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post #61 of 88

Honestly, I have yet to meet a ski I didn't like. I did buy the first generation Bluehouse Districts that didn't sell me as a powder ski, but I loved the mid 180 length, which lead me to sell all my 170ish gear

These days I am riding in no particular order:

Dynastar

Movement

Nordica

Praxis

PM Gear

I have a really nice quiver of skis

post #62 of 88

Sarner

Hexcel

Hagan

Spalding

Northland

 

Hahaha.

 

I'll seriously go with:

 

Head for SL, GS, and Downhill

Volkl for Powder

Nordica for all miountain cruisers

hart for bumps with honorable mention for Moment

K2 for all around value

Not sure about park skis, but needs to be there

post #63 of 88

Blizzard

Volkl

Elan

Line

Olin - for old times sake

post #64 of 88

Stockli

Fischer

Volkl

Nordica

Blizzard

Kastle

 

Not in any particular order.  Good skis, good materials, and good companies.

post #65 of 88

Ogasaka

Atomic

Head

post #66 of 88

This is my first post here, and hopefully it doesn't sound snooty, but dang, you guys need to expand your horizons beyond the mass produced stuff.  I haven't heard any of the companies that are in my top 5 mentioned yet in this thread:

 

ON3P

Moment

Scotty Bob

Voile

Icelantic

 

Seriously, these guys all make amazing skis at prices that compete with the big companies, but often have much better construction as they are hand made in the USA.

post #67 of 88
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This is my first post here, and hopefully it doesn't sound snooty, but dang, you guys need to expand your horizons beyond the mass produced stuff.  I haven't heard any of the companies that are in my top 5 mentioned yet in this thread:

 

ON3P

Moment

Scotty Bob

Voile

Icelantic

 

Seriously, these guys all make amazing skis at prices that compete with the big companies, but often have much better construction as they are hand made in the USA.



I love that you really believe that.....

 

Orange County Choppers on your radar too? 

post #68 of 88
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Not all that weird...............

Currently some Dynastars and Fischers have a somewhat similar personality although they vary quite a bit in the details.
I agree completely. That's why Dynastar/Fischer top my list of favorite ski brands, and it's not surprising to me that folks who like Dynastar like Fischer skis as well. Hence, my list:

1. Dynastar & Fischer
2. Head
3. Nordica

BTW--I'm still shaking my head over the Dynastar/Rossi comment made ealier in this thread. Despite common ownership, you'd be hard pressed to find 2 brands that ski with more different personalities than Dynastar and Rossi, IMO.

 

Same here - you couldn't get me to choose between Dynastar and Fischer for #1, but Head is definitely a very close second. I've had a lot of good experiences with Nordica too, but for some reason I've been favoring Dynastar and Fischer more in recent years.
 

post #69 of 88
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Ogasaka


Which Oggies?

post #70 of 88

How things change. My list when this thread started:
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In order of preference:

1) Volkl
2) Stockli
3) Fischer
4) Dynastar
5) Rossignol

And now, also in order of preference:

1) Kastle

2) Blizzard

3) Stockli

4) Rossignol

5) Prior

 

Only the Stockli's and Rossi's are hanging in there, although latter mainly for their racing skis that I still use and the fatties.
 

post #71 of 88

There is Stockli ... and ...

post #72 of 88



 

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I love that you really believe that.....

 

Orange County Choppers on your radar too? 



Huh.  Well, I believe that because I have skied dozens of different skis in the last few years.  So, my opinion is based on empirical observation.  It is kind of like this:  Why the hell would I spend 50.00 for a bottle of German riesling, when I can get a bottle of Oregon riesling for 20.00 that is arguably equal in quality, and certainly equal in enjoyment?  So, while I am proud to be an American, that isn't why I like buying handmade American skis. 

post #73 of 88

Fischer

Blizzard

Dynastar

Head

Volkl

 

post #74 of 88

I think Elan has to be on the list as a manufacturer, not just as a brand.  They press a lot of skis and boards there.

 

I think companies like ON3P, DPS, and PM Gear are doing some amazing things with their freeride designs, as well as custom layups for customers.

 

post #75 of 88

East:

 

Volkl

Fischer

Elan

Head

Storm

post #76 of 88

Well since its a list of skis I've skied in the last 5 years it has to be 

 

K2

Elan

Fischer

 

Those are the only 3 brands I've been on in the last 5 years so my list is short.

post #77 of 88

A blatant plug, but I have to throw Kneissl in the ring.  You guys need to try them when we go on our demo tour this year.  Other skis I've tried and like a lot:

 

Volkl

Blizzard

Nordica

Fischer

 

Mike

post #78 of 88

Tell us more about what Kneissel is up to these days. I have not seen them on the hill yet. start the buzz. What are they designing for powder, for a daily soft snow driver, for the Sierra and the Rockys snow and terrain? Where will they be made? Who is the target customer for various models? I'm stoked to hear about the current direction of Kneissel because they have been solid for such a long time.

 

post #79 of 88

I like this simple thread.   My favorite skis are based on real use for at least a week or two, the only demos were used for a week during the summer at a Mt. Hood race camp.

 

Backcountry

1) Ski Trab - wonderful made skis, old school flex

2) K2, Mt Baker super lite - downside is they do not last long and not good for intermediate skiers since they are too light for most folks

 

On Piste

A tie between Dynastar and Head (depending on model).

