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Line Prophet 80?!!

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
I work at a ski shop in SE Pa, and for the first year, were carrying line skis. A bunch of ppl went to demo at the end of last season, but i didnt get much feedback on the prophet 80's, as the 90's have been so popular. Were only carrying the chronic's and invaders. I am about to order the Prophet's-im looking for a mountain ripper thats not afraid of the park. I do mostly east coast so im not looking at the 90 or 100.

So the question is...does anyone have and time on the 80's. likes? dislikes? and most importantly, do they hold an edge at speed?!

thanks for any feedback. stats and mag reviews only go so far.
post #2 of 21
I demoed the Line Prophet 80 last season for 2 days on packed Sierra conditions (at least a week past storm).

I enjoyed them. Nimble, quick, very much similar to the K2 Apache Recon, in my opinion. They held up pretty good on firm hardpack (didnt' have full-blown ice conditions, but it was hardpack) and they were quick and agile in normal cut up semi-soft snow and on the groomers. I was able to open them up pretty well and they were suprisingly turny.

One of the days I demoed them I was riding with two boarders who stay mostly on-piste, so I never took them into the chop or leftover powder, so I can't say how they handle that (perhaps the reason why the new 90 is popular...I don't think they had the 90 last season, only the 80 and 100 and 130, if i'm correct).

The only thing i heard negative about the skis is that they had some either edge or delam problems early on (most of the shipments from last season didn't get into the shops until late Dec/early Jan).

I almost plunked down on a pair, but once I found out they were made in China, I began searching for European options (ended up with the Karma, which isn't quite as nimble as the Line, but it's also stiffer and a bit wider. I also ended up with an AK No Ka Oi and a Blizzard Titan 8, both of which are 78 and 80 in the waist, respectively and both are also considerably stiffer than the Prophet).

Overall, though, I enjoyed the ski and almost bought a pair over the summer, but found the Blizzards for cheaper.

The only caveat I'll ad is that I wouldn't consider the Prophet 80 to be a park ski. Even Line lists it on their Big Mountain section on their site. I don't recall it being terribly twin tipped, either (more like a Mantra in that the tip is raised and rounded, but more in-between a standard square tail and a true twin).
post #3 of 21
Thread Starter 
thanks for the reply...I almost got the Karma's too but they're a little wide for my taste and 2 other ppl from our shop got them. and you're right, the 90's are new for this year. btw, What size did you ski them in?? I was thinkin id go 166, cause i ski the crossfire in 167, but im worried they wont be as stable.
post #4 of 21
I took out the 80's, 100's, and Chronic Blend (similar to the 90) the other day, I liked, especially the 100. However, with all that said, I would think that the Chronic Blend would be the best "not afraid of the park", it was a lot more lively than the Prophets, and skied very well, but you could feel the extra rebound and a bit more "lively" performance.
post #5 of 21
Shea-B:

I believe I rode a 176/177 (whichever size it is that Line has...I forgot, but it definitley wasn't longer than 179).
post #6 of 21
Shea-bird:

I actually just received my Prophet 80s the other day. I am also on the east coast, ski the whole mountain, and make a trip or two out west every season. Because of where I am, the ability to demo is very limited, so I was essentially making the purchase based on price and research. At this point, I am definitely happy with my purchase...the construction, flex, etc all are satisfactory. I have heard some issues with delam and edge problems (mentioned in another post), but I think most of this has been addressed. If you are not in a hurry to purchase, I will be happy to post some more thoughts once we get some resorts open 'round here (next week or two). Also, based on my discussions with a few ski shops, this years 80 is the exact same mold as last years with new graphics...I picked up the 06 for $230, which is tough to beat.
post #7 of 21
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Originally Posted by Mike Aswell View Post
...I picked up the 06 for $230, which is tough to beat.
Just curious, is that the red one? I'm trying to figure out which year they consider what is on the market now (red 80's yellow 100's).
post #8 of 21
Manus: it's actually the green one...from what I could tell through the process, the green is essentially the 05/06 and the red is the 06/07.

From my discussions with various shops though, the only difference b/w the two is the graphics. Same mold, etc.

The only other difference is that the 05/06 is drilled for the Line bindings, which I did not mount...that really doesn't present an issue, though (I hope) as I had Look bindings mounted and had no problems. I suppose it is not ideal to have inserts drilled in your skis, but I am told it's not a concern.

