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Arcteryx Minuteman or Stingray pants

post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 
Anyone have a pair of either of these. The Stingray is a softshell waterproof pants and the Minuteman is hardshell. Any one care to comment which might be the better choice for skiing?
post #2 of 25
If I lived in the PNW (and I used to, for 10 years) I would go for the goretex. I have a friend who has the Minuteman pants and they have excellent side venting and are XCR, so they breathe and vent pretty well even when you are working hard (like backcountry skinning). I read a reveiw somewhere recently that "waterproof" softshells by their very nature cannot breathe as well as a true waterproof fabric, nor can they be quite as truly waterproof, but I suppose that really depends on the individual fabric. Everything I have ever seen from Arcteryx (I own the Alpha SV shell and the Gamma SV softshell) is the best there is, so in reality it is probably hard to go wrong with either choice. I would also email Arcteryx and ask them which they think is a better fit for your inteded uses- I'll bet they answer.
post #3 of 25
Wizard,

I have the Minuteman and really like them. Spent two days at Bachelor last year in fairly "difficult" conditions-i.e. snowing very heavily and high winds. They performed flawlessly. Legs were dry and warm all day. On the other side, I have skiied a few sunny warm days in SoCal and never really had a problem with getting too hot either.

Could you get by with the Stingray for most days of skiing? Probably. But better to have the extra protection of the Minuteman and not need it as opposed to needing it and not having it. You know?

Glenn
post #4 of 25
I second the Goretex XCR rec. Another pant to consider is the Arcteryx Beta. Unlike the Minuteman, these have a full length zipper on the legs. I think they might be less expensive as well. I bought these to replace my North Face pants.
post #5 of 25
I have the Minuteman pants - love them.
post #6 of 25
Definitely the Minuteman. Sitting on a wet chairlift in anything that isn't truly waterproof blows.
post #7 of 25

You may also want to look at the Theta SK pant

It's similar to the Minuteman but with a slightly different cut. I forget the reason(s) why, but I preferred the Theta over the Minuteman.
post #8 of 25
I bought the Minuteman on Cirquerider's recommendations.
I like the fit and tough I haven't had a chance to ski in them I am an expert in good raingear having worked outside in Seattle for 30 years

They look awesome. Well constructed and great fabrics.
I will be thanking Cirque for sure for his advice this year often
post #9 of 25
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Originally Posted by sroh View Post
It's similar to the Minuteman but with a slightly different cut. I forget the reason(s) why, but I preferred the Theta over the Minuteman.
I also own the Theta SK pants. They are by far the best pants I've ever owned. They are a nice middle ground between the softshell and the Minuteman, and unbelievably durable. However between the Stingray and the Minuteman I would go with the Minuteman.
post #10 of 25
I've got them both. The Stingray is a slightly fuller cut (wider legs) and is thicker/warmer. Both are great and I don't notice much of a difference in terms of breathability (both have the same side zips) or waterproofyness. I'm not exactly sure what the fabric is on the stingray - it had goretex XCR on the tags - it feels like some sort of hybrid but it seems plenty waterproof to me; I'll find out this season if that holds up with use. Theoretically the stingray should breath better but I don't notice a difference.

I would say, if you are in a cold area and do mostly lift served get the stingray since they are warmer. If you are more apt to get real wet snow or go touring and heat up then get the minuteman. or if you can try them on, maybe just get whichever fits best.

I say you can't go wrong either way and the deals on those 2 pants can't be beat. I looked for the Theta SKs to replace my minuteman's but then I stumbled on a rediculous deal for the Stingrays (I think I paid like $120) so I just had to pull the trigger. When you detroy a pair a season like me those deals are no-brainers
post #11 of 25
I just received a catalog and the StingRay pants were like $350. That is a great buy at $120.
post #12 of 25
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the feedback. I'm leaning towards the Minuteman now because of where I live. It can sometimes get very wet out here on the west coast. The Minuteman sounds like it might hold up better for durability & waterproofness. Now to see where I can find a deal
post #13 of 25
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Originally Posted by wizard View Post
Thanks for all the feedback. I'm leaning towards the Minuteman now because of where I live. It can sometimes get very wet out here on the west coast. The Minuteman sounds like it might hold up better for durability & waterproofness. Now to see where I can find a deal
Found mine on S&C. Cross your fingers. It could happen there.
post #14 of 25

Can't go wrong with Minuteman

I have the Theta SK pants, matched with a Theta AR parka and have been out in hellacious, rainy conditions and remained bone dry.

I started wearing bib style pants years ago and will never go back. One thing about the Minuteman is that they have thigh pockets and the Theta SK don't.

I overheat easily and love the waterproof zippers, without a draft flap. It's really easy to zip them open after a run to vent heat - no fighting with velcro!
post #15 of 25
Another thing to note about the Minuteman is that there is no zipper on the boot-cuff, which may be a PITA to some if you like to have open access fo boot adjustments. I bought a pair of them and returned them because of this.

Nice pants though no doubt, but there are other options in Arcteryx hardshells as stated above.
post #16 of 25
I have the Theta's and love them ...
post #17 of 25

Theta SK

+1 on the Theta SK's. Purpose built for skiers and are the best pants I have had yet.
post #18 of 25
How is the sizing on the Minuteman pants? I wear inbetween a 33 which is medium and a 36 which is there large. Also is the waist area adjustable, as that would be plus over the Primo other pants I looked at.
post #19 of 25
I have the mediums, and my waist is a bit over 33, but there's still room for heavy thermals underneath.
The waist is adjustable on them, but if you're a 35, I'd say go for the 36, and pull the belt in tighter.
post #20 of 25
I have the Theta sk pants and I really like them.

For some reason I cant find them on the Arcteryx website but backcountry has them in stock.

http://www.backcountry.com/store/ARC...Pant-Mens.html

I really like them. They are a tad baggy but I'd rather have that than pants that inhibits my movement.
post #21 of 25
Minutemans are the best I ever owned in 25 years of skiing.
post #22 of 25

stingray

i just bought the stingray. they are indeed gortex and they are more than just a shell. soft interior liner and the outer shell feels like a softshell, looks like a softshell, but is authentic gortex. i am expecting them to be just as waterproof.
post #23 of 25
Try both pairs and just get whichever is more comfortable. For me, the minuteman medium's were just a tad too snug and I was swiming in the larges. The stingray's are a little generous cut and the mediums fit me perfect. I also prefered the less "stiff" feel of the stingrays so I went with them. I don't think you can go wrong either way.
post #24 of 25
Thread Starter 
Ended up with the Minuteman & they great. Nice fit, adjustable waist, bomber construction. My only gripe is the pockets. There are only 2 of them & they are tiny, not much good for anything other than maybe your car keys & a ski lock. Too bad, because otherwise I'd give them a 10/10 rating.

And ya.... SAC rulez!
post #25 of 25
Great XCR (minuteman) vs Gore-Tex Softshell (stingray) discussion here

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=45541
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