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Powder skis... what length?

post #1 of 14
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I'm looking at getting some powder skis this year, probably the Sugar Daddies, and am trying to figure out which length would work best for me. I'm 5'10" 200 lbs and an aggressive, ex-racer (level 9 or whatever the highest one is). I am assuming I'd want a little more length in a powder ski and am looking at the 183. Is that too long or too short? They also come in a 173 and 193.

It's easy to gauge my SL and GS boards, but I'm not so sure with the fatties... any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!

P.S. Any other skis out there outside of the Atomics that people like? Legend Pro's, Explosiv, Apache Chiefs, etc.? My other skis are all Atomic, but I'm always interested in hearing about other skis people think might be better.
post #2 of 14
Based on the boards you mention, it seems like you are looking for a midfat, all mountain ski. Powder skis imho are 100+++ mm underfoot for someone your size.

btw, I think the explosiv was replaced by the mantra which got rave reviews. I thought it was a tad too soft, but it looks like they fixed it for the 07 model. the 06 left a bad taste in my mouth though so I went for the Seth Vicious.
post #3 of 14
Where are you skiing? If you're looking at wide open bowls and big cliff drops, go with the 193. If most of your powder skiing will be done in the trees, go with the 183s.

Legend Pros and Head Supermojos would be other good choices if you like stiffer skis (or explosivs if you can find them), otherwise K2 Seths or Elan m999s if you like a softer ski.
post #4 of 14
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I ski most of the time in Oregon (Bachelor) which is pretty wide open, but also ski Utah once or twice a year, and Tahoe a few times a year (Squaw and Heavenly mainly).

I'm looking for a ski that will do well in powder and crud with medium length turns -- don't need them for hard pack days b/c I have my 9'20's and SL11s for that.

Any opinions on the Made'N AK's? I'm looking at these as well... thinking 179... I've heard the 189 is pretty heavy...
post #5 of 14
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Originally Posted by gdhyde View Post
I'm 5'10" 200 lbs and an aggressive, ex-racer (level 9 or whatever the highest one is). I am assuming I'd want a little more length in a powder ski and am looking at
200# & ex-racer makes me think you should be looking at the longest length available for a ski.

Some skis to look at a powder and crud ski

190 Volkl Gotama
191 Mantra
Atomic Big Daddys.
ANTs

I have the 194 LPs. There are great at crud, but I don't like the in pow very much. I'm 225#, so u may get a little more float out of them.

On TGR there a great thread that will give you a good idea on what your options are. The 1st post kept up to date based on everyone's feedback.

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=41028
post #6 of 14
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Originally Posted by gdhyde View Post
I ski most of the time in Oregon (Bachelor) which is pretty wide open, but also ski Utah once or twice a year, and Tahoe a few times a year (Squaw and Heavenly mainly).

I'm looking for a ski that will do well in powder and crud with medium length turns -- don't need them for hard pack days b/c I have my 9'20's and SL11s for that.

Any opinions on the Made'N AK's? I'm looking at these as well... thinking 179... I've heard the 189 is pretty heavy...
Made'n AKs are super soft, 179 would be a big mistake with those.
post #7 of 14
Thread Starter 
Soft, huh? In a good or bad way?

I tend to like a little stiffer ski, but that's mainly for groomers and hardpack.

If found some of last year's Made'N AK's (the black graphics) for $450 new and that's why I'm thinking about that route. Sounds like 189 would be the way to go...
post #8 of 14
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Soft, huh? In a good or bad way?

I tend to like a little stiffer ski, but that's mainly for groomers and hardpack.

If found some of last year's Made'N AK's (the black graphics) for $450 new and that's why I'm thinking about that route. Sounds like 189 would be the way to go...
If you're used to Atomic beef and bite, the Made'N AK's will disappoint you.

The Sugar's ski long. I'm 200 lbs, 6'1" and bought the Sugar 183's last year. They would have been great in open bowls and large areas. But in trees and short shots, I couldn't muscle them around quickly enough.

I actually traded down to the 173 Sugar's. But, I'm 50'ish, a non-racer, and mostly ski shorter, wooded runs (Mt. Baker).

I'd suggest the Sugars in 183. They ski like a 190 in any other brand. They're quick and ultra-smooth with great edge-hold when you need it.
post #9 of 14
Thread Starter 
How about the Pimp Daddy? Anyone with some time on those boards? Looks like the same dimensions as the Sugars but in a 190 length and a twin tip. Is that right?

Thanks for the feedback thus far!
post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by gdhyde View Post
How about the Pimp Daddy? Anyone with some time on those boards? Looks like the same dimensions as the Sugars but in a 190 length and a twin tip. Is that right?

Thanks for the feedback thus far!
I believe they were made in 183 cm and 193 cm, depending upon the year. But, as a twin-tip, they skied shorter.

A guy with your background would have no problem with the Pimps.

The 183 Sugar's are more ski than most people need. But if you want to go bigger and faster, both the Pimps and the Big Daddy's will do it.
post #11 of 14
The Legend Pro now has a big brother...the Legend Pro XXL...it is over 100mm at the waist but is still really stiff. My only complaint with the regular Pro was float in the really deep stuff. The Maden's are soft, if you like a stiffer ski they will feel almost noodle like but they ski great. Whatever you go with look towards some of the longer lengths.
post #12 of 14
I don't want to start a new thread, so sorry to hijack this one.

Are 177 Mantras the right length for 5' 9", 165 lb. me?
post #13 of 14
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I don't want to start a new thread, so sorry to hijack this one.

Are 177 Mantras the right length for 5' 9", 165 lb. me?
Yup!

170 will be squirrelly at speed. 184 will feel unwieldy. 177 - Perfect.
post #14 of 14
i'm 5'11' 185 and i ski the 177 Mantra. works fine (might be a tad...as in 2-3cm...short, but it was quick, nimble, busted crud, and didn't chatter at high speed)
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