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Do I keep these '07 Volkl Unlimited AC3's?

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
I'm looking for some advice/help in deciding whether to keep a new pair of '07 Volkl Unlimited AC3's 170's.
I am a 48 year old male, 5'8 and about 175 lbs and probably a level 7 or 8. I ski purely for the fun of it, don't really care what I look like, it's all just for fun. Will ski just about anything and everything, greens, blue, blacks, double blacks, trees, etc. Not to fast, not to slow, prefer short to medium turns. Being an eastern skier, primarily Sugarloaf, I don't get to see to much pow unfortunately. Lots of hardparked, groomers, ice---typical New England conditions. I do ski a fair amount, 40-50 times a season and will ski in/on all conditions. Gotta ski when I can!! Currently am on an older pair of Blizzard SC's 170's. These are great on the groomers but lousy in just about everything else and as I said, I like to ski the whole mountain. I started skiing when I was 13 and did so until I was about 25 and then got out of the sport---Why, I don't know. Got back into it about 4 or 5 years when I got the Blizzards and I think it's time for a new pair. I've been reading alot about the AC3 here on EpicSki and some of it makes me think these are a keeper and other posts have me wondering if it is too much ski for me. I see stuff about being "skilled" and being on top of your game. Some days I feel skilled and on top of it and some times I don't. Have been considering Rossi B2's and Volkl 5 Stars as well as the AC2. So what do all you Bears think? I want to ski my skis---I don't want my skis skiing me! Thanks!!
post #2 of 22
They are keepers. Mount 'em...Ski 'em...and don't look back!
post #3 of 22
Thread Starter 
Simple as that, huh? But can you give me something more than that so I can put to rest my fear that they may be too much ski for me. I don't consider myself an expert by any means and on most days I feel like an advanced intermediate but sometimes, I just flat out suck. Is it the skis I am on now, the Blizzards, that make me feel this way? Appreciate your comments
post #4 of 22
Skiing mag has it listed in the 'one-ski quiver expert' category and mentions that it's better suited for lighter skiers and/or those who want to ease it off a notch compared to the AC4, but can handle the power when prompted. Hope that helps.
post #5 of 22
You worry too much. I expect those who make a big deal about how on top of the AC3s one has to be, have technique issues. If you have been skiing race skis, the AC3s are going to feel much more forgiving I recon.

On the other hand, what I would recommend is that you save several hundred bucks and get these.
post #6 of 22
I don't mean to hijack this thread, but how do those older Volant Gravity skis perform? How do they compare to the newer Machette's. I too have heard the great things about the AC3's and have wondered how they compare to the various Volant models.
post #7 of 22
"Expert skis" Is usually a croc of crap. If you are a 7-8 and can ski anything and have some weight don't worry a lick. Having said that you have to know what you like in a ski. Do you want a stiff ski or a noodle. Do you want to carve or smear. Volks are usually stiffer carving type skis but at your level you should be able to do what you want with em.
Jmho
post #8 of 22
Skiah, Max Capacity put me onto the AC3's two seasons ago. I'm a bit taller (6') and a bit heavier (200 lbs) but otherwise similar to you i.e. a good recreational skier, mid 40's, who got back into the sport after a long layoff.

In Australia, you can get a lot of variety in a days skiing (even in a single run). The top may start off as dust on crust, the middle part of the mountain becomes scraped off boiler plate and the bottom of a run melting mush. My AC3's @ 170cm handle it all and on the occasions following a good fall, they handle the ungroomed freshies well (I'm reluctant to say we get powder in Oz). The ski can carve and scarve, holds an edge on ice and can bash through mush and crud.

