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Is tele skiing hard to learn?

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
As opposed to alpine skiing, or going from alpine to tele?
post #2 of 18
Going from alpine to telemark on modern equipment is not that difficult. With hammerhead bindings its even easy on the body.

Its even easier to go from alpine to randonee if BC is you're only goal. Randonee is french for can't tele. [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #3 of 18
It's not hard to learn to tele if you come from a solid alpine background, but it's a lot more tiring -- right Pierre? [img]smile.gif[/img] But don't let that stop you. I tried tele one day just for kicks and had sooo much fun that it was two years before I clicked back into alpine bindings again -- that's two years and maybe a hundred ski days on tele; I only wanted to try it for one day!

(Pierre, so you're on Hammerhead's now, see what I mean about those things?)

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Originally posted by Pierre:
Randonee is french for can't tele. [img]smile.gif[/img]
And "Telemark" is Norwegen for "Hey, wait up guys!"
post #4 of 18
Thats bull AC. I can rip with the rest of the alpiners with the hammerheads. I now know how youz guyz stayed fresh. With the hammerheads and forward mount on the bindings I can rip all day and not feel like I am even on tele skis. The hammerheads made me switch 100% back to telemark midseason.

I can't believe the difference. Man I wish I had known at ESA 1 what I know now.
post #5 of 18
Brokedown Palace, here's some info on getting started...

http://www.epicski.com/cgi-bin/ultim...c;f=8;t=000222

Have fun, there's a reason you see cult-like enthusiasm from tele skiers.
post #6 of 18
Thread Starter 
Thanks, guys!
post #7 of 18
Quote:
Originally posted by Pierre:
Thats bull AC. I can rip with the rest of the alpiners with the hammerheads. I now know how youz guyz stayed fresh. With the hammerheads and forward mount on the bindings I can rip all day and not feel like I am even on tele skis. The hammerheads made me switch 100% back to telemark midseason.

I can't believe the difference. Man I wish I had known at ESA 1 what I know now.
Huh, I've never had the sensation that the HH made the tele turn easier on the body. I've owned several different bindings and none of them has made it easier or more difficult on the body to turn.

Can you elaborate Pierre?
post #8 of 18
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Originally posted by Brokedown Palace:
As opposed to alpine skiing, or going from alpine to tele?
I believe it depends on the skier. Some struggle with balance and technique while others take to it very quickly. One thing for sure... you'll find out very quickly if you do have solid alpine skills. If you do, they'll transfer nicely.
post #9 of 18
Pinhead said:
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Huh, I've never had the sensation that the HH made the tele turn easier on the body. I've owned several different bindings and none of them has made it easier or more difficult on the body to turn.

Can you elaborate Pierre?
When I went to telemarktips.com and reviewed the binding tests I realized that the Linken bindings that I was skiing on had a very high heel return pressure in comparison to the Hammerheads. The Crispi boots have a big rocker and contributed to the problems of putting the rear heel down. Add this to my poor ankle flex that requires a more upright stance and putting pressure on the rear foot was a big effort. Add to that the Atomic 10EX that is hard to drive and you have the makings of a tiring setup. AC skied this setup and switched so he understands.

I have the hammerheads with the pins as far to the rear as possible. I also have a softer ski like Mary was on and the bindings mounted closer to center. The entire setup has reduced fatigue to the point where I haven't skied on alpine gear since January. I kinda fell back to the dark side again. Before yah know it I'll be eatin Ramen noodles and tamada sauce three meals a day. :

Might get out you're way in April if yah got any snow left by then. I would love to rip with you again and no, I would not bring alpine gear.
post #10 of 18
Don't wait too late in April. I think you mean you've gone to the light if you're referring to spending more time on free-heel gear.
post #11 of 18
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Originally posted by Pierre:
I kinda fell back to the dark side again. Before yah know it I'll be eatin Ramen noodles and tamada sauce three meals a day. :
Hey Pierre,

You have a hat with floppy ears and woolen knickers too eh? Its ok - we can all share here. I still have my old karhu xcds somewhere
post #12 of 18
Lets see, I don't have my first pair of Merril Comps that I bought in 79 but I do have the Rossi metal edge double cambered skis somewhere. I still have my trusty Asolo Extreme boots, just converted to plastic about three years ago maybe. Couldn't find a plastic boot to fit. After much work I have finally this year got them to fit right. Need one black ratchet strap for the Asolo Extremes. Lost one somewhere.

Knickers and the floppy hat? I think they are burried in the dresser drawer upstairs. I think the floppy eared hat has a long tassle and long ties. I would have to go check.

I still have a big assortment of skinny skis in the basement that are worth zilch. They run the full gamment of bindings. All the way from Chouinard three pin, voli release, Rottafelas, Riva Z's, Linkens, old nasty pit bulls, Amish leather, you name it.

I converted back to Alpine in 99 because I just couldn't find a plastic boot to fit. With the hammerheads and Crispi boots I have little incentive to alpine.
post #13 of 18
Pierre,

Bring suspenders. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
post #14 of 18
Now Pinhead I will have you know that I went to Tractors Supply and bought two pairs of suspenders and they are standard equipment now. [img]tongue.gif[/img]
post #15 of 18
heh! Chuck Creen will be sad to hear that.
post #16 of 18
Quote:
Originally posted by Pierre:
Thats bull AC. I can rip with the rest of the alpiners with the hammerheads. I now know how youz guyz stayed fresh. With the hammerheads and forward mount on the bindings I can rip all day and not feel like I am even on tele skis. The hammerheads made me switch 100% back to telemark midseason.

I can't believe the difference. Man I wish I had known at ESA 1 what I know now.
Pierre took the junkiest, icey bump runs and bullet proof glades on this set up at the Allegheny Mountains Gathering and beat everybody to the bottom. Those Rossis were like noodles, el dente. They danced around rocks, stumps and death cookies like a hippie at a Dead concert.

Edit: there was 'narey a scratch on them bottoms too.
post #17 of 18
Thread Starter 
Just wond'rin what muscle groups are required for the tele turn. With my disability in mind, my left side being considerably weaker than my right, if I should stay on the light...err dark side or switch to the light.

---Obi Wan
post #18 of 18
When first learning you will use the quads a lot. The muscles that get a workout that don't get anywhere near as much workout in alpine are the tibialas anterior muscles on the shins and the muscles that adduct on the inside of the upper leg. They get stretched.
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