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Need a quick ski opinion (Sale ending this weekend) Powder/crud.

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I'm 38, 5'8 about 220lbs (I know I need to lose weight!). Anyway.. When I was younger I used to ski a lot of K2 Slalom racing skiis (EIS/VO Slalom. I tend to like making quick turns on groomers and moguls, although lately I've been skiing more wide turns (getting lazy as I get older). I also enjoy skiing moguls, although my stamina isn't as good as it used to be. Not sure what my ski level is, although I can pretty much ski anything although I won't go off big jumps/cliffs due to a torn ACL when I was 22.

I ski and snowboard. Usually I ski when the conditions are packed powder and snowboard when its powder/crud. I live in Colorado and ski probably 2 days every week starting in Nov.

The Skiis I've currently been using are Atomic C:11 Puls ti. They are a few years old. I've been thinking about trying some of the newer/fatter skiis that might do well in crud/deeper snow, rather then snowboarding. Maybe a good all-mountain ski or just an additional pair of skiis to go with my other skiis.

I was in Gart Sport in Silverthorne and saw some great deals (it seems like) on last years skiis. Most were in the $400-$600 range but all are 40% off (in addition) this weekend.

For all mountain it looked like they had some Atomic Metron 10 pulsTi, k2 Apache X, Rossignol B2/B3. They also had some K2 Apache Chiefs.

Any recommendations on skis/size? Quick? I need to decide soon. or should I save my money and stick with what I have?
post #2 of 16
184cm B3. Do it.
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Originally Posted by Takecontrol618 View Post
184cm B3. Do it.
I'll second the B-3 If the price is one you can't refuse buy it . It is very nice ski amd fits your choice nicely. I really enjoyed this ski on soft snow. The deeper the better.
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184cm B3. Do it.
Why the B3? I read that it is good in the semi-deep snow and is a good all around ski, except maybe in ice. What about crud? Some people have said that it isn't that good in crud.

The B3 and the Apache Chief seem best when it comes to powder though.. Just wondering if I might be getting a strictly powder ski like the Chief vs. the B3? Or is the B3 good enough, that I shouldn't worry.
post #5 of 16
The B-3 is a light ski and heavy snow is not it's forte but if by crud you mean broken snow it will be fine. Define crud. If you mean refrozen snow that is firm then a heavier ski would serve you better.

Is this the one you are looking at also?http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=29506

If so this would be a better crud ski for refrozen or heavier snow.

In the choppy powder the B-3 was awesome.
post #6 of 16
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I meant thick spring slushy snow. Also...choppy powder after everyone's skiied thru it.
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Originally Posted by GarryZ View Post
I'll second the B-3 If the price is one you can't refuse buy it . It is very nice ski amd fits your choice nicely. I really enjoyed this ski on soft snow. The deeper the better.
Just make sure it is a "05-'06 B3 not an older one. Last years B3 was a big upgrade over the previous model. Last years was orange the previous year mostly white.
post #8 of 16
The B3 is a great crud ski- damp, less sidecut, and wide enough to float when you're in tracked-out powder type crud. Its not really a powder sk, at 83mm, but it'll be better than your Atomics- plus, at 40% off, you're doing better than pro-form prices, almost into the realm of shop-form, assuming of course that the starting rice is the actual retail price and not MSRP.
post #9 of 16
Crud: Heavy, maybe not-so-dry, chopped. Not the same as powder. There are good powder skis, and there are good crud skis. Are there any really good at both?
post #10 of 16
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Anyone have an opinion on the Apache Chief?
post #11 of 16
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Crud: Heavy, maybe not-so-dry, chopped. Not the same as powder. There are good powder skis, and there are good crud skis. Are there any really good at both?
Yeah but then they aren't so good on hard surfaces. I think you can pick for hard/crud or crud /powder but not hard/powder
post #12 of 16
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I guess I'm really looking for Powder (1st), Crud (2nd), other stuff would be nice (3rd).. or else I'll use my existing skiis for the "other stuff" and just get something that does #1 and #2..


Then I just have to convince my wife that this is my Christmas present (early).
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Anyone have an opinion on the Apache Chief?
Use the search tool , my friend. It works magnificantly
post #14 of 16
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Ok.. so I went back today intent on either getting the Apache Chiefs or the B3s. They were sold out of every size except for 160.


I went to a place nearby... though and got some B4 178 $419 and some Axial 2 120 Ti Pro Wides for $119. $540 mounted.

Seems like a pretty good deal. Not sure if they will be too short, but that as the longest they had. My only other option there was a Salomon 1080 Gun, 185 for $399
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I tried doing a search on the B4. Haven't seen really any good reviews. I'm assuming the B4 is like the B3, but better in Powder (wider). I understand that its the same as the old B3.
post #16 of 16
If its any solace I think the Gun would have been to soft for you.
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