Another ski that you might like to consider is the Stockli Stormrider XL which has very similar specifications to the AC3. I have now retired the AC3's to status of rock ski as my main ski is the Stormrider. The Stormrider does everything the AC3 does, just it seems better. And, without the Marker system binding, it is considerably lighter.
post #9 of 22
At your height, weight, experience, number of ski days - in 170, they are NOT "too much" ski for you. Keep them and let us know how big your smile is by mid-season.
post #10 of 22
The AC3 is a bulked up version (it would seem) of the old G3, which was (and still is) one fine all-around ski (save for really bumpy). I was skiing the G3 170 at 210lbs with no problemo's. From east to west. In fact, a 170 AC3 might even be a bit lengthy because it's a 74 waist vs. the 70 so why not try it down a notch?
post #11 of 22
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Originally Posted by bsather View Post
The AC3 is a bulked up version (it would seem) of the old G3, which was (and still is) one fine all-around ski (save for really bumpy). I was skiing the G3 170 at 210lbs with no problemo's. From east to west. In fact, a 170 AC3 might even be a bit lengthy because it's a 74 waist vs. the 70 so why not try it down a notch?
This years AC3 is a 76mm waist.
post #12 of 22
I disagree with the other posters on the thread. I think you should sell the skis.

And for my 2,000 post I would like to request that you let me help you out by taking them off your hands cheap.

waddyathink?
post #13 of 22
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Originally Posted by ski=free View Post
"Expert skis" Is usually a croc of crap. If you are a 7-8 and can ski anything and have some weight don't worry a lick. Having said that you have to know what you like in a ski. Do you want a stiff ski or a noodle. Do you want to carve or smear. Volks are usually stiffer carving type skis but at your level you should be able to do what you want with em.
Jmho
Fully agreed!

Definitely keep them.

"Expert" in the ski mag categories is a highly overrated term.

The AC3's are more forgiving than the AC4's, and would make a great all-round ski for any decent eastern skier.

You'll eat 'em up!

If you go lower, (AC2's), you'll lose edge-hold and performance, and regret it!

Keepers!
post #14 of 22
Oh well guess I bought crappy skis:

Quote:
I bought the AC2's and they were delivered on Saturday....

they look nice.... time will tell if I made the right decision.

I think either way it will be a step up from my Rosingnol Rebels of 6 or 7 years ago---
mikebike
I am not as good of skier as "skiah" -- more of a blue and single black skier ....

I am going to try to enjoy my new skis in spite of them
post #15 of 22
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Originally Posted by mikebike View Post
Oh well guess I bought crappy skis:

I am not as good of skier as "skiah" -- more of a blue and single black skier ....

I am going to try to enjoy my new skis in spite of them
The AC2's sound like a great ski for you.

Skiah skis 40-50 days per year - that's a LOT. Anyone with that much hill-time needs a powerful, performance ski.

There's NOTHING wrong with the AC2's. They're likely not quite as stiff as the AC3's, but for many skiers, it's a better choice.

Too much ski will beat the snot out of you, and too little will "give" too much.

There's no "best" ski. It's about: What's best for you?

The AC2's reflect superb engineering from one of the best brands in the world, and could be the best ski on the market for you. A great choice!

Enjoy!
post #16 of 22
If you hate the AC3s, let me know....I'm looking for 170s
post #17 of 22
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Originally Posted by SkiMangoJazz View Post
I disagree with the other posters on the thread. I think you should sell the skis.

And for my 2,000 post I would like to request that you let me help you out by taking them off your hands cheap.

waddyathink?
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Originally Posted by volklgirl View Post
If you hate the AC3s, let me know....I'm looking for 170s
Not so fast there vg - beat you to the punch!
post #18 of 22
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Originally Posted by SkiMangoJazz View Post
Not so fast there vg - beat you to the punch!
Yeah, but I didn't qualify mine with 'cheap'
post #19 of 22
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Originally Posted by volklgirl View Post
Yeah, but I didn't qualify mine with 'cheap'
your point.
post #20 of 22
Thread Starter 

Volkl Unlimited AC3's

These boards have been eating away at me since I bought them in October and though I usually pass on the ribbon of death, I just couldnt take it anymore and so I headed up to Sugarloaf this past weekend. So glad I did, so glad, so very glad!

