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post #31 of 43
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Originally Posted by RicB View Post
Zion or Bushwackin, can you help him with a location?
Snowbird has a beacon park.
post #32 of 43
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Sounds familiar....

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=707937

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"Anytime you're in the mountains, you should have a beacon," said Dassing, who contends they should be used even inside ski resorts after a big snowfall. "It's about $200 -- twice the price of a good helmet."

Dassing argues that beacons should be turned on even for the drive up Little Cottonwood Canyon, one of the country's most avalanche-prone roads.
post #33 of 43
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Originally Posted by Bob Lee View Post
If you're truly only interested in your own rescue and you're skiing in LCC, then I'd say just get a Recco reflector to wear. Both Snowbird and Alta use the Recco system for searching after avys.
I don't know if it is any different in the USA, where the areas people ski are generally smaller, but in Europe Recco receivers normally come with the helicopter help which is likely to take at half an hour or more to arrive. Consequently, in most cases, it is great at finding your corpse.

Your best chance to survive is to be dug out in the first 15 minutes, which means to be dug out by your friends who are already there. Any outside help will always take time to arrive.
post #34 of 43
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Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
I don't know if it is any different in the USA, where the areas people ski are generally smaller, but in Europe Recco receivers normally come with the helicopter help which is likely to take at half an hour or more to arrive. Consequently, in most cases, it is great at finding your corpse.
In the area that the OP was discussing, the Recco system is employed by the ski area and goes into use on-scene as soon as the avy is reported. And in the US we don't have the wide-spread off-resort use by lift skiers that there is in Europe. Hell, we don't even have anything like the highly organized helicopter rescue sstem that you mention.

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Your best chance to survive is to be dug out in the first 15 minutes, which means to be dug out by your friends who are already there. Any outside help will always take time to arrive.
Absolutely, but the OP didn't mention having ski partners along that would have beacons and probes and shovels - in fact, I got quite the opposite impression.
post #35 of 43
The X1 is an easy to use unit but it does not have the range of the M2. The full digital X1 has an effective range of about 40 meters. The digital/analog M2 has a range of about 80 meters.
post #36 of 43
I wouldn't recommend buying a beacon if you solely ski inbounds. RECCO is a good choice for inbounds skiers at a resort that uses RECCO.

If you go into the BC, get a beacon. You can then wear the beacon inbounds too (you already have it... why not). RECCO is an only an extra option for BC... mostly a recovery tool.
post #37 of 43
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Originally Posted by Summit View Post
I wouldn't recommend buying a beacon if you solely ski inbounds. .
In bounds where? Vermont? no Colorado? Maybe. Canadian Rockies? Yes
La Grave? Absolutely!
post #38 of 43
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Originally Posted by newfydog View Post
In bounds where? Vermont? no Colorado? Maybe. Canadian Rockies? Yes
La Grave? Absolutely!
The OP was writing about skiing in Little Cottonwood Canyon.
post #39 of 43
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Originally Posted by newfydog View Post
In bounds where? Vermont? no Colorado? Maybe. Canadian Rockies? Yes
La Grave? Absolutely!
Couple things:
1. What - avalanches don't happen in Vermont? People have been buried by avalanches in Michigan.
2. There is no "in bounds" at La Grave.

Lonnie - if you have no intention to go bc, buy a $15 RECCO reflector instead. Alta and Snowbird both use RECCO.
post #40 of 43
RECCO is a good thing. Reflectors are so cheap, why not get one as extra safety? Just realize its limitations. It is no substitute for a beacon.

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Originally Posted by newfydog View Post
In bounds where? Vermont? no Colorado? Maybe. Canadian Rockies? Yes
La Grave? Absolutely!
I was speaking to a skier skiing solely inbounds in the US. A purely inbounds skier doesn't need to drop $300 on a beacon.

Do I wear mine just about every day that I am inbounds? Yes.
Is that why I purchased my beacon? No.
post #41 of 43
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Originally Posted by Jer View Post
Couple things:
1. What - avalanches don't happen in Vermont? People have been buried by avalanches in Michigan.
2. There is no "in bounds" at La Grave.

Lonnie - if you have no intention to go bc, buy a $15 RECCO reflector instead. Alta and Snowbird both use RECCO.

yes every resort in the central wastach has recoo in fact but.....IMO a beacon would still be best cause chance are the first responders are going to have beacons. First responder being patroler and other locals with beacons on them...

RECCO would take much longer to get on the scene and you got about about 15 min to live. In 15 min they would have to call in the avalanche, get the RECCO equiment to the scene, search for the buried victims and then dig them out. Probably not going to happen in htta time period. In those 15 mins while the RECCO is getting setup ,especially in LCC thier are probably dozens if not hundreds of people with a beacons and at least basic skills to use them. My money is one the beacon.
post #42 of 43
If you want to survive an avalanch burial, in-bounds or back country, you need to have a beacon and a budy with a beacon (along with probes and shovels) and know how to use them. Immediate rescue by your own party is the way of live recoveries.

Having others outside of your party being near-by and starting a beacon search in time for a live recovery would be classified as very lucky.

If you survived the time it took to get a Reeco receiver on-scene and then get found alive, this would have to be classified under 'miracle' in my book.
post #43 of 43
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Originally Posted by skierhj View Post
The X1 is an easy to use unit but it does not have the range of the M2. The full digital X1 has an effective range of about 40 meters. The digital/analog M2 has a range of about 80 meters.
The D3 is digital throughout the entire search; by contrast, X1 is a digital-analog hybrid that starts out in analog then automatically switches over to digital when the signal strength increases.
Therefore, the X1 range is essentially the same as the M2.
My own range tests will be conducted soon (once I finish recovering from this Wilderness EMT course and finish preparing for my upcoming ski patrol advanced mtn travel/rescue course and AIARE instructor training course, ugh!), but for the moment, here's someone else's:
http://www.beaconreviews.com/transce...estResults.htm
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