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Fischer RX-8 vs. Salomon Tornado

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
To start I am 23 yrs old, 6'1" 200 lbs and I ski in the northeast 99% of the time. I started looking for ski's by basically looking at the newest offerings from Salomon b/c I've had good luck with them in the past, but I've found it hard to ignore all the positive feedback on the RX-8's. I am a 7-8 level skiier and like to ski hard and fast. The problem is that since I ski hard and fast, by the afternoon I'm usually just getting lazy on my ski's. I feel like the RX-8 will be fun for the morning but I might get a better overall ski with the Tornados. I've read a lot about the rx-8 but don't know much about the tornado, any input?
post #2 of 19
Murree21, welcome to EpicSki! I'm sure you'll get some comments on the Solomons. Unfortunately, I haven't skied them so can't give you a personal comparison.

The Fischers are very lively, though, with a ton of energy and snow feel. If you're used to Solomons, this may translate to "squirrely" or something like that, since the Solomons are usually much more damp. They aren't really nervous, though, just high energy with a lot of feel for the snow. If you don't like that, though, you'll not like the RX-8s.
post #3 of 19
Thread Starter 
What size would you recommend in the rx-8, 170 or 175? Also, does anybody know of a good place to demo ski's in the northeast. I live in mass and would like to demo both these ski's if i could.
post #4 of 19
Murree21, at your size, a 170 for shorter turns and more snap, 175 for a bit longer turns and higher speeds. I would be inclined to recommend the 170 for a very nice compromise between speed and snap for you. But, I know some who liked to ski the RX8 a bit longer.

I've been between 175 and 180 when I was skiing the RX8. The 170 was just the tiniest bit more stable at the very upper end of my speed range (45-50mph) than was the 165 which was my "snappy" version.

Hope this helps... (Sorry... can't help with the demo locations, but others here probably can!)
post #5 of 19
I ski the RX8 in 175. I weigh 225-240lbs. I would guess either length would work. I have no problems snapping off quick short turns with the 175 FWIW.
post #6 of 19
Look for a pair of left overs from last season. I don't think they have changed except for graphics.

edit: You might want to check out the RX9 too, mainly because you can buy a pair of 2006s in 170cm for $499 here http://www.ski-depot.com/miva/mercha...roduct_Count=0
post #7 of 19
The Tornado is one of the best skis that Salomon has made in some years. It is however, wider than really necessary for a NE groomer zoomer and the RX-8 is among the elite skis for that type of skier. The RX-8 is a very turny ski but is fairly forgiving for it's shape and it won't work you as hard as some other skis in similar shapes might. I think you would only choose the Tornado if you were looking for a compromise ski with a bit more soft snow capability.

SJ
post #8 of 19
I think the Tornado, based on its description, is more meant to compete with the AMC 73/76 skis. The AMC's are fine skis. It looks to me like the Salomon Equipe GS Race + Z12 is the package designed to compete with the RX-8. I have never skied the Salomon skis discussed here. I own and ski the RX-8's and AMC 76, and have skied the AMC 79, but have never skied the AMC 73. I suspect you would be happy with any of the skis, after reading their described construction.
post #9 of 19
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Yea, i'm really looking for something to tear apart the icey northeast and not so much the powdery west. Should i really be deciding between the rx8 and rx9? Will the rx9 be a better ski for the bad conditions that i will inevitably see?
post #10 of 19
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Yea, i'm really looking for something to tear apart the icey northeast and not so much the powdery west. Should i really be deciding between the rx8 and rx9? Will the rx9 be a better ski for the bad conditions that i will inevitably see?
IMO........The RX-9 has all the grip of the RX-8 but it is a more relaxing ski to be on all day. Because of the straighter shape, it is not as turny and (again IMO) more forgiving in the shaved off, half melted, half frozen goop that you can get in the Northeast. OTH, the 8 is quicker. It comes down to your temperment.

SJ
post #11 of 19
I wouldn't write off the RX-6 either. It is not as stiff as the RX-9, but has a gentler sidecut than the RX-8 (I own a 2003-4 170and 2004-5 165). They all hold very well on ice. I also own, and have skied the RX-6 (2003-4 175).
post #12 of 19
Thread Starter 
I'm still undecided but i'm thinkin i want the rx8's at 175 not 170. Little more stable at speed, and still as much turn as i'll ever need.
post #13 of 19
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Originally Posted by Murree21 View Post
I'm still undecided but i'm thinkin i want the rx8's at 175 not 170. Little more stable at speed, and still as much turn as i'll ever need.
If you want the real zippy feel of the 8's go short. I like the 165's and I am bigger than you. They can wear you down, but you'll be tired with a really wide grin.
post #14 of 19
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Originally Posted by Murree21 View Post
Yea, i'm really looking for something to tear apart the icey northeast and not so much the powdery west. Should i really be deciding between the rx8 and rx9? Will the rx9 be a better ski for the bad conditions that i will inevitably see?
You should be deciding between the Fischer WC SC and WC RC. 170 is a good length.
post #15 of 19
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Originally Posted by Murree21 View Post
To start I am 23 yrs old, 6'1" 200 lbs and I ski in the northeast 99% of the time...

I am a 7-8 level skiier and like to ski hard and fast...

The problem is that since I ski hard and fast, by the afternoon I'm usually just getting lazy on my ski's...

Given the criteria you outlined I'd choose the RX-8 in 165cm or 170cm if you go with a Fischer ski . I don't personally see the need to go any longer given your height/weight/ and 7/8 ability.

The Fischer RX-8 has excellent edgehold making it a great fit for east coast conditions. It's an SL carver that has pretty much set the standard in its category. It makes great mid-size turns, as well. Plus, it will not beat you up after a full day of skiing.

The RX-9 is more GS like with a 17m radius at 170cm. It is also a great ski with the same snappy feel as the RX-8 and great edgehold. If you want to go that route I'd choose 170cm or 175cm. Resist the temptation to go longer unless you think you need added stability. The RX-9 like the RX-8, pretty much set the standard for its category, as well.

The Fischer RC4 WC RC and Fischer RC4 WC SC are great skis but are more demanding and not really skis to get relaxed on as the day wears on, IMHO. I've never tried the RX-6 but reviews on it have been posted here. It's sort of midway between the RX8 and RX-9 in radius and said to be somewhat more forgiving than its RX-8 and RX-9 siblings.


Sorry, I don't know anything about the Saloman Tornado.
post #16 of 19
Thread Starter 
Seems like nobody knows anything about the Tornado. Just pulled the trigger on some rx8's, 170. Got last years model for 500, cant complain. Thanks everybody for the opinions. I can only get out skiing about 15 times a year, and dont want to be demo'ing for 10 of them.
post #17 of 19
Muree....Does that price include bindings??
post #18 of 19
you can find last year's RX8 on ebay with the railflex2 bindings included for around 415+shipping (ends up being like 435). i picked up a pair a couple weeks ago.
post #19 of 19
I finally got to ski the Tornados today (review coming shortly), and will say that I think you made the right choice. The Tornado is a very nice ski, snappy, arc-y/sparky just like I like 'em. But, when the tach got revvin', they would start to get a little nervous at the tip. The RX8 never did that for me.
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