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post #1 of 28
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Finally pulled the trigger on a 2007 Mitsubishi Outlander XLS 4WD just like in the picture. I had a "hell raising" ride going up to Copper this past Wednesday in my old Grand Am GT and decided I wasn't doing that again.
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post #2 of 28
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The rear shot isn't too shabby either...
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post #3 of 28
Nice addition to the quiver, but don't you think you've got too much overlap now?
post #4 of 28
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And it'll never be that clean again...
post #5 of 28
Nice looking wheels !
post #6 of 28
Hey, so how do you like it so far? I think the split rear gate would be great for skiing. When I shop for vehicles with skiing in mind, it always comes down to which ones are better for gearing up at the car, tailgate lunches, etc... I like the configuration of the Outlander.
post #7 of 28
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Well ssh, Faisasy, and I "christened" the Outlander yesterday. Even though I purchased the car there were still a lot of questions in my head about how well it would perform getting to the ski areas. You see Denver itself isn't exceptionally "mountainess" and the dealers generally aren't going to let you take a demo ride up into the mountains west of Denver. Thus I really didn't know how well the engine would perform.

I'm happy to say that I was pleasantly surprised. It definitely held its own and could charge up the highway as well as my old Grand Am GT. It's nothing like Faisasy's bimmer, but it wasn't a slouch either. The shift points seem to be right on target and it wasn't continually down-shifting and searching for the right gear (which I had seen one reviewer state).

The parking lot at Loveland was extremely icy with some large irregular "holes" and "valleys". We hit a spot where I'm sure my old GT would have been stuck - I quickly put the Outlander into 4WD auto mode and we didn't have any problem getting through it. I'm sure there will be many times this season that will give me a chance to really test the 4WD system in it.

My backseat passengers (ssh and Faisasy both took a turn) seemed to think the ride was very good from the back seat. ssh isn't a short guy and he seemed to have plenty of room. The "middle" seats in the Outlander slide rearward 3" to allow for more leg room or the other way for more cargo room - a nice feature. My XLS version also has a 2 kid "jump" seat that pops out of the floor in the back - great for kids, not adults.

I think the mileage was fairly good, but I haven't been tracking it manually yet (still on the original first tank). It has an instantaneous readout that seemed to indicate over 20mpg for the trip. I'll pass along more info on this later when I'm sure of what I'm getting.

One of the reasons I preferred this "compact" SUV (although ssh and Faisasy were surprised it's considered "compact") is that the roof line isn't too high to get skis easily in and out of the ski rack. The split tailgate is cool, but we didn't get a chance to party this past trip. I'm sure it will get its fair share of duty as the season moves on.

Feature-wise it's easily on-par with the Acura RDX Turbo and above the Mazda CX-7. If you get it loaded the techno gadgets available will have you studying the manuals for weeks. The manuals for this thing are a solid 2" stack. I love the satellite radio, music server, HDD-based nav, DVD player, cell phone bluetooth integration, and keyless FAST-key system.

I've ordered the "protection package" for it, but I'm still waiting for the parts to come in. This includes stainless steel scuff plates for all of the door sills and rear bumper guard, mudguards for all 4 wheels, and wheel locks. I also had a clear bra installed on it since we have lots of flying rocks in Colorado.

So far so good (knock on wood). I'm not feeling any "buyer's remorse" at this point.
post #8 of 28
Damn, I missed these on SAC.
post #9 of 28
The Outlander is a great vehicle for this kind of travel and the use we put it to yesterday. I don't know if Noodler is going to get a box for the top or not, but he might want to do that for skis. The gadgets were pretty astounding, and Faisasy and Noodler spent the return trip playing with it. It did make me a little nervous when Noodler was navigating the touch screen! :

The 3D map of the GPS satellites to which the car was listening was pretty trick... but of no practical use that I could imagine.

The tailgate was a great, creative thought, and it was very comfortable for passengers both front (with ski boots in front of the heater) and back.
post #10 of 28
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OK - since Steve brought it up - should I go with a box or a standard ski rack? I've always just had ski racks on previous cars (except my GT). I should probably just go search on this since I'm sure this has been discussed countless times.
post #11 of 28
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OK - since Steve brought it up - should I go with a box or a standard ski rack? I've always just had ski racks on previous cars (except my GT). I should probably just go search on this since I'm sure this has been discussed countless times.
Box, no ifs ands or buts.
post #12 of 28
Definitely a box.

