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Twin Tip Bump Skis

post #1 of 18
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I'm looking for a recommendation for a pair of twin tip skis that would be great through the bumps and decently fun on the rest of the mountain. I am 5' 10" and about 225 lbs and am an athletic intermediate/advanced skier. I was thinking about maybe the PEs or the Karmas. Any other suggestions or recommedations?
post #2 of 18
I got the karmas as my ski that I will use in bumps. Hopefully its no too wide. We shall see..
post #3 of 18

I've enjoyed the Karmas in the bumps

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Originally Posted by jtb910 View Post
I'm looking for a recommendation for a pair of twin tip skis that would be great through the bumps and decently fun on the rest of the mountain. I am 5' 10" and about 225 lbs and am an athletic intermediate/advanced skier. I was thinking about maybe the PEs or the Karmas. Any other suggestions or recommedations?

Hi,

Do a search. There are many reviews of the Karmas. I've written several where I talked about my experience using the ski as an "all mountain" ski which included extensive use in powder bumps.

Enjoy,

Michael
post #4 of 18
I've owned Karmas, and there have been other threads about this question. Try 1080 Foils. Or if you seek powder, 1080 Guns. Both are preternaturally good in bumps, trees, rock in pow, just OK on hard groomed. Karmas are far better at carving, ice, stiff crud. But the mission you state is about bumps, and trust me, Karmas are not as smooth and quick in bumps because a) they want to carve and b) they have stiffer shovels/tails. You do not carve a ski this wide in bumps, you pivot it and slide the tail.
post #5 of 18
I own PE's and ski em in the bumps all the time, I don't think they'd be a bad choice, and yes, you can carve em in the bumps. Depending on where you ski though another choice may be the Line Prophet 100, I know it sounds crazy but I just demoed them and I have to admit the surprised the hell out of me. These actually were great in the bumps and would carve em too. However, if you ski eastern bumps (which tend to be deeper and tighter) I would not recomend the Line.
post #6 of 18
See my review on the Nordica Supercharger Ignition. A surprisingly great ski for a surprisingly low amount of money.
post #7 of 18

scott aztec pro

I spent last year skiing the bumps and trees at Mary Jane on the Scott Aztec Pro. A very unknown ski in the US but big in Europe. I was turned onto it at a shop in Winter Park. Demoed it then bought it.

It's got a more center mounted binding than anything I have ever skied which was odd at first but I got used to it.

The tail is raised. Not a true twin tip but close. It's got a tight turning radius @ 14 meters. Similar dimensions to the Rossi B2, which I liked but not as much as the Scott.

Not a great choice for getting out into deep funky snow but for skiing bumps, chutes, trees, whatever I could find on the front side of the Jane...good for me! Very quick turning, responsive yet stable. I go from skiing on the bump run into the trees looking for fresh snow and back out and in again...

I have heard lots of good stuff about the Karmas and would like to try them for their wider waist
post #8 of 18
That Scott Aztec Pro is a nice looking ski too.

astrochimp - which shop in WP has these?
post #9 of 18
Winter Park Sport Shop HAD them. They have ceased to exist. Which is too bad cuz as I have posted they carried skis other shops did not: Fischers and Scotts.

Not sure why they went out of business. The shop goes back to the earliest days, started by one of the founders of WP. Engle?

Oh well.

I have seen the skis for cheap online. They've changed the graphics this year from the strange aztec head to something else.
post #10 of 18
I tryed Karmas yesterday and they were crap in the bumps and on the groom
post #11 of 18
I'll ski the Elan MO2 tomorrow at Jane. I'll chime back in on my thoughts if you're interested. It's stiffer than the Ignition, but not quite as stiff as the Karma. You can find the MO2 ridiculously cheap right now (especially last year's version). I'm hoping it's a "hidden gem" (as I said in my reviews thread).
post #12 of 18
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I tryed Karmas yesterday and they were crap in the bumps and on the groom
What were the conditions? What are your physical specs? What length were you on?
post #13 of 18
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That Scott Aztec Pro is a nice looking ski too.

astrochimp - which shop in WP has these?
$224.99 You can try to find a discount coupon code or something too.

ljm is selling a pair even cheaper in gear swap, he bought them from overstock for even less, so search for that thread and see if he still has them.
post #14 of 18
Twin for bumps = one oh eight oh
post #15 of 18
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Originally Posted by Noodler View Post
I'll ski the Elan MO2 tomorrow at Jane. I'll chime back in on my thoughts if you're interested. It's stiffer than the Ignition, but not quite as stiff as the Karma. You can find the MO2 ridiculously cheap right now (especially last year's version). I'm hoping it's a "hidden gem" (as I said in my reviews thread).
Unfortunately at this point I'm going to have to hold off on a full-on review of the MO2. When I was tuning them I found that they had a large base bevel (much greater than 1 degree) through about 3'-4' of the ski directly underfoot. The tips and tails were fine (right at about 1 degree). After digging a bit on this it looks like Elan purposely tunes the skis this way from the factory since the MO2 "Rail" is targeted towards the Park-n-Pipe crowd.

I'm going to take them into the shop this week for a stone grind to the the bases/edges completely level again and then I'll reset the base bevels and test them again.
post #16 of 18
I clicked the link to Overstock.com to check on the Scott Aztecs. A buyer wrote he bought only 1 ski when assuming he was buying 2. DOH!

Not such a good deal if it's only one ski and not a pair.

It is a great price though for a very good ski IF you get a complete set.

I took mine out last friday the 24th at Winter Park. My shoulder is injured so I left my poles at home. I still love my Aztecs. They skid and carve and do mellow railroad track turns on green runs and do bumps well. Not good on very hard snow and ice. Too much sidecut I think.

Again, for me, skiing the front side of Mary Jane aggressively, which means bumps and trees, these skis work very well. Not a pure bump ski for sure. And not a deep exposed snow ski. But...
post #17 of 18
oh yeah, the Rossi Scratch FS is a very popular bump ski at the Jane.
post #18 of 18
I love my Karmas. Love them in the bumps which honestly surprised me. I ski mostly in the east and well, it's pretty bumpy in these parts. They're amazing on the rest of the mountain too
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