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Mtn Creek, Vernon, NJ opening Dec 9

post #1 of 27
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I recieved a newsletter from Mtn Creek and they have announced their opening for Dec 9. Can't wait till the season kicks off! I better go pickup my season pass soon. Hopefully they get the good trails open early this year, Zero G and Eagle Hunt on Vernon didn't open until Feb, Devil's Bit and pipeline waited till March. That's just pathetic, when MC has everything open it is really a nice place to spend the day (with the exception of all the snowboarders and long lines), but when nothing is really open on Vernon and Granite, it can get pretty boring just skiing South & Bear all day, although Bear Peak is really nice. Lets hope they can get their act together this season.
post #2 of 27
they're shooting for the first week of Dec, that's what the official word is from HR when I went in last week. Yea pipeline didn't open up till march, but temps were not favorable plus they made more artificial on 'marketable' trails. Pipeline isn't skied by say 85+% of guests who go there...still was a bummer tho. It'll probably be like every season opening, south and then vernon/ granite by high season week (aka christmas). At least this year we wont have to look at construction equipment by the ski school meeting area; the hotel is pretty much done...
If you have a season pass and free weekdays, it is actually pretty enjoyable to ski when everything is open and its cold, no lines, open trail. Devils onto fox is probably the best place to crank some GS turns on the entire hill; perfect combo of pitch and snow conditions during a quiet day....
post #3 of 27
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Originally Posted by makwendo99 View Post
they're shooting for the first week of Dec, that's what the official word is from HR when I went in last week. Yea pipeline didn't open up till march, but temps were not favorable plus they made more artificial on 'marketable' trails. Pipeline isn't skied by say 85+% of guests who go there...still was a bummer tho. It'll probably be like every season opening, south and then vernon/ granite by high season week (aka christmas). At least this year we wont have to look at construction equipment by the ski school meeting area; the hotel is pretty much done...
If you have a season pass and free weekdays, it is actually pretty enjoyable to ski when everything is open and its cold, no lines, open trail. Devils onto fox is probably the best place to crank some GS turns on the entire hill; perfect combo of pitch and snow conditions during a quiet day....
Yeah, the creek absolutely rocks on days where it's not crowded and it's all open. Vernon is enjoyable going back and forth between Half Moon to Zero G, and Eagle Hunt to Lower Eagle. Then taking Red Rock over the Granite and Grinding it out on Pipeline and Devil's Bit. To get back to Vernon, taking Fox Run and then the hard left on Oppossum is a beautiful runout, but everytime I wanna turn on to oppossum, the orange line is always up, hell the trail was never even open last year, pathetic. MC better make sure they get trails like Oppossum open this year, along with Jumping Jack on South. I have no idea why they decided to never make an effort all season to open Jumping Jack. I could never enjoy night skiing on south as their was only one way down from the top of with lack of lighting on Red Tail.
post #4 of 27
i go ANY night after 630pm kids start filing out after this time... i stick the the gondola trials... its fun but it does get boring, especilly when 50 % of the park is ice.. Hopefully well have some real snow this year, or at least cooler temps:
post #5 of 27
RobA! ah! we have found another! A mountain creek skier who is not a park rat! there's a few other bears who work/ski there BillA and some may remember Vlad from last season...there are others...just can't think of names
post #6 of 27
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RobA! ah! we have found another! A mountain creek skier who is not a park rat! there's a few other bears who work/ski there BillA and some may remember Vlad from last season...there are others...just can't think of names
And proud of it. All the snowboards and park rat skiers at MC really ruin the place and give it a bad name. And it really ticks me off how MC caters to them. 8 years ago their was a 5 yr plan to make all new expert runs coming off of southern sojourn. What did they do instead? Turned what used to be great, non-crowded, runs in Great Northern into snowboard paradise and spend $1,000,000 on a halfpipe.
post #7 of 27
Rob a lot of times its about the bottom line....the superpipe is a huge marketing tool with the grand prix every year and all. The knuckledraggers do get in the way but in the end they keep the place alive.
post #8 of 27
So nice to see positive comments about MC. Even with the crowds, even with the boarders, its still really a great place.

Anyone know if they added any type of drive up-drop off area on the base side of the road, now that construction is cleared?

Heard that Granite View is no longer. :
post #9 of 27
New at Mt Creek

•Cab Ride has been widened and flattened
•Fox Run has been widened at the intersection with Zero-G
•Access to Sugar Slope is from Sugar lift only, it will be fenced off from the rest of the mountain
•The upgrade of the water piping for the snow making at Vernon is complete, the result should be increased snowmaking capability
•Fortress funds has completed the takeover of Intrawest, this is being viewed as a good thing
•The Appalachian will be 100% complete by the start of the season
•Vernon finally approved the master plan for the village and the plan is to remove the “tents” and start construction of the building to replace them in the spring of 08
post #10 of 27
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Heard that Granite View is no longer. :
Haha, that trail serves absolutely no significance anyway. It's more flat and boring than southern sojourn and all it does is take you back to the granite base. They are better off not wasting money blowing snow on it, and just calling the bottom of it part of pipeline.

