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post #1 of 13
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Someone has posted how the "Classic feel" of K2 feel damp, smooth, and stable; but in general how do other skis feel differently compared to K2? For example, how do each of these skis feel differently than to each other (in general)?
1) K2 - damp, smooth and stable
2) Salomon
3) Volkl
4) Rossignol
5) Nordica
post #2 of 13
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Originally Posted by Baukerman View Post
Someone has posted how the "Classic feel" of K2 feel damp, smooth, and stable; but in general how do other skis feel differently compared to K2? For example, how do each of these skis feel differently than to each other (in general)?
1) K2 - damp, smooth and stable
2) Salomon
3) Volkl
4) Rossignol
5) Nordica
Our general impressions:

2) light, quick, snappy
3) solid, robust, energetic, responsive, stable, demanding
4) damp, smooth, 'dead' (flame on )
5) stable, lots of 'zing' in the tail
6) Atomic - stable, quick, very demanding
7) Volant - Super smooth, powerful, damp but not dead
post #3 of 13
I think it really depends on the model.

Heck, just within the Volkl range the "feel" of the Karma vs. the Mantra is vastly different.
post #4 of 13
Fischer - similar to Volkl but i bit more "lively"
would also like to add that Atomics are very damp
post #5 of 13
2. If it's not got a wood core, then squidgy.
post #6 of 13
Several years ago when Peter Keelty was writing a column for On the Snow he did several articles on ski brand "flavors" or brand "feel". The articles can still be read online.
http://dyn.onthesnow.com/news/techtalk/2002-12-06.html
http://dyn.onthesnow.com/news/techtalk/2002-12-13.html

There are some "feel" exceptions among models within a given brand. However, the articles seem to contain pretty good descriptions of brand "feel".
post #7 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thanks Lostboy. When I posted my question, I found your response in another post under "K2 Feel". So far I am thinking to go either with the Salomon XW Tornado or XW Blast. I was told the skis themselves are the same except the Tornado has a wood core which will dampen things a little. What do you all think between the two Salomons?
post #8 of 13
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Originally Posted by volklgirl View Post
Our general impressions:

2) light, quick, snappy
3) solid, robust, energetic, responsive, stable, demanding
4) damp, smooth, 'dead' (flame on )
5) stable, lots of 'zing' in the tail
6) Atomic - stable, quick, very demanding
7) Volant - Super smooth, powerful, damp but not dead
LOL...Absolutely right on with the Rossis! I'll add...
8) Dynastar: mellow, dependable, goldilocks(just right) energy, full bodied, sexy. (It's a french thing)
9) Head: rock solid, strong, dependable, carvy, demanding (it's an Austrian thing)
post #9 of 13
I find your individual size, strength, and ski characteristics influence this list quite a bit. I for isntance find K2 skis dead as bricks, salomons too noodley to compensate for, and Rossi's about the livliest thing I've ever skiied on. I'm a very heavy skiier though and tend to spend a lot of time charging on crud looking for the powder stashes, so YMMV.
post #10 of 13
Thread Starter 
Big jim,
I'm 5'7, weighing 180lbs. and looking at size 170. I don't really understand what you mean by noodley. Do you mean not stable wishy-washy? I thought i read that last year's Salomons were squiggly particularly on ice, but this year's models are not like that, they are pretty stable.....
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post #12 of 13
Thread Starter 
Good link Powderhound24.

I guess have another question regarding foam core vs wood core. What kind of difference does it( foam or wood core) make when skiing? Does having wood core make the ski less "noodley"? - whatever that means. Why do I ask, because I am selling my skis this weekend at a ski shop and I have choice between the Salomon XW Blast-foam core or the XW Tornado-wood core. I guess the only difference would be the lightness.
post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by Baukerman View Post
Good link Powderhound24.

I guess have another question regarding foam core vs wood core. What kind of difference does it( foam or wood core) make when skiing? Does having wood core make the ski less "noodle"? - whatever that means. Why do I ask, because I am selling my skis this weekend at a ski shop and I have choice between the Salomon XW Blast-foam core or the XW Tornado-wood core. I guess the only difference would be the lightness.
If you use the search feature you will find a a lot of wood vs. foam core skis threads. The debate never seems to end.

A "noodle" used to refer to a ski that was so soft longitudinally and torsionally that it made for a disappointing ride on hard snow or at speed. Today, manufacturers have the ability to make a ski realtively soft longitudinally (easy to bend into an arc) that is torsionally quite stiff (to hold an edge) so that fewer skis seem to fall into the "noodle" category. That said, there are still skis that are too soft for the the skier using them. Foam per-se does not make a ski a "noodle", though most "noodles" historically seem to have been foam core skis. On the other hand, Atomic and Stockli use a foam-like core in a number of their models yet produce some of the stiffest skis available.
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