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My new 1 ski quiver: Rossignol B-Squad

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
So my first time reviewing gear here. I dont really know what I am doing so Ill just follow the form put forward in other reviews.

Skier:
Age:16
Height:6'3''
Weight:170-175lbs
Ability:IDK what all these numbers mean I am 3+ on the binding scale if thats it. But thats just style as for ablity i'd say I am good, Advanced/Expert.
Experience: 13 years

Gear:
Skis: Rossignol B-SQUAD 189 (130-104-117 34.9m Radius)
Bindings: Tyrolia Mojo 15 (Din @ 11 when I skied them) Flat (no plate/riser)
Tune: Factory
Boots: Some reasonably stiff head ones that fit well. Dosent really affect the review.

Conditions: Well thanks to a ton of early season snow followed by a nice rain. There was a 28" base (trees and some brush showing, no rock) covered with a ~2cm thick Icy rain crust.

When I went out in the morning I took my 183 4frnts STL's out because they had a bit of use and abuse on them from the park and I didnt want to risk my brand new squads unless I was satisfied with the coverage. First run I railed down the top groomed part and an icey chute and hit the park. The second run when I tried to go off the groomed runs, the chute was steep and had different aspect and conditions, I instantly fell on my side and started to slide. I had not anticipated how icy it was and did not put enough of an edge on. When I tried to stand up a punched through the crust (only under foot, not the whole ski) and so I decided to just straightline the rest of the ungroomed part as turning was pretty much a gurenteed crash. I headed in and grabed the squads, the STL's never came out again. The squads are seriously the best ski ever. I had read a couple of review which kinda scared me about the ski considering my weight and all I was worried that it would be too much ski for me. I was wrong. These skis killed the groomers they did not skid at all, now I have never skied a race ski but I cant really imagine they have much more edge grip than this. The only thing I noticed on the groomers was they dont like going slow, due to their stiffness, width and lack of sidecut they are hard to put on edge unless you have some good speed. That being said it is not hard to slow down at all, after you come down a run at mach 3000 and the ski patrol is having a sizure watching you and are waving madly to get you to slow down all you have to do is make one turn and apply not very much effort and the ski will stop, no skidding or anything just stop. Combined with thier stiffness and love for speed these are a wonderfull ski to handle. I would be very comfortable throwing them sideways in a steep chute with out worring about loosing an edge on ice. So incredibly impressed with these skis on piste, I took them over to the off groomed that had previously handed me a nice butt kicking. These skis were like heaven on my feet I was the only person not falling down the non groomed runs all day. They were fat enough that they didnt usually break through the crust and they were stiff enough that they didnt care if they did. These things could plow through solid crust like it was pow. They were amazing when they were on the crust the Ice didnt bother me at all cause the held such an amazing edge. Also one of my favorite parts of the ski is that the tip has a very nice gentle ramp which allows it to take instride, the inconsitancys that it cant demolish (mougls, creek beds, etc). This really became apperant when I was speeding down this run and I noticed that the snow infront of me abrubtly dipped down and then back up, I was sure that I was going to plow straight into the up part and get killed. I was pleasantly supprised when the ski just gently glided up over them and I continued down the run. Unfortunatly there was now powder too be found but with 104mm underfoot and 130mm shovel it is obvious that these would rock in pow.

Final Verdict: Amazing skis, will go anywhere is going to be my only ski for everything other than park and potentially teaching (might work as a ski instructor this year). I recomend the 189's to any advanced skier at around my weight. At 190+lbs I would probably go for the 194's, I cant comment on the smaller sizes because they are supposed to be much softer and way way turnier than these (19.3, 22.1, 25.1m radiuses for the 164,174,184 respectivly). Best purchase of my life.

Oh ya these skis really do teach quality over quantity, ie 10 turns at 60mph is much better than 60 turns at 10 mph. As I said it was my first review hoped you guys thought it was okay, sorry if it was too long. I will be updating when I can ski them in powder. Also I will try to answer any questions about the skis as best I can.

Before Skiing them:



Next to me but my comp camera sucks and cant get my head or the whole skis but gives some Idea of width

post #2 of 10
Great first review!!
post #3 of 10
Review = good stuff. Definitely wouldn't recommend these for teaching since they need speed to work for you.

Pictures = WTF? They bring nothing to the review unless we start talking about that sweet kitchen...
post #4 of 10
How are these in tight quarters and in large bumps?
post #5 of 10
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by VASKI244 View Post
Review = good stuff. Definitely wouldn't recommend these for teaching since they need speed to work for you.

Pictures = WTF? They bring nothing to the review unless we start talking about that sweet kitchen...

Ya I know but I felt I had to post at least one pic of the ski just to remind people what they were and although I would have prefered an action pic with them, I got nothing. I also thought about editing them out but I forgot the edit window on epic oh well I guess they stay then.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rio View Post
How are these in tight quarters and in large bumps?
I got to ski them a bit in tight places like trees and chutes and they are okay obviously not your first choice for really tight tree ski but they'll do fine especialy since they brake so well you can avoid big collisions with trees. In chutes you could jump turn if it was steep enough and they would do excellent at that if its not that steep then why bother turning anyways?. As for bumps I did not get to try them there but the seem kinda like the anti bumb ski. too long too wide and too stiff however saying that I also strongly feel that these are go anywhere do anything skis and I think they could easily handle a bump run just dont expect a zipper line. but seeing as i didnt actually ski bumps they could rock them or they could suck them Ill post back up next time I ski them.
post #6 of 10
Man....I got gypped. The pair I tested didn't have brakes.

Needed 'em too.......................:

SJ
post #7 of 10
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Originally Posted by PhilT View Post
So my first time reviewing gear here.
...Oh ya these skis really do teach quality over quantity, ie 10 turns at 60mph is much better than 60 turns at 10 mph.
Thats a classic .

Michael
post #8 of 10

176 Squad

How much softer, I'm thinking of trading in a 185 B4 for 176 squad.
post #9 of 10
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pjw3 View Post
How much softer, I'm thinking of trading in a 185 B4 for 176 squad.
I dont know how much softer I have only skied the one length. However from my not so scientific hand flex, it would seem that the shorter length b4 is comprable to a legend 8800 or so, quite a bit softer than the 189's.
post #10 of 10
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Originally Posted by pjw3 View Post
How much softer, I'm thinking of trading in a 185 B4 for 176 squad.
Thw 174 Squad is stiffer than any other fattish ski on my wall except the 186/194 LP and of course, the longer Squads.

SJ
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