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sleeping in a car in the parking lot of ski area?

post #1 of 29
Thread Starter 
Is this allowed/acceptable? While there are some hostels near places that I want to ski in NY and VT, the cost of lodging for one person near most resorts is too high and I'd rather spend money on equipment and the skiing itself.
post #2 of 29
Probably depends on the area? Plattekill joked in their latest e-mailings: "There are already Powderhounds camping out in the parking lots, and the snow continues to dump. leave NOW! You can camp in our parking lot and help us plow in the morning."
post #3 of 29
Thread Starter 
I saw that and it gave me some hope... I have been wondering for a while, though. It would save on the early morning fight through the snow on powder days as well...
post #4 of 29
many areas allow RV's to park in their lower lots- so you should be OK in your car down there- I wouldn't park in the closest lot, move away and be discrete and all should be fine- it has always worked for me-

DO NOT build a snow cave in or near the parking lot snow banks- others have been killed doing this- the plow comes by, adds snow or collapes your cave and that is that-
post #5 of 29
Mad River Glen parking lot turned into a small city last weekend with their Telefest. While not officially endorsed by the mtn, camping is tolerated.
post #6 of 29
Never mind everything else but what to do with the cold. What do you people use to stay warm besides sleeping bags?
post #7 of 29
Thread Starter 
Just a sleeping bag rated for the cold. You can also set an alarm for halfway through the night, start up the car until the interior heats up, and then turn it off for the rest of the night.
post #8 of 29
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Originally posted by aschir01:
Just a sleeping bag rated for the cold. You can also set an alarm for halfway through the night, start up the car until the interior heats up, and then turn it off for the rest of the night.
Heeh, it would take my Grand Am about an hour to cool off at Whiteface, and no alarm was necessary!
~shivvvver~

Make sure you have plenty to eat- you may even need a snack during the night. And put a canteen in the bag with you.
post #9 of 29
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Originally posted by Euclide:
Never mind everything else but what to do with the cold. What do you people use to stay warm besides sleeping bags?
I have a -20 degree F NF bag. Very warm. I use a heavy moving blanket against the carpet in the back of my car, then a closed cell foam pad, and then a thermorest self inflating pad, and then a comforter on top of that which I wrap around my bag. Very warm. I have slept all the way down to -15 comfortably.

Also, I have a dog with me. When its cold, she lays right up against me.

Also, I have a dark sheet that runs on bungee cords across the seatbacks so that it is private, and deeply tinted windows. Nobody can see in unless they press their face against the glass, or I turn on a light. So I can pretty much park and sleep anywhere that I want.


nate
post #10 of 29
I've done this with friends at Whistler in the summer. In the winter they don't allow cars to stay through the night in the free lots, but in the summer when there are less people there were many besides us that were also camping out.
(sleeping bags on the ground, no tents)
post #11 of 29
Thread Starter 
cool setup, nate
post #12 of 29
I had to leave my car in the Sugarbush parking lot after a big dump. They clear the lot. No exceptions. First thing they would do is put a chain on the car's bumper and tow the car away with a huge machine. The bumper would come off about half the time. Then they would climb down fron their machine and hook onto an axle. Very efficent operation.
post #13 of 29
I can remember sleeping in the parking lot at Aspen Highlands. Spent the night in the car on Rabbit Ears Pass once. Set up a tent next to the parking lot at Targhee many years ago. Last year a snow cave a couple guys had dug into the snowbank at Stratton (I think) collapsed on them while a front loasder was being used to clear the parking lot. Both died, as I recall.

Be careful.
post #14 of 29
heh, my outback is definately better than my old jeep.
Many nights in the Killington lot with 2 layers, mummy bag, and a soft top.
definately no alarm necessary.
post #15 of 29
And I thought I loved to ski! I can't hold a candle to you hardcores that are willing to rough it out in the parking lot. Must be a long night , Lifts close at 4. You get something to eat hang around, you still have 10-12 hrs to wait out till the lifts run again.

I think the area should give you a ticket discount for representing the true zen and spirit of skiing.
post #16 of 29
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Originally posted by roundturns:
I think the area should give you a ticket discount for representing the true zen and spirit of skiing.
Nope, mostly gotta worry about a ticket for tresspassing.

However as spring comes on most places get more liberal in their restrictions.

