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post #1 of 18
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Hello all,
Im new to the forum and have been out of skiing for a few years. I am looking for a new pair of boards and was wondering where I should start. Im a pretty aggressive skiier, i raced in highschool and college but now im looking for a good all mountain ski that has the characteristics of a GS ski but is a little wider in the waist. Any ideas or suggestions? Thanks!
post #2 of 18
Super vague dude. Where do you ski? How big are you? Do you fall victim to ski envy or have friends that will? Do you huck with mad steez or make perfect esses for fun?
post #3 of 18
token insert: Boots / Demo or Demo / Boots.
Lots of discussion on this site, I'd suggest browsing the "Ski Gear Discussion" forum to start, see what kinds of questions people are asking and what kinds of answers are givem. Maybe pick up a demo package for the year so you can figure out what you like before investing in new skis and bindings. I learned a lot from demo-ing.
post #4 of 18
Indeed more info is needed, but I'd venture something like the Volkl AC3 would be a good starting point, maybe compare with AC4 (wider), Rossi Z9 (more sidecut), etc.

Are you looking for a carving ski that handles the rest of the mountain well enough, or something that is more to the off-piste side of things but can still handle groomers?
post #5 of 18
Also, I think GS skis these days have a turn radius of about 22m-25m or so, if that helps you. A wider ski with a similar radius should turn similar, if a bit more sluggish side to side from the width.
post #6 of 18
The operative question is how often you expect to enconter deep snow, and how deep? This will determine how wide you should be considering.A typical GS ski is roughly 68mm at the waist. The wider you go, the less like a racing ski it will feel, but the more lift you will get if the snow is deep.

If you ski mostly on groomers you could do very nicely with a ski that is maybe 72mm. If you expect to see snow over 4"-6" deep on a regular basis, then wider like 76-78mm will make sense. There are even some powerful skis in the 82mm width range. They will give you even more deep snow capability and if you get the right one, it can feel very powerful when up on edge. Those wider ones will take some time to get there though and won't feel "quick to the edge" like the narrower ones will.

When someone says "all mountain with a GS feel" the skis that come to mind are Volkls and Nordicas.

It's all about your priorities.

SJ
post #7 of 18
Elan Magfire 10, 12, head 72,82, Fischer 73, Atomic Superspeed ti, volkl AC2 or 3, fischer rx8 rx9, Head SuperShape. Atomic metron 11B. There is a big delta between some of these skis but as said above, get boots, get fitted and then demo, demo, demo if possible.
post #8 of 18
Elan Magfire 12
post #9 of 18
(broken record......)

Head Im88.
post #10 of 18
broke, but it keeps on playing.......
post #11 of 18
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Originally Posted by alpineskiman View Post
Hello all,
Im new to the forum and have been out of skiing for a few years. I am looking for a new pair of boards and was wondering where I should start. Im a pretty aggressive skiier, i raced in highschool and college but now im looking for a good all mountain ski that has the characteristics of a GS ski but is a little wider in the waist. Any ideas or suggestions? Thanks!
Welcome back.
I would like to suggest the Dynastar SkiCross 9 or 10 from the 2004-05 season. I have the 2003-04 SkiCross 9 model in 170 and love them. The 2004-05 models are available regularly on ebay at great discounts, are the third generation and best of the series.
Dynastar SkiCross 9
http://www.ski-review.com/content/view/82/30/

Dynastar SkiCross 10
http://www.skis.com/product.php?productid=71065

BTW: For comparison, I am a Level III skier that spends most of my time on DB steeps and in the trees.
post #12 of 18
Agressive, all mountain that can behave like a GS...
Dynastar Legend Pro’s come to mind. It’s pretty much just a big fat race ski...
post #13 of 18
Knowing nothing else about you (unhelpful post), a Volkl AC3 or 4, a Head iM77 or 82, or a Nordica Top Fuel will all give you serious carve, are beefy enough for higher speeds, but are wide enough for off-road adventures. If you don't need so much float, think about a Nordica Mach 3, Stockli Cross, or Stockli Stormrider XL.
post #14 of 18
Atomic Beta 5
post #15 of 18
Gotta go with the Legen Pro...it is a race room made, hand made GS ski that happens to be over 90mm at the waist. The ski will rip anywhere.
post #16 of 18
I just asked a similar question last week and found some of the answers vague. However, once I addressed my weight (195lbs), experience (25yrs) and favorite terrain (East Coast steep) the folks on this site where able to help me dial in. I'm actually looking at some Atomic R11s today (GS inspired). In the meantime if someone could point me toward a similar ski manufactured by Volkl or Fischer, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Hope this helps your search.
post #17 of 18
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Originally Posted by peobus View Post
I just asked a similar question last week and found some of the answers vague. However, once I addressed my weight (195lbs), experience (25yrs) and favorite terrain (East Coast steep) the folks on this site where able to help me dial in. I'm actually looking at some Atomic R11s today (GS inspired). In the meantime if someone could point me toward a similar ski manufactured by Volkl or Fischer, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Hope this helps your search.
Anybody with help for Alpineski and I?
post #18 of 18
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Originally Posted by peobus View Post
I just asked a similar question last week and found some of the answers vague. However, once I addressed my weight (195lbs), experience (25yrs) and favorite terrain (East Coast steep) the folks on this site where able to help me dial in. I'm actually looking at some Atomic R11s today (GS inspired). In the meantime if someone could point me toward a similar ski manufactured by Volkl or Fischer, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Hope this helps your search.
That's an easy one :
Volkl Allstar or 5 stars
AC4 or AC3 for something wider (around 75mm in the waist)
My experience with the allstars is excellent, but it's definitely groomer oriented. Have an AC4 if you intend to hit some deeper / softer snow once in a while.
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