Sunshine Villge mostly (near Calgary), all over the place. Groomed, sometime between the trees, and a bit out of bounds...
Sounds like we have similar needs, I'm 5'10", 210lbs intermediate level 6+ skier. I've been off skiing seriously for a decade due to a knee injury and am getting back into it this year.

I just ordered a set of Magfire 8 in 168 length from Dawgcatching. They should arrive in another week or so. With the snow dumping in Whistler, I can't wait.

For my height, Elan's ski selector website recommends 168 (but they don't seem to take weight into account?). I've got bad knees and am not a speed freak, so erring shorter rather than longer seemed to be the best approach. They recommend -5 to -15 cm of your height for Magfires. So at 6' (182 cm), a 168cm Magfire is at the low end, but not totally out of whack.

Dawgcatching probably still has some '06 Mag 8's available (in both 168 and 176) for $360. Mag 10's were more expensive and went out of my price range, and the 8 seemed like enough ski for me anyhow. Dawg is probably a good person to provide input on sizing for you as well. He seems to know his gear very well and is very receptive to questions (and his pricing on these skis is likely the best you'll find, so you should be talking to him anyways -- Please excuse the endorsement).
post #3 of 17
Thread Starter 

Thanks

Thanks Klepto!

Another thing would be that the Magfires are kinda the equivalent of the B5s.
I wouldn't ski a B5 in a 176.

Cupolosports has a wicked sale now. I'm not gonna pay shipping in Canada either.
I have dealt with them before, and they're great.
Never bought from Dawg, but knowing myslef, I'm sure I will...

The "worst" thing right now is that I discovered Steep And Cheap... Oh, dear Lord, it's so hard to resist...

Cheers!
post #4 of 17
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Originally Posted by Ro.nin View Post

Another thing would be that the Magfires are kinda the equivalent of the B5s.
I wouldn't ski a B5 in a 176.

Cheers!
The Magfires are similier in shape to the Metron line, but not the beef of the B5. The Magfire aslo does have a different feel than the Metrons, not quite as light and lively feeling but more solid and damp. Not that one is better than the other, jsut different.
post #5 of 17
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
The Magfires are similier in shape to the Metron line, but not the beef of the B5. The Magfire aslo does have a different feel than the Metrons, not quite as light and lively feeling but more solid and damp. Not that one is better than the other, jsut different.
If you just tried to tell me that the Magfires are more suitable for lazy ski bums, I totally hit the jackpot!

Short and lazy - not among my all-time favourite adjectives, but when it comes to skiing, I'll take them.

I'm in it for the chicks anyway. :


(k honey, you know I was kidding about that one, right?)
post #6 of 17
I've logged some signifigant time on Magfire 10's last season in New England. I weigh in at 170, and I ski the 168 length. Works nicely for me, but I think I am bumping up against the speed / weight limit of the ski. If you're planning on logging time off-piste (and it sounds like you are), then I'd seriously consider bumping up a length at your weight. Trust me, the sidecut is so deep that "nimbleness" will not be a problem.
post #7 of 17
Thread Starter 

Thanks

Thanks Kevin!

Any thoughts on the 12s? I understand it's a completely different ski.

If you were to chose something else in the Elan family, to complement the 10s, which one would it be?
(I like Elans...)

Say, use the 10s for groomers (70%) and get something longer, wider for powder?

Lemme know what you think.
post #8 of 17
777 or 999. Next season 888.
post #9 of 17
Thread Starter 

M02s?

Thanks for the adivce guys!

Jsut a short update: skied the Magfires this weekend. Man, it's a totally new sport! I love them.

I've got the 168s and they are a blast. I'm probably not gonna be the fastest on the runs, but they are sooo playful.

I kinda started looking for a twin-tip now - something longer, wider, for the pow days.

Anyone have any good words on the M02s?
Also, me liking shorter skis, would the 175cm be too short?