Just curious, Noodler... did you look at the Subaru?
post #13 of 28
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OK - Box it is. Which one is the best bang for the buck?

I looked at the Subie Tribeca. It's a great car with a good engine, tremendous AWD system, and nice features. I just couldn't get past the styling though - I don't like the "nose" on the Tribeca. My favorite styling was either the CX-7 or the new MDX (which was too pricey). It took some time for the Outlander's styling to grow on me. I still think the CX-7 is a better looking vehicle. The other Subies were smaller than what I was looking for.
post #14 of 28
Re: the box, it depends on how many pair you need to stuff in there, if you want to stuff in other stuff, and how long the longest skis are. Also, do the crossbars on the Outlander move fore and aft? If not, you'll need one of the boxes that can adjust to the appropriate width (the MDX has this issue).
post #15 of 28
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OK - Box it is. Which one is the best bang for the buck?
the bigger Thule box. It is rated for 7 pairs of skis. I have put 6 plus a couple pairs of boots in mine.

I think it rated to handle skis to 210cm or 220cm. My 200cm AK Rockets fit in with plenty of spare room. Plus for going to the airport, my packed ski bag (PMGear Double Trouble) just fits in.

The box is also nice for family road trips. Good place to store backpacks and strollers that will not fit in the back of the wagon with all the bags.


BTW: That is a pretty nice upgrade for a ski vehicle.


Edit: Make sure the box will not cause you a problem with any parking garages you need to use.
post #16 of 28
I had an old Thule Adventurer, I got rid of it because the longest ski I have is a 181, I went for width over length, a Yakima Skybox Pro 16.
post #17 of 28
I'll have to check one out. Been looking at the RDX, which I like except that the gas mileage isn't great and it's more like a hatchback and less like a utility vehicle. Can't really fit skis inside the RDX because the cargo area is about 8" shorter than needed (in contrast, my Outback can handle 185cm skis no problem). I generally put skis in the car for the ride to the mountain, and the wet ones come back home on the roof rack. So I like some interior capability for skis.

I also looked at the 07 CR-V, but that too has a short cargo area and clumsy folding rear seats. But, it has one nice feature I am planning to copy -- a second "deck" in the cargo area. I would like to build one for my Outback, so that I can put skis on the floor and then other gear on the deck. That should help keep me organized on day trips.

Chances are, I will keep my Outback XT through this ski season and see how the refreshed 08 models look next summer. Then revisit the Outback / RDX / Outlander / others for my next ski car. So far, I keep coming back to the Outback every time (on my 3rd in 8 years) but I like seeing what's new with the other brands. The Acura RDX is sure appealing except for the utility issues.

I know what you mean about the Tribeca. I am not a fan of the styling either. That model is being totally revamped for 2008, in response to mediocre sales. The new styling should be a lot easier on the eyes.
post #18 of 28
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skier219 - I really liked the transmission on the RDX Turbo. It was much smoother than the CX-7 (delivered the turbo power without lurching like the CX-7). I couldn't get past the "hatchback" look of the RDX though. It's really not designed like a small SUV (like you said). It just didn't seem like it was a good value for the money AND it's getting hideously bad gas mileage (as is the CX-7). Folding the rear seats was also a joke since you had to do it in a 2 step process (much easier in the CX-7 and the Outlander).

The CR-V was just too underpowered and too small for me.

I really wish I could have waited until the '08 models for the compact SUV market to flesh out a bit more. Unfortunately my old GT should've been replaced last year so there was no more waiting time left.
post #19 of 28
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I'll have to check one out. Been looking at the RDX, which I like except that the gas mileage isn't great and it's more like a hatchback and less like a utility vehicle. Can't really fit skis inside the RDX because the cargo area is about 8" shorter than needed (in contrast, my Outback can handle 185cm skis no problem). I generally put skis in the car for the ride to the mountain, and the wet ones come back home on the roof rack. So I like some interior capability for skis.

