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Kicking Horse Vs. Jackson Hole

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As with the beginning of every new ski season we find ourselves in the same situations yearly, where to go skiing this year? This year I am planning on taking a trip out west in mid Febuary with another family, we want to go together ( becus its usually cheaper) BUT they want to go to Kicking Horse while we wan't to go to JAckson Hole. Their arguments are they wan't to ski the "ridges" at KH but my opinion is that those ridges are very short and that it is kind of stupid that you have to go all the way down the mountain because there are only 2 lifts, on top of that, the bottom of the mountain is basically all beginner terrain, Secondly they want a village, my opinion is that that KH has a very crappy village comprised of like 2 hotels while JAckson's Teton village is actually respectable. Thirdly my argument AGAINST KH are -can be bad weather due to low altitude
-only basically 2 lifts
-very short ridges
-heard rumors that powder is "hard"
-small village
-terrain is very basic meaning like you can ONLY eaither ski the ridges and bowls at the top or the beginner bunny hills
-i saw videos of where top of mountain is in good condition and then rest is foggy barely any snow cover

Bitching aside, i think KH just needs a few more years *cough* decade *cough* and a couple dozen more million dollars to improve lifts and the terrain.

Jackson hole just seams more challenging although there still are runs for the moms in the families LOL, there are unbeatable views 500inches of snow vs 500cm (200inches), nice long runs, big alpine, backcountry the list is endless.

Plz share your thoughts, i will inevitably print this thread and show it to the other family because we must book soon

thnx for all the help.
post #2 of 13
In short, it would be an easy decision for me. I would drive (and have driven) 18 hours to ski at Jackson Hole. Kicking Horse, while it has some impressive vertical and the aforementioned ridges, does not measure up - either in snowfall, altitude, lifts or services. Speaking as someone who lives only a few hours away in Alberta, KH is a great place to visit for a couple of days (in combination with trips to either Louise, Sunshine, Panorama or other areas in the region) but to dedicate a whole week - no way! With Jackson, you've got all the vertical and terrain you could ever want, plus the option of a day trip or two to Targhee which, barring Alta/Snowbird in Utah, makes the region one of the best one-two punches for epic pow in North America. I've been down that way twice over the past 20 years on trips that were two weeks in duration and would go back in a second.
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This year I am planning on taking a trip out west in mid Febuary with another family, we want to go together ( becus its usually cheaper) BUT they want to go to Kicking Horse while we wan't to go to JAckson Hole. .
Not sure where you coming from staffpro but kickinghorse can be pretty inexpensive, never been to jackson hole though (I wish)... throw in a side trip to lake louise/sunshine/panorama i think that could be a pretty nice trip,
post #4 of 13
Give the good old search function a test drive... Search for "kicking horse" here and at TGR. Then prowl around here for Bob Peters' Beginner & Not So Beginner guides to JH (back from winter 2003/2004). Print all and show it to your buddies. Then enjoy your trip to JH...
post #5 of 13
You would need to go farther west in Canada to find a resort that compares to JH.

*cough*Whistler*cough*Blackcomb*cough*

enjoy Jackson Hole.
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Never been to JH, but really want to. KH can be a bit more hit or miss, but I have had some phenomenal days there. I think on of the biggest improvements would be a half way (Or 2/3) stop on the gondola. Make it easier to lap the ridges. It probably doesn't get much better than KH if you can afford to stay at the Eagle's Nest though KH is great for people in the area, and as part of other trips...I wouldn't make it a full week destination.
post #7 of 13
Staffpro, Your friends are out of their minds . Village? At KH? Are they thinking Golden? Unless their has been a LOT of construction since 2001 I don't think there is much of a village. And Golden is not much. Besides that, there are a TON of reasons to pick JH over KH. Like SNOW, better terrain, better lifts, better town etc. Use the search function and build your case, shouldn't take too long.

