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post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
g'day everyone I have just planned and booked my first ski trip to usa/can for 21st jan to 8th feb. I am staying a week in whistler and then flying to reno to spend another week at south lake tahoe and finally moving on to frisco to spend another week around that area.
Travelling by myself so hope to meet alot of new friends on my trip around.
The only thing up in the air at the moment is the last week in frisco ok here is the question
I have 5 ski days available to me in that area what places would you say to ski.i am a intermediate skier if that helps
Christ i am keen to get over their and see plenty of the white stuff.as the aussie season was basically terrible
post #2 of 13
By frisco, I assume you mean Frisco, CO. If so, you'll have many choices close by such as Breck, Copper, Keystone, with several other choices just a tad further away (Vail, Beaver Creek, Winter Park, etc).

All of these resorts have a ton of intermediate terrain to keep you busy during your stay.
post #3 of 13
While you are in the US, I will be in Australia visiting my sister who now lives in Sydney. Anyways, being that you are an intermediate skier and looking to meet up with new friends and such, from Frisco (hopefully not San) I would head over to Breck/Copper for 2/3 days and up to Vail/BC for the remainder of the time. Breck and Vail both have decent nightlife with cool bars and such. Don’t know about Copper or Beaver Creeks nightlife though...Like coach said, any place around the Frisco area will adhere to your skiing ability, but as far as nightlife and social aspects, my votes are Breck/Vail.
post #4 of 13
Copper 5 miles: 2 days.
Keystone 15 miles: 1 day
Vail 20 miles: ??
Beaver 30 miles: 1 day
Skip Breck (for solid intermediates, only 4-6 good runs).
ABasin, never been there but it's famous!
Loveland 20 miles: 1 day.
post #5 of 13
My recommendations:

Vail: 2 days (or better yet 3 days at Vail, or 2 days at Vail and 1 at Beaver Creek, with no days at Breck or Keystone)
Breckenridge or Keystone: 1 Day (I'd pick Breckenridge)
Copper Mountain: 1 Day
A-Basin: 1 Day

In my opinion Vail is the best ski area near Frisco. It is also usually less crowded than ski areas in Summit County (e.g., Copper, Breck, etc.) due to two factors: (1) it's further from Denver, and (2) it isn't mobbed out with season-pass holders like Copper and the rest. If you are lucky enough to hit a powder day while in Frisco, be sure to spend it at Vail. You are travelling a long way for skiing, so I would go for the best you can get. After you've skied Vail, the areas in Summit County might be a little disappointing, unless snow conditions are bad, in which case they may all be at least a little disappointing. It's a half-hour drive from Frisco to Vail, Accomodation in Frisco is much cheaper than Vail, and the drive isn't that bad. Hit A-Basin or Copper during the weekday to avoid crowds.
post #6 of 13
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Originally Posted by aussiesnowlover View Post
g'day everyone I have just planned and booked my first ski trip to usa/can for 21st jan to 8th feb. I am staying a week in whistler and then flying to reno to spend another week at south lake tahoe and finally moving on to frisco to spend another week around that area.
Travelling by myself so hope to meet alot of new friends on my trip around.
The only thing up in the air at the moment is the last week in frisco ok here is the question
I have 5 ski days available to me in that area what places would you say to ski.i am a intermediate skier if that helps
Christ i am keen to get over their and see plenty of the white stuff.as the aussie season was basically terrible
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Here's a suggestion: instead of Frisco, go to Glenwood Springs. First, if you're driving, there's no passes to cross between Reno and Glenwood to be concerned with being closed due to adverse conditions. Secondly, Glenwood is about equidistant between Aspen and Vail.

Some places available to ski
  • Aspen Mountain - considered a relatively hard mountain, no green trails
  • Aspen Highlands - the really hard mountain in Aspen
  • Buttermilk - generally a beginner/intermediate mountain - because of that, keeps powder longer than the other 3
  • Snowmass - about 10 miles from Aspen, huge mountain, over 3,000 acres and 4.000 vertical feet
  • Sunlight - the local hill in Glenwood
  • Beaver Creek
  • Vail

If you're staying in Glenwood, the excellent bus system (RFTA) will get you to any of the Aspen resorts. For Beaver Creek and Vail, it's about 1 to 1-1/2 hours east (with no mountain passes to cross). Glenwood is also the home of one of the largest public hot springs in the western United States, plus the Yampa Steam Caves.
post #7 of 13
I think Aussiesnow lover may have picked the right spot in Frisco. Glenwood Springs is a long way from Vail and Aspen, which means at least two hours more each day spent travelling between acccommodation and ski areas. The drive between Glenwood Springs and Aspen can be slow-going and nerve-wracking because of traffic, especially when it's snowing . Vail pass rarely closes, and if it should, the worst that will happen is getting stuck skiing the pow-pow at Copper or somewhere else on the east side of the pass. On the other hand, the hot springs and pool in Glenwood Springs are very nice, and Aspen has exceptional ski areas that are better than anything in Summit County.
post #8 of 13
Thread Starter 
thanks for the tips i will be skiing at vail definately for 3 days and probably copper.what about steamboat it looks good just not sure how far away it is and how easy the drive would be.
I skiied hakuba in japan earlier this year,we skiied happo-one and hakuba 47/goruya just wondering how these mountains compare to vail/copper and so on if anybody has skiied their
thanks again
post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by aussiesnowlover View Post
g'day everyone I have just planned and booked my first ski trip to usa/can for 21st jan to 8th feb. I am staying a week in whistler and then flying to reno to spend another week at south lake tahoe and finally moving on to frisco to spend another week around that area.
Travelling by myself so hope to meet alot of new friends on my trip around.
The only thing up in the air at the moment is the last week in frisco ok here is the question
I have 5 ski days available to me in that area what places would you say to ski.i am a intermediate skier if that helps
Christ i am keen to get over their and see plenty of the white stuff.as the aussie season was basically terrible

Be forwarned: US airport "security" is absolute hell. Just awful.
Don't let it ruin your trip.

