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Whistler skis for 21 yr old racer

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I may be taking a trip to Whistler this winter, which is great because I get to buy a new pair of skis! My background, I'm a 21 year old racer and coach. I'm 5'8" 165.

What would be my idea ski for a place like Whistler? I want to be able to ski everything, from powder to trees to groomed. I'm used to race stock skis on ice, so the ski needs to be able to hold an edge on hard stuff. The question is, how fat should I go and how long should I go? Are there any specific models worth checking out?
post #2 of 15
Atomic Metron B5. Hold an edge on ice & decent float for most conditions.
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Atomic Metron B5. Hold an edge on ice & decent float for most conditions.
I was thinking something a bit longer, like mid-180's... I prefer bigger turns, especially at a place with lots of vertical.
post #4 of 15
Dynastar Legend Pro Rider.
post #5 of 15
If I were young and a racer, I would probably go for the Head iM 82. Plenty of ski for big snow, but can handle groomed quite well too.
post #6 of 15
I weigh 5 pounds more and use to be about your height.
since you already have fat skis dont go too skiinny

the Atomic Fat skis you should look at, all have soft tip, but alot of edge grip, will float powder and except for the Big Daddy be quite fun on the groomers. they all perform well in softer snow but nearly all fat skis are good where they are meant to be skied.

190cm Atomic Big Daddy(soft you will man handle it soft skis forget the lenghts)
183cm or 193cm Atomic Sugar Daddy
184cm Atomic Snoop Daddy

183cm or 190cm Volkl Gotamas no better ski for going mach schnell in soft snow conditions. Skis short think about the 190s
184cm Volkl Mantra gain some groomer edge quickness for some loss of powder snow performance

186 Line Prophet 100 Never skied them but have skied the mothership one of the best early fat ski ever made

179cm or 189cm K2 Seth Vicious happy easy going park/groomer/powder ski. Not much of crud ski like the beefier "German" skis.

I dont like the french skis, they just dont feel good but alot of people do liek the legend pros from dynastar.

outta of everything listed my 2 favorites skis would be the 183 Atomic Sugar Daddies(which i own in short lenght captian strato please trade me...) and 183 Volkl Gotamas(which I own). The atomics have better hard snow performance while the Volkl are better in powder and crud.I am starting to sound like pall parrot on here about fat longer skis. You dont need them but they sure help in steep and deep terrain. also the entire board here is going to tell you go to shorter than me, thats fine short skis have there place(I own several) but for freeriding big mountains Long and fat is the way to go. Let them ski there short skis at 20 mph constantly fighting between going over the handlebars and leaning in the back seat. Me I like the pressure the front of ski and turn. Not worry about whether or not I am going ot end up tumbling down the hill.
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If I were young and a racer, I would probably go for the Head iM 82. Plenty of ski for big snow, but can handle groomed quite well too.
Ditto, also consider the Volkl AC4 if you like a stiff & damp feel. For a skier at a 165 lbs, these two models will provide as much float in powder as my superfat (I'm 220 Plus). No need for a fat ski for what you describe.

Cheers,

Michael
post #8 of 15
I'm kind of thinking the same thing AC4 170cm maybe 177cm. When my x-racer son now 19y/o demoed them, he like them almost as much as the Pocket Rockets in soft snow. I have a pair in 170cm and enjoy them. I don't detune and have to watch the tips, very quick to engage. I'm 190lbs 52y/o.
post #9 of 15
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Originally Posted by D(C) View Post
I may be taking a trip to Whistler this winter, which is great because I get to buy a new pair of skis! My background, I'm a 21 year old racer and coach. I'm 5'8" 165.

What would be my idea ski for a place like Whistler? I want to be able to ski everything, from powder to trees to groomed. I'm used to race stock skis on ice, so the ski needs to be able to hold an edge on hard stuff. The question is, how fat should I go and how long should I go? Are there any specific models worth checking out?
Are you really going to buy new skis for one trip? Are you really going on the trip? What will the weather/snow be like at Whistler when (if) you go? Do you want to use this new pair of skis anywhere besides Whistler?

These are very important questions because you are getting suggestions that range from hard snow carving tools to big fat powder skis. Why don't you give us an idea of your normal skiing needs, then tell us when you are going to be in Whistler. (It is usually a very different place in say early January vs. late February)

If you will ski at a small eastern or midwestern resort for 90% of your ski days in the next few years, it makes little sense to buy a big fat ski for a weeklong trip only to find the snow bony when you get there. Look to something that will give you satisfaction in a general sense.

SJ
post #10 of 15
PMGear Bros, they would own as an everyday ski.

Check them out at pmgear.com or search on here or tetongravity.com/forums
post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by SierraJim View Post
Are you really going to buy new skis for one trip? Are you really going on the trip? What will the weather/snow be like at Whistler when (if) you go? Do you want to use this new pair of skis anywhere besides Whistler?

These are very important questions because you are getting suggestions that range from hard snow carving tools to big fat powder skis. Why don't you give us an idea of your normal skiing needs, then tell us when you are going to be in Whistler. (It is usually a very different place in say early January vs. late February)

If you will ski at a small eastern or midwestern resort for 90% of your ski days in the next few years, it makes little sense to buy a big fat ski for a weeklong trip only to find the snow bony when you get there. Look to something that will give you satisfaction in a general sense.

SJ

I have my race skis and I'm very happy with them for conditions here in Quebec. If I got new skis for this trip, they would also be used for trees, powder days and Jay Peak around here. But also, I would want to be able to ski everything at Whistler, including some cruisers. So I don't think I want to go too too fat.

Is there a huge difference between an 80 mmm and 90 mm ski on groomed? I do not have much experience with wider skis. I know that an 80 waist feels okay and can carve some nice turns. Will it handle somewhat deeper stuff as well?
post #12 of 15
Sure there is a difference between 80 and 90 mm. What you should get will depend upon what you want to accomplish with it. Given your background and the fact that you have been skiing Northeastern powder on race skis, we know that you can handle yourself.

Since you have your race skis already, I'd suggest a mid fat like a Volkl AC-4 or Nordica Jet fuel. Both of these are wide enough to handle pretty deep snow, but not so wide that that they are sluggish in the conditions that you will see over 90% of the time. These models have enough grip and enough shape to hold like a club racer ski, and will put some excitement into a groomed run.

Later on, if you are someplace where snow drops are measured in feet rather than inches, you may want to add something really fat. For now, it is not necessary.

SJ
post #13 of 15
I'd suggest going with the Head Monster 88 or 82. The 88 is basically a GS ski with 20mm added to the width. Skis very much like a GS ski, you just give up some quickness edge to edge. The construction is even the same as Head's race skis.
I haven't skied the 82 yet, but I've heard it's very similar, I've heard one description that its almost like a slalom ski in shorter lengths - quite quick and nimble, although to be fair that was from someone who could probably make a 215cm DH ski act like a slalom if he really wanted to.
post #14 of 15
Another vote for the Head iM82 or iM88, both awesome Whistler skis.

The added advantage of these two skis is that they are sandwich construction, both have a good degree of torsional stiffness, which means you will be able to lay them over and get those edges to hold on the groomers!

Alternatively the Head Mojo90 and Volkl Karma's are also great Whistler skis.
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Dynastar Legend Pro Rider.
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