I'm glad I went to KH; it is a really cool place with beautiful and ethereal views, but it was a side trip from Banff. No way I would spend a week there.
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Unless their has been a LOT of construction since 2001 I don't think there is much of a village.
There definately has been a LOT of construction. It is still not huge, but is getting more and more of a big resort feel. Still can't say the village is anything to write home about yet, but given a few more years with LOTS of construction it will be...
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There definately has been a LOT of construction. It is still not huge, but is getting more and more of a big resort feel. Still can't say the village is anything to write home about yet, but given a few more years with LOTS of construction it will be...
Is LOTS of construction in the plans? When will the village be a village?

When I was there the day lodge looked brand new as did the restaurant on the top of the mountain. That was pretty much it.
post #10 of 13

Kicking Horse Developments

They've added about five lodges with a small number of pubs and restaurants, as well as several townhouse and resort home developments. There is one lodge and one resort home development in construction with more scheduled over the next few years.

Since 2001 I think they have opened up the Feuz Bowl and more chutes into it off of Redemption Ridge. I keep scanning the upcoming construction news to see when they are going to resolve their lift situation (the need for a midstation on the gondola at the exit from the upper runs, replacement of the Pioneer chair, and new lifts to expanded terrain).

Complete build-out is in 7-10 years and it looks like it will probably be a pretty spiffy resort when everything is finished (and when they construct the tunnels for the TransCanada highway in the canyon), but it's still early days for those looking for the resort experience. On the other hand if you want to tour around to Louis, Sunshine, Panorama, Marmot, and Fernie, you can easily string together a pretty good one or two week itinerary with relatively short travel times (2-3 hours depending on your next destination).
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Kicking Horse Vs. Jacxkson Hole

[quote=staffpro;576365]As with the beginning of every new ski season we find ourselves in the same situations yearly, where to go skiing this year? This year I am planning on taking a trip out west in mid Febuary with another family, we want to go together ( becus its usually cheaper) BUT they want to go to Kicking Horse while we wan't to go to JAckson Hole. Their arguments are they wan't to ski the "ridges" at KH but my opinion is that those ridges are very short and that it is kind of stupid that you have to go all the way down the mountain because there are only 2 lifts, on top of that, the bottom of the mountain is basically all beginner terrain, Secondly they want a village, my opinion is that that KH has a very crappy village comprised of like 2 hotels while JAckson's Teton village is actually respectable. Thirdly my argument AGAINST KH are -can be bad weather due to low altitude
-only basically 2 lifts
-very short ridges

First of all I have never been to Jackson Hole and I have been to Kicking Horse twice with a third trip planned for this Febuary.

Having said that I would never spend a week at KH.
I have always tied the trip to a combo platter to include Lake louise, Panorama , and or Fernie.

The conditions at KH can be very spotty.

The track record at Jackson Hole is better

I really like KH but not for a week
post #12 of 13
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Is LOTS of construction in the plans?
Yes. You can find the plans online, complete with LOTS, of course.

KH, as everyone has said, is close to Lake Louise, Fernie, Pano, Sunshine - so that's something to think about.

As for JH "competing" with Whistler. Nothing against JH, which is obviously more than great, but there's really no competiton.

And KH verus JH no comp, either. JH hands down right now.

But JH versus KH + Lake Louise...+ Panorama... + Sunshine... +Nakiska ...+ whatever backcountry you want to throw in...well, whole new ballgame - but it involves driving, whereas a week in JH doesn't.
post #13 of 13

To Jackson, my friend!

I've spent a week, twice, at each of JH and KH. While KH has some awesome terrain and a phenomenal main lift, the lower mountain has been a dead loss when I've been there, and the upper lift is not situated to take advantage of the best terrain. Jackson is every bit as good as "they" all say, and happens to be the only place I've ever been for a week where it snowed EVERY day. Apres Vous is a much under-discussed powder haven, with perfect pitch and tree shots to get your fill of uncrowded turns. And the Hobacks...speechless!
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