 

Racing

Based on sponsorship - seriously, Head make very nice SL and GS skis.  Oh yes, "the how fast do you ski thread".  Watch J1 or J2 FIS skiers on closed runs with multiple B-net fencing. 

 

Lastly, any ski i

post #80 of 88
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Originally Posted by mmckimson View Post

A blatant plug, but I have to throw Kneissl in the ring.  You guys need to try them when we go on our demo tour this year.  Other skis I've tried and like a lot:

 

Volkl

Blizzard

Nordica

Fischer

 

Mike


Mike, you're on.  I will try them when you're demoing at my hill.  I hope you make it.  And I'm not facetious.  I think this is a big problem for the ski manufacturers, that it's so hard to demo a pair of skis.  Even here, on Epic, there are very few skiers who've tried more than a handful of brands.  When it costs $40 a day to demo a decent pair of skis, it's simply prohibitive.  But I can't blame a local shop for charging this much - they have to. However, I do blame the manufacturers for not having their reps offering demos for free, or at very low cost, and roaming the resorts.  Look, if I can get a pair of skis for a whole day, that's a rental and I'm willing to pay for it, but if I can only get a pair of skis for an hour (1 or 2 runs), I'm doing you a favor by trying on your skis, and potentially becoming a buyer.

 

It's mind boggling to me how little the ski companies are doing to sell to an average Joe on the slope.

 

The current sales model in the ski industry is akin to the car dealerships asking about $1,000 for a test drive.  I can spend a weekend test-driving 5 or 6 brands of cars, and not spend a penny.  Granted, I didn't get anywhere, but I had a chance to test-drive a few cars.  In the ski industry, it would cost me ~$200 to do that.  I think it's a huge loss in market opportunity.    How does anyone expect me to part with $500 to $1,000 of my hard-earned-cash for a pair of skis, based on a magazine review?  In the end, I might, out of sheer desperation, but I wouldn't even know if this is the best ski for me.

 

I wouldn't even mind paying $50 for a "demo day" if I could try any ski in the stable throughout the day, provided it offered multiple brands, and I wouldn't have to drive 5 miles from the mountain to try a new pair.

 

 

Bottom line, manufacturers do very little to help sell their skis.

 

Again, I'd love to try me some Kneissl's.  And I do remember them as one of the top brands while I was learning to ski as a kid.

 

Mike, I hope you don't find this post as a personal attack, it's just a pet peeve of mine that demoing skis is too prohibitive.  Hopefully, you can take advantage of the marketing gap.

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #81 of 88

A personal attack?  You're way too nice!

 

Our sales model is decidely different than many of the other ski companies (a topic of discussion for another day), but suffice to say our demo program is important to us.  As a small company trying to carve out our niche in the market, the best way for us to ultimately build our business is to get our skis on people's feet.  While we don't have hundreds of pairs to send all other the country, we hope to have at least 10 - 15 demo weekends this next winter and hope that we see you on the hill.

 

Given our current ski lineup (more carving and frontside skis), we'll more than likely concentrate our efforts on the East Coast, where our skis have more appeal in the marketplace, although as a West Coast guy, we'll do it here as well.

 

Stay tuned!

 

Mike

post #82 of 88

I wanted to go try them at Winter Park last year.  Then I found out it was cxl'd.

post #83 of 88



 

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A personal attack?  You're way too nice!

 

Our sales model is decidely different than many of the other ski companies (a topic of discussion for another day), but suffice to say our demo program is important to us.  As a small company trying to carve out our niche in the market, the best way for us to ultimately build our business is to get our skis on people's feet.  While we don't have hundreds of pairs to send all other the country, we hope to have at least 10 - 15 demo weekends this next winter and hope that we see you on the hill.

 

Given our current ski lineup (more carving and frontside skis), we'll more than likely concentrate our efforts on the East Coast, where our skis have more appeal in the marketplace, although as a West Coast guy, we'll do it here as well.

 

Stay tuned!

 

Mike



Are you going to be part of the Northwest Demo-tour?

post #84 of 88
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I love that you really believe that.....

 

Orange County Choppers on your radar too? 

What would you have others believe?

 

post #85 of 88
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I wanted to go try them at Winter Park last year.  Then I found out it was cxl'd.



We made a decision not to participate at the SIA Winter Park demo as we didn't have enough demo stock available for the number of people who would be there.  We've had more success in one-on-one demos with our retail partners.

 

 

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Are you going to be part of the Northwest Demo-tour?


Don't have our schedule worked out yet, but it's a possibility.  Are you from the great PNW?

 

Mike
 

post #86 of 88
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Which Oggies?


I currently have the Truin SL. The quickest turning ski I have ever skied. Highly recommended.

post #87 of 88

Uh, curious where you actually bought them ^^^^. I was looking around a few years ago after reading some reviews in Ski Canada, and they didn't appear to have a U.S. distribution network, let alone a demo program. 

post #88 of 88

You can go to www.ogasaka-usa.com. If you call the number listed you will get Sean Campbell, he is the US Ogasaka rep. Once my skis arrived from Japan, he hand delivered them to the Pro Ski and Ride near Hunter Mtn. 
 

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Uh, curious where you actually bought them ^^^^. I was looking around a few years ago after reading some reviews in Ski Canada, and they didn't appear to have a U.S. distribution network, let alone a demo program. 

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