Cheers!
post #10 of 17
I've got the MO2. I haven't logged enough time to really give you a full run down on them yet (and they had a screwed up tune).

Anyhow, the 175cm MO2 will have about 5cm less contact length than your 168cm Mag 10 (believe it or not). They're also not very wide by modern standards (in fact I consider them down right skinny). They're only 3mm wider than your Mag 10s so I wouldn't really consider them as a deep snow ski.

I would instead direct you to the M999 (99mm) or the MO2.2 (91mm) if you're staying in the Elan camp. You might also consider the M777 (85mm - actual width) if you think those are too wide for you.
post #11 of 17
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Originally Posted by Ro.nin View Post
Thanks Kevin!

Any thoughts on the 12s? I understand it's a completely different ski.

If you were to chose something else in the Elan family, to complement the 10s, which one would it be?
(I like Elans...)

Say, use the 10s for groomers (70%) and get something longer, wider for powder?
Sorry, I didn't see this until today. I tend to like Elan's too, but I'm also not a fan of wider-waisted skis. Wide waists are of no benefit for what I see 95% of the time (East coast hardpack). I never checked out the Magfire 12, because the reviews I saw indicated that it was a much different ski then the Magfire 10.

As Noodler said, I'd look at the 777 or 999, just based off the review's I've seen.
post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by Noodler View Post
I've got the MO2. I haven't logged enough time to really give you a full run down on them yet (and they had a screwed up tune).

Anyhow, the 175cm MO2 will have about 5cm less contact length than your 168cm Mag 10 (believe it or not). They're also not very wide by modern standards (in fact I consider them down right skinny). They're only 3mm wider than your Mag 10s so I wouldn't really consider them as a deep snow ski.

I would instead direct you to the M999 (99mm) or the MO2.2 (91mm) if you're staying in the Elan camp. You might also consider the M777 (85mm - actual width) if you think those are too wide for you.
Exactly what I was looking for! Thanks Noodler.
post #13 of 17
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Originally Posted by Noodler View Post
I've got the MO2. I haven't logged enough time to really give you a full run down on them yet (and they had a screwed up tune).
Out of curiosity, which mount point did you choose?
post #14 of 17
comprex - I did all the BoF calculations and found that I was almost precisely on the "Ride" mark (which didn't surprise me at all since I pretty much always end up on Elan's manufacturer midsole mark when I check the BoF position). The "Pipe" mark is 20mm further forward and the "Rail" mark is even another 20mm ahead of the "Pipe" mark. Those would be very "interesting" positions for all-mountain riding for me. :

The "Ride" position felt very good for the limited time I was on them. I should get them back tomorrow and hopefully I'll have a chance to reset the base bevel and get them back on snow this weekend.
post #15 of 17
I hear a lot about the Mag 10s and the Mag 12s. What one do you think would be a better ride for a skier like me (see below)?

Male - 5'11", 155lbs, Advanced skier, 60% off piste / 40% on piste. I live in Alaska and pretty much have only one resort and TONs of Backcountry.

Thanks!
post #16 of 17

Magfire 10s

Great forum! I’m a huge fan of the Magfire 10s, and just bought a pair this past weekend. I’m 6 foot 1 (200lbs), and an intermediate beginner that can comfortably get down most blues or blacks at Taos (1 visit), but spend more time in the east. I decided on the 168 since I’m not really a speed guy. I can’t say enough good things about this ski, light and relatively stiff, and a great carver. I really haven’t had problems with these at high speeds, and unless that’s your thing, I would stick with the 10s, although the 12s probably are an unbelievable ski also.
post #17 of 17
snowride, they are both good skis. With the 2008 models, there is a pretty significant width difference. If you are an advanced skier, I would go with the 12. Go nose height for on-piste fun, or head-height for all-around capability.

Despite their billing, I consider the Mags to be more of a on-piste ski because of the stout construction and weight. If you are really into off-piste, also look at the Elan 888 and the Fischer Watea 84/94.
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