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Volant Addicts time to explain yourselves.

post #1 of 28
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What is it about the Volant skis that have made you a loyal patron of their products?
I intend to try them this winter in Montana but have no experience with them .
Tell me something about them amd why you like them so much.
post #2 of 28
I remember when the FX (1-2-3) series was first introduced. I likened the ski to a slug on valium, I hated them. A few years later I got in the G-max and that ski was an eye opener for me. I hooked up with the Volant rep and became an area/tech rep, from that point I got on the PowerKarves Epics, and SuperKarves. I have had pretty much every variation of FMJ's and set my whole family up and a few in my close circle.

Through the years and rising to the Atomic/Volants I saw a decline in quality (we bent almost every pair we had) and outdated shapes. That is when I moved onto various other companies.
post #3 of 28
Hi Garry,

Volant involved the best of American talent and became a breakthrough ski company. They produced superb snow skis developed by Hank Kashiwa, Shane McConkey and others. Most famous for the Chubb, Fat Bastard & Spatula powder skis, the organization produced full range of skis for any skier.

Now owned by the same organization that owns Atomic, Volants are marketed as an upscale ski for owners who want a luxury feel.

Owning a Volant links the skier to a great American ski company. A company of brilliant vision and technological skill.

Cheers,

Michael
post #4 of 28
I've got 2 pair of Volants (Super Chubbs and Super Karves) and have loved, loved, loved every second I've ever ski'd on them...when I'm on groovers or in shallow pow.

However, when I get into the deep pow or bumps . . . ugggggh!

Super great luxury cruisers, not so great when being aggressive mostly because they're so laterally stiff and also heavier than the other ski's on the market.

As for looks, I've never not gotten stared at while the sun glints of the 'steel' of the tops...these things look cool, cool, cool, but, they're terribly unforgiving when they get a scratch. It might be that I'm the owmer, but whenver I get a scratch, it's all I can see...unlike on some other ski's in the quiver.

The only other 'issue', weight. Make sure you only lift on chairs that have a foot rest or bar, or go in gondola's because haging a pair of 180's for the 10 minutes from bottom to top absolutely sucks!
post #5 of 28
I remember when I first moved to Colorado, I got picked up at the airport by my wife. On the way out of Denver we passed the Volant factory in Wheatridge and I got a feeling of "home", like any place where they make skis is a place for me.

Bye, bye Volant. Bye, bye Jolly Rancher.
post #6 of 28
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Originally Posted by barrettscv View Post
Volants are marketed as an upscale ski for owners who want a luxury feel.
What, pray tell, is a "luxury feel" in a ski? Can you be more specific?
post #7 of 28
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Originally Posted by Posaune View Post
What, pray tell, is a "luxury feel" in a ski? Can you be more specific?
Luxury feel? Think Cadillac: damp, stable, quiet, smooth.
post #8 of 28
My first two sessions with an FX3 were on soft snow, middle of the day, late season, and I could not get anything, and I mean anything out of them. Limp noodles.

On Sunday afternoon, I was actually prepared to be embarassed on a bit of ski date as I didn't have the Elans and I had not sharpened the FX3s. Uh-oh. Then the deepfreeze hit around 3pm. 4 feet of slush into icicles in 2 hours.

The FX3s could do no wrong. Bumps, frozen cat treads, no problem. Ok, maybe the one thing wrong was that I hesitated when she called it quits to go for Irish coffee...

So, they got a place in the rack. They were actually silly-light, silly-thin skis, it was the bindings particularly Marker Logic, particularly the demos, that put the weight on. Yet whoever had the Volant account down here had done his job well, and if I needed a PK in 150cmish for a rental, they were available and they could be trusted on chewed-up hardpack, however unskilled the driver. It was my go-to women's rental ski for anything other than hero snow.

Then I took the optical base Chubbs to Utah, and wowza, got addicted to how versatile they were, even on grass-cutting expeditions to some of the low spots, even on super hardpack if you remembered not to leave your hips behind.

Then there was the Goode connection and the Atomic years, the Genesis Gold was nice, the rest no love yet.
post #9 of 28
The PowerKarve was also the first "Mid-fat" ski.
post #10 of 28
I picked up some V2 Chubbs for this year. I haven't had them out (though I demoed them a couple years ago) but I've already found they are great for spotting food in your beard.

