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post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
I am looking to pick up a couple new pairs of skis this year for use primarily in the NE and few trips out west. I am about 5' 10'' and 230 lbs and fairly strong and athletic. I consider myself to be a strong intermediate/advanced skier (probably a 7 or 8) and like skiing all over the mountain.

After having read through a number of the threads on this board, I am currently leaning towards the following skis:

- Fischer RX8 (170) for carving groomers and ice/hardpack

- K2 Public Enemy (174) for bumps, trees, crud, and some powder (if the ski gods cooperate)

I would appreciate any reviews or other recommendations. Thanks.
post #2 of 15
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Originally Posted by jtb910 View Post
I am looking to pick up a couple new pairs of skis this year for use primarily in the NE and few trips out west. I am about 5' 10'' and 230 lbs and fairly strong and athletic. I consider myself to be a strong intermediate/advanced skier (probably a 7 or 8) and like skiing all over the mountain.

After having read through a number of the threads on this board, I am currently leaning towards the following skis:

- Fischer RX8 (170) for carving groomers and ice/hardpack

- K2 Public Enemy (174) for bumps, trees, crud, and some powder (if the ski gods cooperate)

I would appreciate any reviews or other recommendations. Thanks.
I'm also a big guy and think your selection is very good for New England, but you might want to go wider on your second ski for out west. I would also go longer on both skis. Consider a 188cm Dynastar 8800 or even a 193 Head MOJO 90 to compliment your 175cm or longer RX8.

I own both the RX8 in a 175cm & the Dynastar Inspired in a 188cm, AKA 8800.

Cheers,

Michael
post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 
Thanks for your input. How are the 8800s and the MOJOs through the bumps? I had heard a lot of good things about the PEs in the bumps.
post #4 of 15
Of the skis discussed, the shorter PE will be best in bumps. The MOJO will be a little better in the bumps than the 8800, twin tips such as the MOJO or PE will handle bumps well.

The RX8 will do well in the bumps as well.

Cheers,

Michael
post #5 of 15
If I was to do a 2 ski quiver...

M11 B5

Snoop Daddy/Karma/some other 88-95 waisted ski.
post #6 of 15
I would also go just a bit wider (90ish waist sounds about right) for your second ski. The RX8 actually does quite well in bumps and softer snow so you can afford to get a bit more specialized with the second ski. My current east coast two ski quiver is Fischer RX9s 165 cm and Rossignol Scratch BCs 176 cm (the 04-05 model with a 90 mm waist). Another ski I've heard good things about is the Dynastar Big Trouble (92 mm waist).
post #7 of 15
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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese View Post
If I was to do a 2 ski quiver...

M11 B5
Interesting choice, Phil. I just picked up an 2005 M11 vs. the "relaxed waist" 2006 model. Have you compared them yourself?

But I have a hard time seeing where anything beyond 76-78mm is really worthwhile for everyday western skiing. Even on a "chamber of commerce day", within a couple of hours you're down to nasty chop. The big boys are less useful then. For eastern skiing, most of the "tastey bits" are within the 4-6 foot trail edge so you need to be faster on edge than a fatty can handle.

About length: I was running 215lbs or more and had no problem in 18" or more at 170cm with a 70mm waist. I ran some fatties last year in the 160-ish range; again, no probs. No need for excessive length (or width) unless you have self-esteem problems.
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...But I have a hard time seeing where anything beyond 76-78mm is really worthwhile for everyday western skiing. Even on a "chamber of commerce day", within a couple of hours you're down to nasty chop. The big boys are less useful then. For eastern skiing, most of the "tastey bits" are within the 4-6 foot trail edge so you need to be faster on edge than a fatty can handle...
Great summery on width . Your ability to ski a 170cm at 215 lbs is a product of your skill as a skier, it may not be the ideal length for most skiers your size.

The length issue not only depends on size of the skier; conditions and speed play a role in determining the best length. If the skier likes speed and is able to carve up the crud, a ski that is longer than 170 is essential for most skiers heavier than 185 Lbs.

Michael
post #9 of 15
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Originally Posted by bsather View Post
Interesting choice, Phil. I just picked up an 2005 M11 vs. the "relaxed waist" 2006 model. Have you compared them yourself?
I skied the M11 for a season and the two are competely different skis. Actually, the waist is the same at 76mm, it is the tip and tail that are relaxed. The ski is much better in hard snow and carves a better turn. The B5 version is also more composed at speeds where the M11 tended to get a bit loose. I actually preferred my son's M10's over the M11's.
post #10 of 15
The Fischer RX-8 is a great groomer ski for the east and although it has a lot of shape for bumps, it is not so drastic that it will kick your butt. It is a fine choice.

The '07 PE is a different animal than in the past and is actually pretty firm when comapred to the rather noodley PE's of the past. It has pretty decent edge hold for what it is. I love the 8800 and interestingly, the 178 8800 and the 179 PE have similar running surface lengths. Both of these are fairly firm skis with the nod going to the 8800 in edge grip and in crud pushing power while the PE may be slightly easier in bumps.

RX-8 + PE = not bad set up. I'd choose the 8800 personally, but the '07 PE is a good buy. The '06 is not so great.

SJ
post #11 of 15

barrettscv......

How do you like the rx-8 in 175. I ski Monster 88's in 186 as my off road/all mountain ride, but I'm looking for a groomer ski. 6-1 215, so I'd assume a 175 for me in the rx-8. Appreciate your thoughts on the rx-8. Also looking at the allstar, xrc 1200, supershape....TIA
post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by Hokiesnow View Post
How do you like the rx-8 in 175. I ski Monster 88's in 186 as my off road/all mountain ride, but I'm looking for a groomer ski. 6-1 215, so I'd assume a 175 for me in the rx-8. Appreciate your thoughts on the rx-8. Also looking at the allstar, xrc 1200, supershape....TIA
I really enjoy the RX8. Very quick & lively. The ski produces SL type turns without much effort or complex technique. The ski is very versatile and operates well on ice, moguls, and soft snow up to boot-top depth.

The RX8 is not intended for maniac speeds; the Allstar & XRC 1200 are more damp and handle speed better, I would assume. The Supershape is similar to the RX8 and is another short turning marval for a wide range of conditions; the supershape is more technical to use.

Hope that helped!

Cheers,

Michael
post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese View Post
I skied the M11 for a season and the two are competely different skis.
Thanks for the info, Phil. The attraction of the 2005 M11 for me is that it is an 11m ski and I've never owned anything so turny. It'll be interesting finding the best conditions for it. I can see why they "toned it down" for 2006; it's probably a more reasonable design.

To barrettsvc: Don't count my ability to ski a 170cm ski at 215 to greatness: credit HH (at least indirectly). I'm too old to power these things around in a "traditional way"; it's all PMTS (or what I've figured out about it). Because PMTS advocates a controlled flight path throughout the turn, there is no "waiting around" for the end of the turn to actually do something (by the time speed and forces have really built up) therefore needing a bigger ski to accomplish control.
post #14 of 15
I would choose the 8800 if I were you. I own the 178 and I can make just about any turn shape I want on it. They have a more forgiving flex than the Pro and have great floatation. They track well in crud and hold a good edge on hardpack. I have yet to hear anything bad about these sticks.
Bumps-PE
Everywhere else-8800.
post #15 of 15
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the info. Can anyone specifically compare the PEs vs. the Karmas for me?
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