Philpug They are keepers. Mount 'em...Ski 'em...and don't look back!

Since becoming a member of EpicSki, I have read numerous posts of yours and have always felt like you were a man to listen to. I was right as were you. I did what you said, I mounted 'em, I skied 'em and I ain't never lookin back!! To any new bears reading this, take heed from this guy. Thanks, Phil!

volantaddict You worry too much. I expect those who make a big deal about how on top of the AC3s one has to be, have technique issues. If you have been skiing race skis, the AC3s are going to feel much more forgiving I recon.

Yeah, I : way too much! Again, for you new bears, this is another one to pay attention to. Thanks, VA!!

andy vw Skiing mag has it listed in the 'one-ski quiver expert' category and mentions that it's better suited for lighter skiers and/or those who want to ease it off a notch compared to the AC4, but can handle the power when prompted. Hope that helps.

Spot on, andy vw.

oboe At your height, weight, experience, number of ski days - in 170, they are NOT "too much" ski for you. Keep them and let us know how big your smile is by mid-season.

No need to wait until mid-season, Oboe.....my buddy(who just picked up a pair of Volkl 5 Stars) and I were grinning big huge ear to ear grins by mid-morning!! Now I know why they call them Volkls---cuz they make you vocal. Lots of yahooing!!

SkiMangoJazz I disagree with the other posters on the thread. I think you should sell the skis.

And for my 2,000 post I would like to request that you let me help you out by taking them off your hands cheap.

waddyathink?

volklgirl If you hate the AC3s, let me know....I'm looking for 170s

Not a chance!!!

Captain_StratoQuote:
Originally Posted by ski=free
"Expert skis" Is usually a croc of crap. If you are a 7-8 and can ski anything and have some weight don't worry a lick. Having said that you have to know what you like in a ski. Do you want a stiff ski or a noodle. Do you want to carve or smear. Volks are usually stiffer carving type skis but at your level you should be able to do what you want with em.
Jmho

Fully agreed!

Definitely keep them.

"Expert" in the ski mag categories is a highly overrated term.

The AC3's are more forgiving than the AC4's, and would make a great all-round ski for any decent eastern skier.

You'll eat 'em up!

If you go lower, (AC2's), you'll lose edge-hold and performance, and regret it!

Keepers!

I ate these babies up!!! And they were soooo goooood!!!

Captain_StratoQuote:
Originally Posted by mikebike
Oh well guess I bought crappy skis:

I am not as good of skier as "skiah" -- more of a blue and single black skier ....

I am going to try to enjoy my new skis in spite of them

The AC2's sound like a great ski for you.

Skiah skis 40-50 days per year - that's a LOT. Anyone with that much hill-time needs a powerful, performance ski.

There's NOTHING wrong with the AC2's. They're likely not quite as stiff as the AC3's, but for many skiers, it's a better choice.

Too much ski will beat the snot out of you, and too little will "give" too much.

There's no "best" ski. It's about: What's best for you?

The AC2's reflect superb engineering from one of the best brands in the world, and could be the best ski on the market for you. A great choice!

Enjoy!

MikeBike....I hope you found Captain_Strato's words to be as true as I did.


So, a word of thanks to those that gave me encouraging words. You just never know what you're getting unless you demo and unfortunately I was not able to do that with the AC3. I felt confident that I was making a good purchase but as I said, you just never know. Thanks again!!!
post #21 of 22

If you were a true 7-8 you wouldn't have to ask.  If not, keep the volkls, take a few lessons this year, and enjoy then next year.  Back off a little this year and stick to the "blues" and "blacks" where you can ski them and not the other way around.  If your sitting back, they will ski you.

post #22 of 22

Welcome to Epic and congratulations on using the search function...sort of surprising to see this old thread revived, but I have noticed that the search with the new format doesn't seem to give much weight to date when deciding relevance...

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