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post #1 of 28
Thread Starter 
I've just booked a trip to Utah for the week after Christmas...It's my second trip west but first time to Utah. I'm staying at a downtown hotel and want to know if I need to rent a car or is there public/private transporation that can get me to Alta/Snowbird/Brighton/Solitude...those 4 resorts have a combo lift ticket deal that seems to include public transportation. Also, which of these 3 skis would you recommend taking along: Atomic Metron 11, Fischer RX9, or Bandit XX?

Thanks in advance for any tips. (positive comments about the conditions that time of year would be welcomed to offset the pain in my wallet...)
post #2 of 28
Last year we skied snowbird/alta Dec 30th-Jan 7th and I think there was a rediculous amount of new snow. Atleast two days of +12 inches. Great because it was snowing every night and mostly clear during the day.

We will go again this year, same dates.

Cant imagine needing a car. We stay at The Lodge at Snowbird and it is right on the slope. We will be scoping out less expensive off mtn lodging for future trips.

I found this link, there may be others...

http://webpages.charter.net/tcrocker818/011606.htm
post #3 of 28
What are the lenghts on you Metron and Bandit XX. either would work but lenght matter alot in crud.
post #4 of 28
Thread Starter 

utah

Forgot to give lengths...my Metrons are short (162 or 164) but I have experienced a successful a trip to Sunshine/Lake Louis with them last Spring... RX9s and Bandits are 170cm...
post #5 of 28
yes you can take the UTA Lightrail down to midvale and catch the ski buss to the 4 resorts. Yes they do aloow skis/ boards on them.
If you want to gt up to Park City, then either take a shuttle bus, or rent a car.
Take the Bandits, a great all terrain ski. Still ski on mine, and they are 5 years old.
post #6 of 28
Thread Starter 

thanks weogio!

Small world! The link you gave me was from a site that gave me the info I needed to book the trip in the first place...the link below lists info about early and late season conditions in N. America...

http://webpages.charter.net/tcrocker818/fam_ski.htm
post #7 of 28
I would take the Bandits. FOr reference though the average ski you going to see is going to be upper 170s and about 90 mm waist We like our skis long and fat in LCC and BCC.
post #8 of 28

What a difference a few years makes...

Quote: "For reference though the average ski you going to see is going to be upper 170s and about 90 mm waist We like our skis long and fat in LCC and BCC."

Now upper 170s are long!
post #9 of 28
for transportation, search online for uta bus. it'll show the schedules. it does go to alta/snowbird, not sure about solitude/brighton daily. it seems to be only daily transportation. resorts dont seem to have shuttle from the city.
also, note that you have to catch the bus by 8am or you missed it for the day and last bus leaves the mountain around 5. i'd suggest renting a car. its worth the additional freedom it will give you, IMO.
post #10 of 28
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Originally Posted by philipshaw View Post
Quote: "For reference though the average ski you going to see is going to be upper 170s and about 90 mm waist We like our skis long and fat in LCC and BCC."

Now upper 170s are long!
not at all, I just got 190s and ski on 183s everyday. To normaller people upper 170s are long
post #11 of 28

Rent

a car...

It's really nice to be able to drive up to wherever you want to go, leave when you want, shop around resort towns and eat after skiing, catch a movie in the city, and stop at Einsteins bagels near the entrace to the two canyons. Food for skiing!

Oh, I second the longer skis. I weigh 160ish, and I love the M10 in the 164 out there, but I always wished for fatter/longer. This year I'm skiing the Snoops in a 174/88. Enjoy!
post #12 of 28
You might want to ask your hotel if they are on the bus route. Yes LCC and BCC do offer a nice deal that includes bus transportation (at least it has in past years). We go to SLC often and have always rented a car. By the time we pay for a shuttle to the hotel from the Airport, a car seemed like the way to go. If they close the roads to the canyons, Snowbasin or Park City are accessable options without driving on steep mtn roads.
Hope you have a good time and lots of snow.
post #13 of 28
I think one of the advantages of staying in SLC is to use the public transportation. The bus is good and it's even fun to ride with the other skiers. You do not need a car to get to the mountains, take the bus.
post #14 of 28
You'll have a blast- they got hammered at that time last year. You should be fine taking the public transportation if going to BCC and LCC.
post #15 of 28