I also looked at the 07 CR-V, but that too has a short cargo area and clumsy folding rear seats. But, it has one nice feature I am planning to copy -- a second "deck" in the cargo area. I would like to build one for my Outback, so that I can put skis on the floor and then other gear on the deck. That should help keep me organized on day trips.

Chances are, I will keep my Outback XT through this ski season and see how the refreshed 08 models look next summer. Then revisit the Outback / RDX / Outlander / others for my next ski car. So far, I keep coming back to the Outback every time (on my 3rd in 8 years) but I like seeing what's new with the other brands. The Acura RDX is sure appealing except for the utility issues.

I know what you mean about the Tribeca. I am not a fan of the styling either. That model is being totally revamped for 2008, in response to mediocre sales. The new styling should be a lot easier on the eyes.
All 08 Legacies/Outbacks get revised bumpers and grille inserts. Nothing major. The Tribeca is getting a normalized nose so say goodbye to the flying vag grille. I'm personally waiting for the '08 WRX Wagon here.
post #20 of 28
Yeah, the 08 WRX is going to be sweet. It will be based on the Legacy platform which should give it better road manners and more interior room; I just hope they can keep the weight down. The spy shots I saw over the summer at nasioc.com looked pretty nice.

In addition to the exterior tweaks (which include a new front fender and wheels) the 08 Leg/OB will also get a lightly restyled interior. You can see it now on the 07 models in Europe and Japan. There are supposed to be some nice features, like shifter and audio controls on the steering wheel (right now you can have one or the other but not both), memory seats, etc. I am hoping they deploy VDC stability control and the 5EAT transmission across the model line too -- I think it's shameful that most Subarus still have a 4-spd auto trans and no stability control.
post #21 of 28
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Damn, I missed these on SAC.
Whats SAC?

ok i kid but couldnt resist
post #22 of 28
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Folding the rear seats was also a joke since you had to do it in a 2 step process (much easier in the CX-7 and the Outlander).
That's funny -- I had the same exact complaint about the RDX. Not only does it take two steps, the tumbled seat bottom fills up the rear footwell (which would otherwise be usable cargo space for small items), blocks "reach" access from the front, and eats about 4-6" of cargo length. They could have done better on that for sure. This is an example where I think Acura fell short on utility because they simply did not put a lot of thought into it (at minimum they could have copied another better design). Other areas are the optional roof rack (should be standard, not a $600 accessory) and the hard cargo cover which is right behind your head when you sit on the back bumper (a rollup shade cover would at least get out of the way). I have sort of developed a love-hate relationship with the RDX because of utility issues....

The local Mitsu dealer just got some Outlanders -- time for a look!
post #23 of 28
I don't know why people complain about the Subie Tribeca. It looks fine as long as you're not looking at it from the front or the rear.
post #24 of 28
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I don't know why people complain about the Subie Tribeca. It looks fine as long as you're not looking at it from the front or the rear.
post #25 of 28
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I don't know why people complain about the Subie Tribeca. It looks fine as long as you're not looking at it from the front or the rear.


Of course, I kinda like the way it looks.



But, I grew up in Michigan, so clearly have strange tastes in cars!
post #26 of 28
And I was going to post a picture of my cattracks and the brake retainers I just bought
Oh ,never mind then

Awesome wheels, enjoy.
post #27 of 28
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Yeah, the 08 WRX is going to be sweet. It will be based on the Legacy platform which should give it better road manners and more interior room; I just hope they can keep the weight down. The spy shots I saw over the summer at nasioc.com looked pretty nice.

In addition to the exterior tweaks (which include a new front fender and wheels) the 08 Leg/OB will also get a lightly restyled interior. You can see it now on the 07 models in Europe and Japan. There are supposed to be some nice features, like shifter and audio controls on the steering wheel (right now you can have one or the other but not both), memory seats, etc. I am hoping they deploy VDC stability control and the 5EAT transmission across the model line too -- I think it's shameful that most Subarus still have a 4-spd auto trans and no stability control.

You post on NASIOC too? Nice!
post #28 of 28
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You post on NASIOC too? Nice!
Well, I used to be a regular over there when I had a WRX. After I went from the WRX to the Outback XT, I tapered off quite a bit, but still read the news and rumors forums -- they have some of the best info around.
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