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post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
I always have this debate

Dee nastar, or Die nastar?

Also, Stockli?
post #2 of 26
I've heard both. Whats do the reps say?
post #3 of 26
<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ January 24, 2002 02:55 PM: Message edited 1 time, by AltaSkier ]</font>
post #4 of 26
In Europe, they are pronounce Die na star, or so I've been told.

What is the correct pronunciation of K2?


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post #5 of 26
Sturk-lee is as close as I can spell it phonetically. It's *Stockli* with an umlaut over the O. The umlaut actually represents an E and so you would pronounce it as if spelled "Stoeckli"

"Sturk-lee" is an exaggeration. You don't really pronounce the full R, it's more like the first half of the R sound, more like an "errrr" sound.
post #6 of 26
die nastar here on the east coast
post #7 of 26
Stöckli: "ST" in German is pronounced
"SHT", then take the vowel sound from the English word "took", but draw it out slightly. "Sh-took-lee"

Völkl: The "v" in German is pronounced like an F in English, then take the vowel sound from the English word "full": "Fullkul." It's not perfect, but that's about as close as I can direct you without a phone call.

And if you live in the NY area, I'll give you German lessons for the epicskier bargain price of $55 an hour.

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ January 24, 2002 05:19 PM: Message edited 1 time, by jamesdeluxe ]</font>
post #8 of 26
die NASCAR, die...WRC forever!@#!@

I mean, er....uh..."die nuh star"
post #9 of 26
Thread Starter 
I have always said Die nastar but since the company is french it probably is realy DEE
post #10 of 26
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Wear the fox hat ?:
What is the correct pronunciation of K2?


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dee-lam-in-ate in English. Don't know what it is in Chinese.
post #11 of 26
Skied on them for 4 years, never had a problem with delam. Hopefully the quality will improve when it moves to China and away from a low build quality part of the world!


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post #12 of 26
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by irul&ublo:


dee-lam-in-ate in English. Don't know what it is in Chinese.
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That is very good....very good. I will add I'm a K2 pro rep and you have hurt me deeply!
post #13 of 26
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Wear the fox hat ?:
Skied on them for 4 years, never had a problem with delam. Hopefully the quality will improve when it moves to China and away from a low build quality part of the world!


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Now as to you sir......you have caused me to bristle and summon a little patriotic fervor. What exactly other than freckly red headed woman and terrorists has Ireland churned out in the past few years?

Taters,Guinness,Whiskey??????
post #14 of 26
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Wear the fox hat ?:
What is the correct pronunciation of K2?
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Pronounced "K"
The 2 is silent.

P.S. I always thought it was "Dee-na-star"
How about Atomic? I would imagine it isn't pronounced exactly as we say it in English.
post #15 of 26
Stockli ..... the begining is the same as "stow"...... but with the German Sht

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ January 24, 2002 07:43 PM: Message edited 1 time, by yuki ]</font>
post #16 of 26
Sorry, Rusty,
This was more a dig at Irul.
Here he says K2 can't make good skis - which I disagree with.
Then in another thread he is telling me that I'm wrong about British engineering design being excellent.
So, late last night (my time) I was getting a touch p!ssed off with him, and just let a flame go to shut him up.

Personally, I disagree with K2 going to China, not for quality reasons, but because of the working conditions in many Chinese factories. If the laborers are receiving a fair wage, have good working conditions, and reasonable hours, then I won't have a problem, but there is a history for labor abuse in many asian countries which disturbs me.


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post #17 of 26
As a Dynastar rep for the past 8 years, and skiing them for about 18 years, it's DEE-na-star. That's also the way to pronounce it according to the folks at Dynastar. French or English, right coast or left.

DEE, not Die.
post #18 of 26
Isn't a Y pronounced ooo in German? i.e. Doo na star (rep or no rep)
post #19 of 26
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by EnglishDan:
Isn't a Y pronounced ooo in German? i.e. Doo na star (rep or no rep) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

But Dynastar is a French company!

Of course, feel free to call them "dy-na-star." After all, most people who speak English don't pronounce Paris "par-ee"
post #20 of 26
The dee nah star or dee nuh star is correct. Ryan and Gonzostrike are correct about the umlaut but a closer pronunciation for stokli would be (yes it's close to the rrr sound but not quite) - for |o| sound make your mouth like you are going to say |o| but say |e| instead.
Ryan- I've had K2 skis for years, no problem with them. Some people like to tweak noses. Some break stuff or don't take care of it properly and then blame the equipement. Sometimes you get a lemon. It happens to everyone.
At the K2 China factory I'm sure the workers are getting paid more than at other factories over there even though it's not by our economic standards. We can't really argue against that, but the worker treatment may be an issue. But then, how do you change a country's culture? China and other countries are going through what we went through in the 1800's and early 1900's. We went through hard changes and succeeded. Under these dictatorial governments I fear these changes will be even harder. Sad ain't it?
post #21 of 26
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Wear the fox hat ?:
Sorry, Rusty,
This was more a dig at Irul.
So, late last night (my time) I was getting a touch p!ssed off with him, and just let a flame go to shut him up.

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HA...you wish.
post #22 of 26
Let me also add that over the years I have owned several pairs of K2s, staring with the original threes, fives, and 710s. I stioll have a pair of 208 GS Races, which are fun as hell to cruise on. I currently ski a pair of 193 Merlin 6s fitted with a VIST plate...little rocket ships.

However, and aside from the bitching and moaning at powdermag.com, K2 has a reputation of building fragile skis. I have heard this from two different shop owners I know, who, BTW, carry the product.

Plus, I'm still pissed that they dumped Phil and Steve. And I bet they're pissed about losing Bode. Who dumped whom there?

Hey Rusty...what does K2 recommend for bevel angles on my Merlins? I read somewhere 1 and 1; is that right? Your thoghts on a steeper edge bevel please.

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ January 25, 2002 10:42 AM: Message edited 1 time, by irul&ublo ]</font>
post #23 of 26
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rusty Guy:


Now as to you sir......you have caused me to bristle and summon a little patriotic fervor. What exactly other than freckly red headed woman and terrorists has Ireland churned out in the past few years?

Taters,Guinness,Whiskey??????
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Apple Computers, actually. Though, I seem to remember hearing a few years ago they were thinking of closing the plant in Cork, but sure if anything even became of that.
post #24 of 26
Being a K2 skier for the past 15 plus years I have never delamed a pair. Shattered the tip on a couple, bent numerous pairs, blew out sidwalls and lost sections of edges, but never a delam.
Now you would think that I had some bad luck, the skis stood up to some serious abuse.
I always liked the way the skis performed and I was always able to get a fresh pair through warranty.
I just got a pair of Axis X Pro's, some of the last US made pairs.
post #25 of 26
I've come to conclude that these discussions are not that productive.

I would agree that jamesdeluxe has it right on the pronouciation of Stockli and that John H has it right on Dynastar. But using ther german pronounciation for Atomic would produce A-Toe-mic which most in the USA do not seem prepared to accept. I have been reminded that we refer to Paris as Pear-iss and not Pa-ree as it is pronounced by the French themselves. So I guess one can call Dynastar Die-nah-star if they wish.
post #26 of 26
Grue,
You left out: Dell, Gateway, Compaq, Motorolla, Microsoft, Autodesk & Lotus
(OK, some of those have since closed, but Ireland is the second largest manufacturer of IT equipment in the world, the largest being a country with almost 8 times our population, i.e. the USA)

As for pronunciation, I always remember this one: The P is silent in Swimming Pool

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