Light rail to catch the bus

I doubt it's any different than pre 2002 ( olympics) and I stayed at possibly the ramada, nice pool and early breakfasts. It was a couple of blocks to the light rail and that took you to a station that was for the bus transfer round trip was about $5.00 and for any of the four resorts mentioned in little or big cottonwood canyons. If it's part of the package it is a good deal. My motel offered airport shuttles and I managed that for a couple of days until I embarked on the remainder of trip which include big sky and Las Vegas ski and Snowboard, the motel shuttle even took me to the rental car. I know gas was expensive at $1.25 or so in Nevada then. The car was new so the odometer ran up to 2600 or thereabouts. Please note some times I wish I had something better than a sedan like over at powder mountain which had been a white-out day with a struggle to even ride up and park for the day
The park city places hve shuttles as well from a place nearby and were good deals, pre rental car.
Question guys what ever happened to Elk Meadows, did they go Private or just cease to exist? I liked the place especially for the cut-rate $5-tuesdays , $10 weds, $15 thurs they were offering. I felt lucky to have gotten there although (misplaced) guilt since I might have taken advantage of them. The ride up to there place as well as Brian Head were both uniQue as far as sights most Utah skier's don't appreciate.
I don't ski that cheapmuch anymore, maybe a CAD at Elk Mountain in Pa. or a free birthday at Belleayre , woud be about it Especially with the buying power of the 2001 dollar compared to the present. McCauley $8.00 fridays last year, great small place above Utica that does ski big.
later, v. varmit
post #16 of 28
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I don't ski that cheapmuch anymore, maybe a CAD at Elk Mountain in Pa.
later, v. varmit
Hmm, We were there yest year..I don't remember seeing you
post #17 of 28

Elk skiing 2006

I skiied on the Janusry buchman's and other ski shop days if my memory serves me. I think I had my first post on a meet on the hill forum and a lot of guys couldn't get there. It could've been a february one though that's not the way I remember it. It's a blurr anyway since I finished the season at Jay too early after returning from a variety pack trip out of Spokane, Washington. Hopefully I'll get to meet some of you all next time around. give me a PM in case I miss any dialogue here. thanks eric
post #18 of 28
Ok i lived in utah so here is what i think if you are just taking a trip.

Fat skis, 80-90 is not fat, fat = 100mm+, just demo some.

also stay in the valley way cheaper and use the buses. best public transportation in the country.

dont go to pc
post #19 of 28
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Originally Posted by Mr. G View Post
I've just booked a trip to Utah for the week after Christmas...It's my second trip west but first time to Utah. I'm staying at a downtown hotel and want to know if I need to rent a car or is there public/private transporation that can get me to Alta/Snowbird/Brighton/Solitude...those 4 resorts have a combo lift ticket deal that seems to include public transportation. Also, which of these 3 skis would you recommend taking along: Atomic Metron 11, Fischer RX9, or Bandit XX?

Thanks in advance for any tips. (positive comments about the conditions that time of year would be welcomed to offset the pain in my wallet...)
You're staying downtown? If that's the case, get a car unless you enjoy the early morning hustle to get to the train station, transfer to a bus and ride it from the start as it progressively gets more and more packed. Start to finish it will be almost an hour and a half, regardless of what the schedule tells you. Leaving is another fun exercise with the bus. If you're at Alta or Brighton it's easier to get a spot because they're first stops on the return. Want to hang out and post-game at GMD or a restaurant at the bird? Better end your ski day early or you won't have that luxury when you have to catch a bus. A car will make it so you have lots more freedom of time and options.

Are you coming to ski groomers, go off piste or a combination? If mostly groomers bring whatever is most comfortable to you. If you get some dumps while you're out here and want to venture off the beaten path I'd recommend demos.
post #20 of 28
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Originally Posted by VASKI244 View Post
You're staying downtown? If that's the case, get a car unless you enjoy the early morning hustle to get to the train station, transfer to a bus and ride it from the start as it progressively gets more and more packed. Start to finish it will be almost an hour and a half, regardless of what the schedule tells you. Leaving is another fun exercise with the bus. If you're at Alta or Brighton it's easier to get a spot because they're first stops on the return. Want to hang out and post-game at GMD or a restaurant at the bird? Better end your ski day early or you won't have that luxury when you have to catch a bus. A car will make it so you have lots more freedom of time and options.