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New at Mt Creek

•Cab Ride has been widened and flattened
•Fox Run has been widened at the intersection with Zero-G
•Access to Sugar Slope is from Sugar lift only, it will be fenced off from the rest of the mountain
•The upgrade of the water piping for the snow making at Vernon is complete, the result should be increased snowmaking capability
•Fortress funds has completed the takeover of Intrawest, this is being viewed as a good thing
•The Appalachian will be 100% complete by the start of the season
•Vernon finally approved the master plan for the village and the plan is to remove the “tents” and start construction of the building to replace them in the spring of 08
Finally that smelly tent will be removed, this is excellent! Any news on whether MC will concentrate more on trails like Devil's Bit, Pipeline, Zero G, and Eagle Hunt this year to get them open early? And I never understood this but, why was Jumping Jack never opened last season?
post #11 of 27
Been there twice and both times have got to be the worst skiing experiences of my life. Long lines, lousy terrain, crappy lifts, lousy snow, did I mention long lines. I did like the halfpipe though. But I dont plan to ever visit the place again, for all the time I wasted on lines there, I could have driven up to Hunter and had a much better experience.
post #12 of 27
I'm not really sure what effect it will have, but Intrawest upper management structrures have been shifted to align Stratton and Mountain Creek. From what I un derstand, most of the departments have been merged together so that there is one guy overseeing, for example, the food and beverages department. I'm not really sure what (if any) effect this will have on the resort experience, but thought I would share. I would guess that there will be some more active cross-promotion (e.g. signs at Stratton reminding visitors that Mountain Creek is close to home and has night skiing on weekdays).
post #13 of 27
MC will be Mc, thats a slope that caters to teenage snowboarders. It is a shame but that's where the money is. So much cheaper to build and maintain a 1/2 pipe and park where 90% of the clientele will go to. Look at All the other Pocono slopes. They are all going that way. With the cost to blow snow and such, it's much cheaper per ticket this way,
post #14 of 27
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I would guess that there will be some more active cross-promotion (e.g. signs at Stratton reminding visitors that Mountain Creek is close to home and has night skiing on weekdays).
I noticed last year in the parking lot closest to the Cobblestone village archway, there was a little parking sign that says "Stratton South"
post #15 of 27

null point

It doesnt matter if Intrawest owns mountain creek...they can only really improve the mountain by increasing snowmaking...they can't add more vertical...

By adding the hotel thing theyre building at the base they are just going to bring in more crowds and have no way alleviating this from what I see. Intrawest is about making money. At least as stratton it doesn't take you two minutes to ski down the entire hill. My two cents...

post #16 of 27
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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post
MC will be Mc, thats a slope that caters to teenage snowboarders. It is a shame but that's where the money is. So much cheaper to build and maintain a 1/2 pipe and park where 90% of the clientele will go to. Look at All the other Pocono slopes. They are all going that way. With the cost to blow snow and such, it's much cheaper per ticket this way,
Please don't say that! You're probably right but I'd hate to see all the small areas turn into parks with a couple of runs as a side business. I never bother with MC or the Poconos but do venture out to Elk which is currently a nice friendly family place with good snow and some intermediate bump runs.
post #17 of 27
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Please don't say that! You're probably right but I'd hate to see all the small areas turn into parks with a couple of runs as a side business. I never bother with MC or the Poconos but do venture out to Elk which is currently a nice friendly family place with good snow and some intermediate bump runs.
Unfortunatly he is correct, I read an industry report a few years back that the small places just cant compete with big mountains, mainly, unsurprisingly in terrain. So they have two choices, close down or cater to a niche. Parks are where its at for small places that want to live. Locally, Tuxedo Park has gone the way of the doodoo as of last season, too small to attract much people, coupled with little snow last winter and they went under. They had been building up their terrain park, but I guess it was too little too late.
post #18 of 27
Sterling Forest (Tuxedo Park) could never put it together. They were close to going out for years but managed to scrape along somehow. I used to go there a lot when I was a kid and they almost never had all 7 (?) trails open. Actually, IIRC, they're snowmaker count was under 10. I haven't been there in over 15 years but always thought it would be a great place for a family of not-so-serious skiers - the majority of the market.
post #19 of 27

MC is pathetic!

And I don't mean that because of its natural limitations.

What I mean is that the amount of snow they make is pathetic, compared to other resorts in the area. Last season, several trails never opened or opened too late.

Their facilities are pathetic compared to other places. Not only they've had that stinky tent for years, they don't even have a small room for you to change clothes! Not even in the South base where there's an actual building...

Once the planned village is done in a few years, I assume the installations will be nice, but then the crowds will be unbearable...
post #20 of 27

MC is pathetic!

And I don't mean that because of its natural limitations.

What I mean is that the amount of snow they make is pathetic, compared to other resorts in the area. Last season, several trails never opened or opened too late.

Their facilities are pathetic compared to other places. Not only they've had that stinky tent for years, they don't even have a small room for you to change clothes! Not even in the South base where there's an actual building...

Once the planned village is done in a few years, I assume the installations will be nice, but then the crowds will be unbearable...
post #21 of 27

mountain creek

The best thing mountain creek could do is improve its snowmaking. They have some of the newer "fan" guns and not only are these much quieter, but they make better snow IMO.
post #22 of 27
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Looks like the creek is planning on starting up the snowguns this saturday.
post #23 of 27
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Wow, shockingly, after all this horrible warm weather recently (and the 10 day forecast shows that it ain't letting up anytime soon) Mtn Creek will open this weekend to kickoff the season! Big Bear will be open on Bear, Canyon on South.

I'm psyched and ready to go. Time to start the ski season.
post #24 of 27
"I'm psyched and ready to go. Time to start the waterski season"( )
post #25 of 27
They usually have lousy snow when everyone else has good snow, so I can only imagine what this is like.......well that place used to be a water park called Action Park in the summer, so they have the know how and superstructure for all the fun filled water activities that will transpire..dont forget your bathing suits!
post #26 of 27
i live in nj and have never and will never ski at mtn. creek, it's better to just make the trek to blue or camelback, sometimes even hunter
post #27 of 27
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i live in nj and have never and will never ski at mtn. creek, it's better to just make the trek to blue or camelback, sometimes even hunter
I second that - I gave them many chances and felt being screwed every time I went there.
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