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Question about Plugs

post #1 of 8
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From what I understand a plug boot has more plastic and a smaller foot opening. The bootfitter grinds out the inside of the boot to fit the skiers foot. If someone has a wide foot(EEE), would a plug be a good choice given the bootfitters ability to grind out material to fit the foot?
post #2 of 8
You can only grind out so much material. Plugs are usually very narrow to begin with. You would probably have to stretch the shell first. Anything is possible with a good boot fitting shop.
post #3 of 8
Anything can be done, but you might have an easier time fitting a wider boot, like an Atomic RT CS, Nordica Dobermann 110/130, or Tecnica Diable Race 110/130. Those boots would probably fit you about as precisely as plug boots fit the average person. And they are all still built like the plug versions, with lots of plastic and thin liners. The widest is definitely the Atomic.
post #4 of 8
Our fitter recently made a pair of Dobies 110mm across the forefoot. It took about a month from start to finish, but they worked.
post #5 of 8
I agree with D(C). Maybe the semi-race boots are your best bet. I just bought the Nordica Hot Rod. I love the fit. It has the same last as the Dobie 130. It is shaped like a foot. I have a D width forefoot. I suppose it would work for wider feet (E-EEE) but it will require extensive bootwork.

If you have a very wide forefoot but you want the performance of a semi-race boot i would recommend the Atomic RT CS. The Atomic RT Ti has a wider forefoot than the Dobermann WC or Tecnica plug if you want a full plug. The CS has an even wider forefoot than the Ti.

With a very wide forefoot i believe every mm is important. That's why i recommend a very thin race liner to go with the semi-plug (if you decide to go with a semi-plug). Plug boots have very thin liners so there is no need to get another liner. IMO the semi-plug boot liners are not very thin. For example, the Hot Rod comes with Nordica's Performance Fit Liner which is the best liner they make (except for the WC 150 leather lace-up which is in a category of its own). That is the liner i recommend. It is the liner i have in my Hot Rods (the Tecnica plug liner to be more exact). Without it, i would not be able to stand in the boots for a few minutes. I got a race fit and the boot is unbearable with the stock liner. It helped me downsize and solve its problems: a slightly wider heel than would be appropiate for a boot of this caliber and a slightly higher instep than average. No more problems.

In your case i think that the Nordica leather lace-up liner would help you with a few mm's which could make a difference. It's the thinnest liner i have seen and it is much better than the Lange or Atomic race liners. IMO. The Nordica/Tecnica liner is very low volume compare to the Lange liner which is higher volume especially in the cuff.
post #6 of 8
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Originally Posted by sywsyw View Post
I agree with D(C). Maybe the semi-race boots are your best bet. I just bought the Nordica Hot Rod. I love the fit. It has the same last as the Dobie 130. It is shaped like a foot. I have a D width forefoot. I suppose it would work for wider feet (E-EEE) but it will require extensive bootwork.

If you have a very wide forefoot but you want the performance of a semi-race boot i would recommend the Atomic RT CS. The Atomic RT Ti has a wider forefoot than the Dobermann WC or Tecnica plug if you want a full plug. The CS has an even wider forefoot than the Ti.

With a very wide forefoot i believe every mm is important. That's why i recommend a very thin race liner to go with the semi-plug (if you decide to go with a semi-plug). Plug boots have very thin liners so there is no need to get another liner. IMO the semi-plug boot liners are not very thin. For example, the Hot Rod comes with Nordica's Performance Fit Liner which is the best liner they make (except for the WC 150 leather lace-up which is in a category of its own). That is the liner i recommend. It is the liner i have in my Hot Rods (the Tecnica plug liner to be more exact). Without it, i would not be able to stand in the boots for a few minutes. I got a race fit and the boot is unbearable with the stock liner. It helped me downsize and solve its problems: a slightly wider heel than would be appropiate for a boot of this caliber and a slightly higher instep than average. No more problems.

In your case i think that the Nordica leather lace-up liner would help you with a few mm's which could make a difference. It's the thinnest liner i have seen and it is much better than the Lange or Atomic race liners. IMO. The Nordica/Tecnica liner is very low volume compare to the Lange liner which is higher volume especially in the cuff.
The liner in the Atomic RT CS is pretty thin. I would suspect that you would be able to work with it. But yes, a thin liner will be your friend.
post #7 of 8
If the Nordica lace-up liner is the thinnest you've ever seen, you've never seen the liner out of a true Lange/Rossi plug. Those things may as well be socks.

That said, look for the Dolomite Z Rage 120. Its probably the highest performance wide (102mm) boot on the market.
post #8 of 8
Yes the Nordica/Tecnica lace-up liner found in the WC 150 and Diablo Race R (the boots available to consumers) is the thinnest liner I have ever seen. I am sure there is an even thinner liner Nordica makes for their racers. I already know that Tecnica makes a thinner liner than the model that comes with the Race R but that liner is usually not available to consumers. Most people probably don't need them.

I suspect the "true" Lange/Rossi plug is the boot used by their racers at the highest level of competition. I own the ZR liner which comes with the Lange WC 150 (the model available to consumers in high-end shops) and it is definitely higher volume than the Nordica/ Tecnica lace-up liner. I believe you are talking about a different liner which is probably available only for their racers.
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