Are you coming to ski groomers, go off piste or a combination? If mostly groomers bring whatever is most comfortable to you. If you get some dumps while you're out here and want to venture off the beaten path I'd recommend demos.
I think when he said "downtown" he ment at the base of the canyons. 1 bus trip
post #21 of 28
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all of the replies...I think I'll start out trying the light-rail to bus route. If it's too much of a hassle I'll rent a car after a few days. I just got all the route infor from my hotel and Utah Trans. Authority. It seems pretty simple as long as I get up early and leave the resot by 5PM...The only drawback I see is not having a chance to get to the mountains early. With the money saved by not renting a car maybe I'll look into buying some fatter skis for fututre trips...(I won't ask for suggestions!)
post #22 of 28

good choice

Time on bus/ train could be an even trade-off, one wrong turn on your own and youare beat by rapid transit. More crowds = more insight for your first run translation kid with local knowledge money for the ride and a season pass is going to know where he is going, treat him like yourfirst guide. Have a map with you for the day and you don't have to walk from your car.
It is critical that you plan what you might need for the day and figure it might fit in your pockets and my usual lunch bag is a grocery bag on a ski rack. Also don't loose track of your shoes that pair in the motel might be the flip flops (go-forwards for the pool/sauna, an appropriate boot strap will keep the shoes together under the table in the lodge, take them with you for the last lift down the green cruiser so you can say thanks to the lifties and get the bus ski-out.
Reserve the car for a few days into the trip Park city is easy to find but you can carpool and probably be more familiar with things, and the internet will reveal the right price on a vehicle and ready to party, Utah had required sponsors for a drink. That provides you with someone to hang with as well, although that could've been old style laws.
The beer is low alcohol but the altitude will negate that to some degree.Only option would be to run up to Idaho although You didn't get that here, besides it's way to far to get the deposit on a keg, although the ride is nice. I'd then visit Pebble creek since Inkom isn't too par from Pocatella.
You'll soon realize that you must return soon anyway. Since Beaver mountain and sundance aren't on your itinerary or a two for one day at Snowbasin or the flipside up there above Ogden, Mountain Powder.
Respect the road closures they are necessary and are most likely making the mountain safe while they clear the road anyway.
Enjoy the mountain time and catch your breathe (snooze on the flight home. later eric
post #23 of 28

note to Philpug

correction that buckman's cad was the one in February last year after all, I finally determined


Do you ever get up to Belleayre? they offer ski on your birthday (free) or for the summer born, a 1/2 birthday alternative is the deal. You have to get your proof out and show it at the customer service place in either lodge.

I also should mention a subscription to New York Conservationist will get you a free voucher for anytime $12 bucks / six issues, check it out for details at NYS cons. website ---google it for now---, also in Belleayre brochue near bACK COVER. Quite a decent read for non-commercial zine.
I like to use the place for a midway ski for a trip north, etc.note New lift installed this summer will make skiing over to mountain right a instinctive move. The new guy in charge seems to have a better sense of snow management in may eye. later v. varmit
post #24 of 28
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Originally Posted by steveturner View Post
I think one of the advantages of staying in SLC is to use the public transportation. The bus is good and it's even fun to ride with the other skiers. You do not need a car to get to the mountains, take the bus.
I always try to take public transportation when possible. It's a great way to meet locals, cheap, environmentally friendly... but, I'm getting a little worried about the UTA Ski bus from what I have heard on this thread and others about crowded buses.

How crowded do the buses get on powder days (Weekdays/ Weekends)? Crowded in the way that you have to stand or so crowded people cannot get on the bus and miss skiing that day?
post #25 of 28
i think you need to listen to others with more bus experience than me, but a few yrs back i didn't have the 4WD and it snowed, and I remember it was a madhouse even parking for the bus, long line, a rush for the doors, everyone standing, late getting up the hill, a real hassle and ugly way to start a day. i also remember taking the bus a few times, forget why, when everything was smooth(don't think it was snowing). remember, in a good storm, all the locals want to get up the hill and there are plenty of others who rented a 2wd who also want up, then you might have the canyon road closed until 10a, which just adds to the "up anxiety".
post #26 of 28
I've never done it either, but I have a friend who was in SLC for business a few years ago when they got dumped on and decided to play hookey. He gave up when he couldn't find anywhere legal to park his rental car near the bus stop.

Now this was a spur of the moment thing, not planned out, so he may not have been looking in the right place.

Plan ahead.
post #27 of 28
I'm telling you, you'll be much happier having your own transportation. You'll be sick of the bus after two days of that stuff.
post #28 of 28
He should have just made the drive to The Park City area. You see a lot of Altaholics skiing in Park City on those day when getting up the Canyons is to much of a hassle.
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