Check out this thread for my experiences.
post #17 of 29
i remember reading that @ killington there is only 1 parking lot that they let you sepnd the night in. you also have to call them that day and tell them you will be spending the night so the cops don't bother you
post #18 of 29
On my return from Colorado next month, I plan on spending the evening in the Denver Airport. My flight leaves in the morning at 7 AM. Shuttle from Vail won't allow me to make it so I'm taking the last shuttle out 7PM the night before. Last year I missed the last shuttle out of the airport because of flight delays and spent the night in the Denver Airport waiting for the morning shuttle. All the benches have arm posts that eliminate being able to stretch out. I had my ski tube and ski bag 30 feet away from me in front of the shuttle desk and security came by and was getting ready to move it.
Everybody thinks I'm nuts to sit at th airport, but for the price of a hotel room I could get some nice ski gloves or goggles or something of lasting value.
So by comaparison I'm spending 8-9 hours in a climate controlled building with rest room facilities and a Burger King and a Pizza Hut up the steps in the food court.
Pretty weak by comparison isn't it to the sleeping bag parking lot setup.
post #19 of 29
Nice thread, brings back memories for old guys like me consigned to slightly more cushy accommodations these days. During a solo spring break roadtrip from Virginia to Colorado in the 1970s I slept a lot in a VW bug, including a few nights in parking lots close to lifts at Vail and Snowmass. I imagine there's not much chance of doing that these days? At Snowmass I hung out in a movie theatre until bedtime. The old love bug was not a great vehicle for sleeping, couldn't stretch out, aircooled rear engine didn't heat up fast for 3am warm-ups, but it drove well in snow and got me there and back-slowly.
post #20 of 29
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Originally posted by Jamesj:
was not a great vehicle for sleeping, couldn't stretch out, aircooled rear engine didn't heat up fast for 3am warm-ups, but it drove well in snow and got me there and back-slowly.
Wait a minit. You didn't have the gas-powered heater unit, conveniently crash-positioned above the passengers' knees?
post #21 of 29
Quote:
Originally posted by aschir01:
Is this allowed/acceptable? While there are some hostels near places that I want to ski in NY and VT, the cost of lodging for one person near most resorts is too high and I'd rather spend money on equipment and the skiing itself.
Never slept in the ol' car? Of course its acceptable! Just drive a crappy car and don't let the passenger drink too much PBR or it will stink up the joint. I can vouch for just about every Northwest ski mt., but have only experienced Jay Peak's finest parking lot out here in the NE -not trying to be offensive but I'm surprised people even ask about these things in New England...this place is a little gets a little uptight with this ice skiing and all.....Just act startled and move on when asked; you'll be fine. P.S., the logging trucks start at about 6 a.m at the bottom of the access road at kicking horse.
post #22 of 29
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Originally posted by roundturns:
On my return from Colorado next month, I plan on spending the evening in the Denver Airport. All the benches have arm posts that eliminate being able to stretch out.
Roundturns in the main concourse near the "A" side of the terminal there are benches without arms, at least there used to be.
post #23 of 29
FIAT 128 wagon with reclining seats.
Didn't have to worry about running the engine. The rust holes let fresh air in.

Hey uglymoney, got any snow left?
post #24 of 29
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Originally posted by SLATZ:
FIAT 128 wagon with reclining seats.
Didn't have to worry about running the engine. The rust holes let fresh air in.

Hey uglymoney, got any snow left?
All gone. Everything locked up around here. Sundown in Iowa had to close a week early due to rain and snowmelt. Chestut made their close (much better base built up), but I skipped the last weekend. Friends told me it was just a mess from all the abuse mother nature passed out in early March.

Went waterskiing last night. 60 degree F air and 43 degree water. Managed to get three sets in before becoming chilled. So the season shift has arrived for me. Time to wax the snow skis and put em on the rack I'm afraid. I put away the the petex and wax, and get out the epoxy and fiberglass for waterski repair.

Pretty warm in Colorado, so I doubt I will be taking a May trip to ski A-Basin.

It looks like it is all about waterskiing for the next few months.

nate
post #25 of 29
Tyrol's calling it quits this weekend.
post #26 of 29
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Originally posted by SLATZ:
Tyrol's calling it quits this weekend.
They made it this far?

Amazing considering the weather. I looked at their website just now, and they do seem to have quite a bit of snow on the webcam. Are those snowmakers out on the runs?

I suppose it was cold enough to make some snow earlier this week. Suprised that they would though.

nate
post #27 of 29
I've been sleeping in Tahoe parking lots occasionally for years. My current pass resort allows such in an out of the way lot. But no camping. In other words, RV types cannot set up there usual pile of junk outside their vehicles. In the early 80' pretty legit but many resorts began clamping down on the ski bums. Of course there is always a considerable pressure from local town's hotel/motel people to not allow such and force people into their often over-priced places. Vagrancy laws prior to the mid 70's were rare but all the growing popularity of RV's forced that to change. One nice thing is that on a stormy night, one's car windows are so snow and fogged up someone outside can't possible see what is going on inside if you keep lights off and are quiet.
post #28 of 29
Don't plan on doing it in avalanche terrain. Both Alta and Snowbird's parking lots are off limits due to cars getting trashed by slides (storms or no storms). If your in your car during one of these, your toast, then the rescuers are at risk digging your carcus out.

I've done it in many other ski area parking lots.
post #29 of 29
uglymoney
I just got an e-mail that they're open Sunday only. It's raining right now but it's supposed to be nice from here on.
Alta
My first and only trip to Little Cottonwood Canyon in 1974 I saw a guy digging his VW out of a snowbank. It was late April and he said he'd lost it at Christmas time and had just now found it.
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