BTW - Which Volants did you get?
post #11 of 28
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Originally Posted by barrettscv View Post
Luxury feel? Think Cadillac: damp, stable, quiet, smooth.
Also think: dead, lifeless....
post #12 of 28
picked up some V2's 'cause they were a deal, i wanted (more than needed) a fffat muthah, i like the look, and keelty seemed to think they're a decent dedicated powder ski.

seemed worth a shot.

i may not be on them till powder mountain at the end of january.

they filled out my ski collection too.
post #13 of 28
I only skied them twice but I LOVED the spatulas
post #14 of 28
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Originally Posted by GarryZ View Post
What is it about the Volant skis that have made you a loyal patron of their products?
I intend to try them this winter in Montana but have no experience with them .
Tell me something about them amd why you like them so much.
I haven't been on them for 10 years, but when I had them, I was hooked. The lengthwise softness made them great in powder and bumps, while the torsional stiffness made them good on ice. They were very smooth with a big sweet spot. They also tended to bend. I had 3 pair, with at least 1 pair in for waranty replacement the whole time I owned them. When 1 got replaced, another got sent back. I think I bent about 10 pair, and only bought 3. I once took a pair out on demo on a soft snow day, went up the lift, down the backside of Hunter with no bumps, lift up, skied down the front side via a very smooth run through the Eisenhower soft bumps. I stopped at some people who were watching, as they complimented my run, I looked down and one those Demo Volant tips were pointing back at me! My shop owner claimed they had my poster up in the return dept. I finally gave up on them. I drove a pair into a bump on Crossover once, and both skis bent, when put together they made a perfect Y.
post #15 of 28
Smooth feeling skis, don't get banged around much by any crud, softer longitudinally while stiff torsionally. Nice snow feel without passing alot of vibration up to the driver.

Unfortunately, as Phil said, the quality went down - that along with some design changes made them much easier to bend. I now have 3 pairs of bent Volants that make a nice decoration on my garage wall. I'm down to one pair of each - Soul, Sin, and FB. We'll see how long those last.
post #16 of 28

If you want to make love to the mountain Volants are your tool.

In some respects Volants are the deadest skis there are because they are so smooth and so damp that you hardly feel them. All the old models and most of the new ones have soft tails which do not give you any snap at the end of the turn. I call them my "rubber snakes" because they lay there and smoothly follow the snow at any speed with no kickback until I tell them do do something, yet they carve exceptionally well on hard snow. You never have to fight them.
post #17 of 28
Little known fact: Volant made some DH skis that the Austrian National Team tested under the Head lable.
post #18 of 28
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Originally Posted by barrettscv View Post
Luxury feel? Think Cadillac: damp, stable, quiet, smooth.
I couldn't say it better, so I won't.

Volant is a luxury-liner ride, with the impunity of a Hummer.

If you're looking for light and lively, forget it.

If you're looking for smooth and unflappable, go for it!

I have an overflowing quiver - more than I need. But, I'll never sell my 10-year-old Chubbs.

Pure magic!
post #19 of 28
I was looking for a second pair of skis a couple years ago. I wanted something that would aid my goal of improving my skiing off piste, and I found some 173 Powerkarves on ebay I read everything I could find on them with an internet search. I was intrigued by Volant as I'd seen them in Play It Again Sports and thought they were beautiful. I bid and won them with a $0.30 bid. Since I had spent so little on them, the next day when I noticed an auction for Chubbs still at a reasonable price I bid on them too. I won them with a $65.00 bid.

The Chubbs arrived first, and I loved them immediately for how easy they were to turn for such a big ski (188s and the fattest ski I'd ever skied), but I had not begun to realize their potential.

The Powerkarves arrived a few days later, and though I was unhappy about some undisclosed delamination, I skied them and discoverd a stability and smoothness I had never felt before. It was like riding a skateboard on glass, even when pointing them through piles of variable chop they seemed to erase the uneveness of the snow, with vitually no deflection.