I actually was asking you for some clarification on your review of the Prophet 80s cause I was having buyers remorse and needed convinced that it was a good way to go...like I said, at $230 (evogear), its tough to beat irregardless.
post #9 of 21
Mike, check my reviews here: http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=47159

I demoed the 80, 100 and Chronic Blend at Loveland. The reason I was wondering about the year was because I was told pro-stock was out, and that there may be some 07's available soon (didn't know if it was the red 80's and yellow 100's or the next years Prophet's)
post #10 of 21
Also, Mike, there may be some slight differences between the green ones (I know the ones you are refering to) and the red ones, as the 130 changed dimensions a little, I believe - the green ones were 150, 130, 140, but were slightly increased tip and tail for the current year)
post #11 of 21
The 07 would definitely be the red bamboo-esque Prophet 80. (White 90, Yellow 100)

Thanks for the reviews.

Mike
post #12 of 21

Prophet series

All of these skis are good, and I USED to live on the East Coast...Now I live in Denver. The Prophet 80 is still too narrow in my opinion, the 90 or Chronic Blend would be a better ski for everything, including park. But, the 80 is almost the same ski as the Assassin MTX Pro from a couple of years ago. Either way, you have a good ski there. I ski the Prophet 100 in 186, and the Prophet 130 on DEEP days...good choice either way...Line will maintain it's identity even though K2 bought them, no worries!
post #13 of 21
Thread Starter 
yeah good old canadian company, bought by an american powerhouse. who dosnt K2 own anymore, its kinda ridiculous. Anyway, im gonna order the 80's. I just hope they keep up with me if i wanna lay out some gs turns. for everything else they seem great. i should be gettin up to vermont with-in the next two weeks so i'll try and get a review as soon as possible.
post #14 of 21
Sorry to be reviving a 3-year-dead thread, but I was wondering if anyone knew where I could still get a pair of the Prophet 80s?  You guys seem to know the best places to look based off the prices I'm seeing you get (not just in this thread), so any wisdom you could pass on would be great.

EBay, Amazon and Google are all coming up blank for me, unless I import an 05 model from the UK.

Also, at 6' 2", I think I'll need the 176cm... of course, that's if there are any left anywhere.

Thanks for any help!
post #15 of 21
I have a pair I've rarely used cause I had the Pocket Rocket at the time and then bought the 100s the year after.  Thus, leaving them a small dark place in my quiver.  I recently took them out to Breck on Sunday, and felt like they performed better than ever before (only have like 8-10 days on them).  I might be reluctant to sell them cause they held a better edge on ice and hard pack than my 100s. Btw- marker 12.0 bindings.  What do you think?
post #16 of 21
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Originally Posted by myingling View Post

Sorry to be reviving a 3-year-dead thread, but I was wondering if anyone knew where I could still get a pair of the Prophet 80s?  You guys seem to know the best places to look based off the prices I'm seeing you get (not just in this thread), so any wisdom you could pass on would be great.

EBay, Amazon and Google are all coming up blank for me, unless I import an 05 model from the UK.

Also, at 6' 2", I think I'll need the 176cm... of course, that's if there are any left anywhere.

Thanks for any help!
 

Sorry, pretty new on this site. 

I have a pair I've rarely used cause I had the Pocket Rocket at the time and then bought the 100s the year after.  Thus, leaving them a small dark place in my quiver.  I recently took them out to Breck on Sunday, and felt like they performed better than ever before (only have like 8-10 days on them).  I might be reluctant to sell them cause they held a better edge on ice and hard pack than my 100s. Btw- marker 12.0 bindings.  What do you think?
post #17 of 21
 Heh, an old thread actually started by an employee at my shop. Too funny. 
post #18 of 21
 aspen east in killington vt.- found em online
 they are $ 299
 good luck
post #19 of 21
 phil,
 are they as good as the 90's?
post #20 of 21
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Originally Posted by chrisandy View Post

 phil,
 are they as good as the 90's?

Haven't skied them. But 300 buys you a newer ski though. 
 
post #21 of 21
 just asking cause i love the 90's... looking for a ski a tad more friendly in the bumps and trees.

although, i made the mistake of demoing the mx 88's....OMG.... okemo was windblown and icy;
the kastles could care less. when we got lower into softer snow they morphed to the condition.
the mx 88's are the best ski i've ever skied....... even side slipped frozen bumps on the plunge,
never bothered the 88's....

i demoed the 78's and obviously they were tuned poorly or not  tuned at all. so my expectations were low.
if the tail was a touch more rounded, the 88 would be the quintessential one-ski-quiver.
i know what i want for christmas.........
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