Looks like a great adventure - I would add Lake Louise for the jaw-dropping scenery (...and the skiing ain't bad, either!).

If you're a single guy you're going to love Whistler's nightlife. And if you're single woman you're going to love Whistler's nightlife!

(Sorry, can't tell from your post, too lazy to check your profile.)
post #10 of 13
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Be forwarned: US airport "security" is absolute hell. Just awful.
Don't let it ruin your trip.
I'm a foreigner working here in the states and travel abroad a lot for business and security ain't that bad if you know the drill. Take everything out of your pockets and put them in your carry on before entering the x-ray machine, including your belt. Have shoes in hand. Will save lots of time with unnecessary pat-downs. And pray that you dont get "SSSS" stamped on your boarding pass at check in Smile...

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Looks like a great adventure - I would add Lake Louise for the jaw-dropping scenery (...and the skiing ain't bad, either!).
I concur, absolutely gorgeous


Good info on here for my upcoming Colorado trip.
post #11 of 13
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I'm a foreigner working here in the states and travel abroad a lot for business and security ain't that bad if you know the drill. Take everything out of your pockets and put them in your carry on before entering the x-ray machine, including your belt. Have shoes in hand. Will save lots of time with unnecessary pat-downs. And pray that you dont get "SSSS" stamped on your boarding pass at check in Smile...
It isn't just that routine, it is:

the extra-long lines it creates,
(unbearable - it's like flying People's Express in the eighties)

the attitude of some of the gung-ho security staff
(Announced, several times, to crowd in smart-ass "jokey" tone: "You might be able to get away with things in your home countries but in the USA we have the ultimate in detection...")

the stupidity of some of the staff
(forcing a mother to wake her 11-month old baby and remove baby's tiny sweater so security can check for bombs!)

The worst thing is if you spend much time in US airports (I spend way more than I want to) you constantly see ridiculous breeches of security that go totally unchecked. Lost passengers wander through high-security zones, people looking for luggage going out onto the tarmac, etc, etc.
Let's not even get into the "explosives sniffing" machines that don't work...

You know, since 9-11 there have been an incredible number of complaints against airport security staff by other airport workers, so inept are some of these security people.

Security is very important but when even the layperson can see it isn't working but is costing billions of dollars, it's just frustratingly laughable.


OK, rant over. It's a sore spot for me! :
post #12 of 13
I travel fairly often, almost always connecting through Hartsfield-Jackson Airport in Atlanta (one of the busiest airports in the world), and have never seen/heard any of the above trangressions that OldSchool claims (people wandering out onto the tarmac to look for luggage?) to have seen. Obviously, $10 per hour is not going to attract brillant people, but I think they (the TSA agents) try to do their best and keep the security lines moving. It's certainly arguable whether current security measures are effective. However, I find the agents charged with enforcing them to be, on balance, reasonable people. I seriously doubt that airport security will impact your vacation. Enjoy.
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I travel fairly often, almost always connecting through Hartsfield-Jackson Airport in Atlanta (one of the busiest airports in the world), and have never seen/heard any of the above trangressions that OldSchool claims (people wandering out onto the tarmac to look for luggage?) to have seen. Obviously, $10 per hour is not going to attract brillant people, but I think they (the TSA agents) try to do their best and keep the security lines moving. It's certainly arguable whether current security measures are effective. However, I find the agents charged with enforcing them to be, on balance, reasonable people. I seriously doubt that airport security will impact your vacation. Enjoy.
First - you wouldn't likely see anything while you're travelling, because you're either in a seat or in a line. I've seen these things waiting for delayed flights, etc.

And I'm not "claiming" anything: why don't you roll on down to DFW airport and watch people sticking cards and pencils through the wrong side of security doors so the motion detector on the other side will open them. Some people just pry it open a few inches by force and stick their hand through and wave - presto, open door.

I've seen people open those "ALARMED" doors - and nothing happens. I don't mean authorized people, either. It's insane. The alarm went off at my high school if you did that!

As for the infant who had her sweater removed to check for explosives - I know the mother very well. There's no doubt as to what happened.

I'm not saying the majority of security staff aren't great people, I'm not even saying most of the problems are the fault of the floor staff. I think the policies they have to follow are often ridiculous. And certainly they are way under-trained (and maybe underpaid, I don't know, but that shouldn't affect how they do their job).

I'm glad to see you're not convinced security measures are effective, though.

Billions and billions of dollars spent and five years later and the best they can do is check for bombs on a tiny 11 month-old baby carried by her petite doctor mother...that's just sad.
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