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post #31 of 55

Oh, the pain, the pain (Dr Smith, from Lost in Space)

I was SOOOO bummed to hear about Tony's injury from cgeib, by phone, shortly after it happened. Tony and I have worked together off and on, and have crossed paths many times since we first met in Kirkwood, where he came to teach on our staff back in about '83.

I just got off the phone with Tony, and he seems to be resting somewhat comfortably at home. His surgery resulted in the same rod being implanted with screws, as I and several others have mentioned.

He and I discussed the similarities in our two incidents, and found them to be almost identical! We both were on fairly short skis, with identical boots. Both making left turns, when the inside ski got hung up- twisting under the outside ski and then catching the edge.

In my case, the leg broke before I fell, actually just as the binding released. I didn't get a feel from Tony whether that timing was duplicated in his case. But I would assume it was similar from his description of the fall.

So- to answer the question many are asking on this thread, it is the abrupt stop that shears the bone, not necessarily the ensuing fall. And yes, higher DIN settings may have played a contributing role. I normally use a 13 DIN, but since have dropped to an 8. But I do know that as my leg heals to full strength, it will go back up.

I do not know what DIN Tony uses, but I would guess it's fairly high as well. He is an incredibly powerful, aggressive skier. And you can rest assured that one day he will return to the same level of performance.

He and I also discussed the benefits of immediate PT, and not letting the rest of the body go to hell while waiting for the leg to heal. I have no doubt it contributed to my being back on skis in just less than 9 months. But to expect Tony back this season, though possible, is unlikely. I was pleasantly suprised when the Drs gave me the all clear to go to Argentina, with the caveat of "use good common sense".

I wish Tony as quick and painless recovery as I had, and I know he'll be just as excited to put the boards back on again as I was!

(As a side note.... Tony also expressed a desire to learn to fly during our conversation... is this a trend? )

Good Luck, buddy!
post #32 of 55
Good luck and a speedy recovery to Tony.


Here is the result of too low of a DIN Setting (8)


post #33 of 55
Lucky, are we comparing hardware again?
post #34 of 55
You show me yours and I'll show you mine. I must have had a cheap doc. he used stainless instead of titanium.
post #35 of 55
Stainless steel is fine but titanium is strong and light weight.
Does this mean you're heavy handed?
post #36 of 55
Damn. That's about the worst news in awhile. I haven't met him, but this is a guy who apparently combines high performance attitude, high performance skills, and high performance humanity to such a degree that his reputation really precedes him.

I was really hoping to see his magic this year.

Best wishes for quick and full healing, Tony!
post #37 of 55
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Stainless steel is fine but titanium is strong and light weight.
Does this mean you're heavy handed?

I'm as light as a mosquito on a pond. I don't want to hijack this thread.
post #38 of 55
Well, Lucky!
If you can heal, and Mr Trekchick can heal, then we are the encouragement for Tony, who will heal too!
post #39 of 55
I'd bet Toni will be back on skis by April.
post #40 of 55
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I'd bet Toni will be back on skis by April.
I bet he'll be back on skis by the end of January.
What are you going to put on the line? I like chocolate!
post #41 of 55
Dark or light?
post #42 of 55
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I'd bet Toni will be back on skis by April.
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I bet he'll be back on skis by the end of January.
What are you going to put on the line? I like chocolate!
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Dark or light?
Lucky, you in?
I bet He'll be back on the slopes by the end of January, Special Dark Chocolate.
post #43 of 55
Thread Starter 
I spoke with Toni yesterday afternoon. He has been fitted with a walking cast now and should be up and about in a few days, well on the way to recovery. He's invested in new workout equipment to keep up his already phenomenal fitness, and if all goes well, he hopes to ski again by February.

Weems--if there's anyone who embodies mastery of the four facets of your diamond, it's Toni. He has brilliant days skiing even now, as he practices through visualization. What an inspiration!

Best regards,
Bob
post #44 of 55
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I'm still curious about the setting.
Yes what was the DIN and what was the binding. round turns on a green and an over the handlebars fall and you end up with that kind of break......sounds like equipment failure.

Best wishes for a speedy recovery
post #45 of 55
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Yes what was the DIN and what was the binding. round turns on a green and an over the handlebars fall and you end up with that kind of break......sounds like equipment failure.

Best wishes for a speedy recovery
Sounds like a Marker to me.
post #46 of 55
I was chatting with this rather charming gentleman at the Rec Center. Turned out to be none other than Toni Sears. He is in good spirits, working hard on his rehab, and hopes to be skiing by February. He told me that he was blow away by all the well wishers on Epic.

He'll be in New Zealand for part of the summer, then, in August, he will be Portillo at the same time I am teaching my fitness week.

If you ever get a chance to chat with this inspiring person, do so!
post #47 of 55
Bob please send my best to your friend Tony. I hope his recovery is very speedy and as pain free as possible.
post #48 of 55
Best wishes to Tony and a full and speedy recovery.
post #49 of 55
Spoke to him again today. He was hoping for February, but his docs say no.:

On the other hand, if anyone embodies the positive spirit, it's Toni. He comes up to the gym on crutches, works out on the bike and rowing machine, and does a heavy duty upper body workout. Today, he was even walking around the gym without his crutches.

For an encore, he supports himself by his crutches, holds his back perfectly straight, lifts his feet off the floor, bends his knees and brings them to his chest. Neddless to say, I was completely blown away! Shows you what a good attitude can do!
post #50 of 55
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newfydog... since he was on race skis and boots I would guess it was a combination of a very stiff boot combined with high DIN setting. If you stop in your tracks with this setup I would guess your bones will give before the binding does.
I was in a race camp with a top NorAm racer. His DIN setting for slalom skis was 30. Which is about 10 higher than actual crucifixion--a backward twisting fall would pull a nail out, but not release that binding.

One problem with really high DIN settings is that the bones and ligaments have their own rating in Newtons of force before release that may be lower.
post #51 of 55
sfdean-
I'm just curious...

Did you actually see that DIN 30 setting with your own eyes, or did he say that...
I coached WC skiers for 10 years, and have worked for Marker since 1979. I have never seen or heard of any binding (any brand) which had a DIN higher than 24....

But I agree, a Din 30 would just about rip your leg off!
post #52 of 55
Best wishes to Tony for a speedy recovery. He's a great, great skier, come back to HunTAH, stay away from that powdery snow and get some longer skis, real men don't use those short things.
post #53 of 55
He's ours! You can't have him!

Welcome to Epic, BTW!
post #54 of 55
Thread Starter 

And He's Back!

Great news--Toni Sears is back on skis as of today. I skied a couple runs with him at Keystone, and he already looks like the awesome skier he was before the injury. It's still a bit sore, but his grin was a whole lot bigger than his grimace!

It will be a while, I'm sure, before he's 100% and willing to trust it at full speed, but it sure is great to see Toni back on the snow.

Congratulations, Toni, on beating all the physicians' predictions by a month and a half!

Best regards,
Bob
post #55 of 55
That is good news Bob. Get that confidence level up Toni. I've been there. The first day back has all kinds of thoughts racing through the mind.
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