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My son's first skis

post #1 of 26
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So I just got back from the SOS ski swap here in Missoula, and I bought my son his first pair of skis. I'm pretty sure I got a great deal on these skis ($50) with bindings, but I am concerned that being race skis, they might be a bit difficult for him to start on.

So I ask the collective this, are these going to be too much for a never-ever 6 year old (he's 4'2" and around 60 lbs), or will he grow with them nicely? The skis (shown below) are Rossignol Golden Spirit Power Racing 8 in a 120.

How did I do? :


post #2 of 26
I think you'll be fine. The ski is not one of those laminate models for Jr. FIS kids. It's a cap ski and pretty easy going.

My kids used both the Cut model in a 150cm & a Jr Rossignol Dualtec type ski (not sure of the name exactly), with great results.

Cheers,

Michael

(What, no Spats... I couldn't resist!)
post #3 of 26
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Originally Posted by barrettscv View Post
I think you'll be fine. The ski is not one of those laminate models for Jr. FIS kids. It's a cap ski and pretty easy going.

My kids used both the Cut model in a 150cm & a Jr Rossignol Dualtec type ski (not sure of the name exactly), with great results.

Cheers,

Michael

(What, no Spats... I couldn't resist!)
Well that's the sort of thing I was hoping to hear. They are in really good shape both top and bottom. They don't look like they've been used much.

It's funny, the tips are wider than the ones on my Powerkarves.
post #4 of 26
They do look a bit much but more important would be the tune you put on them. I would think to increase the detune area along the contact areas a bit farther to the middles for a more forgiving engagement and release.
I think lenghth and tune is more important than specific type.
The boy will look great on those. The pride in cool skis will add to his enjoyment.

Now, what does he have for boots?
Boots for young ones would be a foreign world for me. But you got lots of folks here that have gone down this path recently.
post #5 of 26
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They do look a bit much but more important would be the tune you put on them. I would think to increase the detune area along the contact areas a bit farther to the middles for a more forgiving engagement and release.
I think lenghth and tune is more important than specific type.
The boy will look great on those. The pride in cool skis will add to his enjoyment.

Now, what does he have for boots?
Coincidentally and accidentally (or should I say sychronetically), he has Rossignol Comp-J boots. They match the bindings which are also Comp-J.
post #6 of 26
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Coincidentally and accidentally (or should I say sychronetically), he has Rossignol Comp-J boots. They match the bindings which are also Comp-J.
Poser: The boy is set
post #7 of 26
VA,

I'm happy for you. I don't know who I enjoy buying gear for more, me or my kids!

One advantage of the ski is that your child will learn to carve from day one. After teaching my kids to hockey stop, i had them put one ski on edge and showed then how its done. My oldest daughter started on straight skis and her carving skill is still a little less strong than the younger kids who learned on the rossi cuts.

One simple check I used to see if the ski was too long or stiff was to place the tips & tails on 4X4 and have the child stand on the ski. If the ski flexed easily, I knew the ski would carve. Overly stiff skis are more of a risk than softer models.

Cheers,

Michael
post #8 of 26
Looks like a good find. I'll be finding skis and boots for my son soon too.
Michael,
I take it you are not in the camp that would have kids pivoting wedge turns for a couple of years?
post #9 of 26
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Michael,
I take it you are not in the camp that would have kids pivoting wedge turns for a couple of years?
With the exception of the the one straight ski, all my kids have used carving skis. No twin tips either. I think kids will ski like their teachers or other role models. I taught them to carve and they seem to have followed my example. I have a picture of my 8 year old son carving a turn on his third day of skiing. His face is like : .

Cheers,

michael
post #10 of 26
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VA,

I'm happy for you. I don't know who I enjoy buying gear for more, me or my kids!

One advantage of the ski is that your child will learn to carve from day one. After teaching my kids to hockey stop, i had them put one ski on edge and showed then how its done. My oldest daughter started on straight skis and her carving skill is still a little less strong than the younger kids who learned on the rossi cuts.

One simple check I used to see if the ski was too long or stiff was to place the tips & tails on 4X4 and have the child stand on the ski. If the ski flexed easily, I knew the ski would carve. Overly stiff skis are more of a risk than softer models.