Since this feeling was somewhat of an epiphany for me, and the skis I first discovered it on were past their prime, I bought another pair of Powerkarves (this time in a 183) so I would always have that feeling available. Over the next month I found that the Chubbs had the same silky smooth quality, especially if I really let them loose, and charged the hill (I'd become very confident in myself skiing with skis that made it so easy).

After the end of the season, I found a pair of Gravity Powers at Garts, and was unable to resist buying them (again after reading everything available on the internet) for $112.10. This is the only pair of new skis I've ever bought. By this time I'd come to the expectation that I couldn't go wrong buying Volant's as the steel cap they had in common was the secret of that super smooth, confidence inspiring ride I loved so much.

I bought a pair of 188 Ti Powers expecting they were 183s, since they were advertised as 185s, and because they were mis advertised, the woman who sold them to me, chose to (without my asking her to) refund me half of the purchase price. This was around the time I first discovered epicski. I then added a pair of Ti Supers because I figured I needed some skis just for hard packed snow (and I was a hopeless addict at this point), when deciding to post, I had to come up with a screen name, and well I thought I'd just describe my current behavior at the time.

So Garry, when you come out this winter, you'll get to feel the smoothness of that steel magic carpet which keeps myself and others loyal to the exclusion of all else.

Ride the steel, baby!!! :
post #20 of 28
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Originally Posted by U.P. Racer View Post
Also think: dead, lifeless....
Unlike the light, twitchy, unstable, pushed around by the terrain, skis that some love to wrestle with.
post #21 of 28
One person's: "dead, lifeless", is another person's "smooth, luxurious".

When I ski Volant's, my attitude to life is different. Rather than coiled, tense and explosive, I become calm, relaxed and confident.

Volant's are for cruising through life, and the hill.
post #22 of 28
Garry,

My love affair began with a demo session of a pair of T3's after not skiing for 15 years... Within half an hour, I felt like I had never stopped skiing and was 3 times better than I had ever been before I stopped... I skied with ease off piste in areas I would never have ventured before and skied my a** off. Granted much of that was the change from straight to shaped, but suffice it to say first impressions are tough to forget. I bought a pair of McG's and had the time of my life for four more years until my unfortunate appointment with too much air, a broken heel and a couple ribs... No fault of the skis and they remain dear to my heart, though bent like a dog's weenus... I caved and bought a pair of Metron M11's this year, so I've been dis-owned by VA...

Anonymous, SD2112
post #23 of 28
A "lively" ski is one that has a strong personality and does some things whether you want it to or not. Some people apparently like to wrestle an exciting experience out of that, but I prefer a ski like Volant that will calmly and smoothly behave until I make it do something. I'm alive, so it's not really a problem if my skis aren't.
post #24 of 28
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Originally Posted by SnowDog2112 View Post
I caved and bought a pair of Metron M11's this year, so I've been dis-owned by VA...

SD2112
I don't know what is more the anti-Volant? A M11 or a Goode .

If the 10+ pair that I owned, the only ones I didn't like were the FB's, it was the first volant that felt heavy to me.
post #25 of 28
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Originally Posted by SnowDog2112 View Post
. I caved and bought a pair of Metron M11's this year, so I've been dis-owned by VA...

Anonymous, SD2112
I certainly have NOT disowned you, but I do think you're insane!

Maybe you can mosy on over to The Bowl this year, GZ will be making an appearance, and maybe some other epic characters too.
post #26 of 28
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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese View Post
If the 10+ pair that I owned, the only ones I didn't like were the FB's, it was the first volant that felt heavy to me.
What was the one with the perimeter weighting system? Zmax?
post #27 of 28
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Originally Posted by volantaddict View Post
Maybe you can mosy on over to The Bowl this year, GZ will be making an appearance, and maybe some other epic characters too.
Sounds fun... All I need are some tasty slopes, a cool buzz and I'm there! Lemme know when.
post #28 of 28
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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese View Post
If the 10+ pair that I owned, the only ones I didn't like were the FB's, it was the first volant that felt heavy to me.
I absolutely agree. This is one Volant ski where the weight really comes through even when you're riding it. I'm still undecided on it. I'll ride it a few more times this season and then decide if it needs to go on the block.
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