Cheers,

Michael
I have been enjoying buying him gear. In the past week here's the damage:

Skis/bindings $50
Boots $48
Goggles $12.99
Gloves $9.99
Parka $49.97
Bibs $15.92
Watching him stomp his foot and say "I WANT TO GO SKIING TOMORROW!" Priceless!

Too stiff was my concern, I'll try this test with him. They seem pretty soft to me, but I'm used to flexing adult skis. He's a pretty gung-ho type, and is growing rapidly, I think he'll probably do fine, I'll try to get him carving like you did with your son.
post #11 of 26
It is not too stiff. You have nothing to worry about.
post #12 of 26
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I neglected to mention before that a slight drawback to these skis was that they would need to be remounted, as whoever had them before had ridiculously large feet for this size ski. On the positive side, I didn't have to remount the toe, as the center mark on the ski matched up prfectly with the one on the boot, I just needed to move the heel forward 14mm (obviously, the previous owner had them mounted way behind center).

I measured, and measured, and measured, and marked, then wiped off the mark and cursed, and remeasured, and checked my measuring, then taped my bit, and then put the bit in my badass, high power Milwaukee drill.

Half crazed from sleep deprivation after two nights of 12 hour graveyard shifts, I set to work, and documented it for posterity. Buwahahahahah!




All went swimmingly well, and the job is done. Next project is cutting down some poles to fit my son. I can hardly wait to use my brand new tube cutter!
post #13 of 26
I see you multitask with your kitchen also being your ski workshop and garden center!!!!!!
post #14 of 26
VA with powertools, I'd never imagined the day. :
That is a real Tim the Toolman drill there guy.
Congrats on getting ready for the season with your son. He must be very excited about getting out after all this preparation.
post #15 of 26
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I see you multitask with your kitchen also being your ski workshop and garden center!!!!!!
Yes, and the ski vise is C-clamped to the desk my computer is on too.
post #16 of 26
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VA with powertools, I'd never imagined the day. :
That is a real Tim the Toolman drill there guy.
Congrats on getting ready for the season with your son. He must be very excited about getting out after all this preparation.
My son has yet to see the skis, I'm glad I could get them mounted before he saw them so he'd be able to put his boots on, and click in. Hopefully his mom will let him visit on thursday. I have a Warren Miller film providied by some generous and friendly bears, to stoke him further too.:

That drill is truely a beast, it's so heavy I didn't even have to press down. Stainless steel construction and made in the USA baby!
post #17 of 26
They may be a little big but he'll grow into them, the biggest problem with be you carrying 2 pairs of skis, those i imagine are too heavy for a 6 year old
post #18 of 26
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They may be a little big but he'll grow into them, the biggest problem with be you carrying 2 pairs of skis, those i imagine are too heavy for a 6 year old
The kid is almost as tall as my mom already. I think he may be up to the task .
post #19 of 26
My son started on his Rossi Vipers @ 120 when he was seven ... but he was a bit on the small side ...

They look just right.

post #20 of 26
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My son started on his Rossi Vipers @ 120 when he was seven ... but he was a bit on the small side ...

They look just right.

My son is bigger than some 11 year olds. I just hope his boots fit him through the season. I think he may get a couple years out of the skis though.
post #21 of 26
I'm sure you'll share pics of the big smile when his new skis meet the snow.
post #22 of 26
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They may be a little big but he'll grow into them, the biggest problem with be you carrying 2 pairs of skis, those i imagine are too heavy for a 6 year old
He should be fine carrying them in a Ski-Tote.
post #23 of 26
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He should be fine carrying them in a Ski-Tote.
Never! : I'll teach him to carry them over his shoulder properly. Fortunately, where I ski, one doesn't need to cover the better part of a mile to get to the lift/rope tow.

When I was a lad, I had to carry my own skis, and though I was a bit older when I started, my skis had no brakes to hold them together.

I actually had a Baracrafter Ski Grabber in the early '80s, but that was after I was pretty fully grown.
post #24 of 26
Hoped that the AAAA icon showed it was tongue in cheek eh!
post #25 of 26
I was shocked when I opened this thread. I was expecting a picture of a pair of shiny stainless steel skis.
post #26 of 26
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I was shocked when I opened this thread. I was expecting a picture of a pair of shiny stainless steel skis.
If they made steel capped Volants in a 120, you would have.
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