Originally Posted by borntoski683
If, your approach is to pivot your skiis on the top of the bump and then skid sideways down to the next bump and do a hard edge set on the top of the next bump when you slam into it, well that is quite obviously a terrible extreme of bad bump skiing
I will be the first to admit that I suck at bumps, but perhaps that lets me relate, because the example given above is exactly what many descriptions of bump skiing a-la-pivot APPEAR to advocate. Missing from the above is the force throughout the turn, the strong extension. You are letting your skis skid, not arc, but your are still digging those edges in HARD to control your speed.
I can also appreciate a little of what you must be feeling as a PMTS skier, not because I'm a PMTS skier; I only discovered PMTS through the net when I tuned into this forum, but because of the way I learned to ski. I learned to ski in the dim and distant past using very long very stiff very heavy skis. I was also very light. Pivoting these monsters was not something I was good at, nor was it something I did much of. I was all about riding the edge of the skis. At first I did let the snow pivot my skis for me, but I quickly progressed to the point where I had enough momentum to simply bend the ski into the curve shape I wanted and then slice my way along on the curved edge. When I finally got around to skiing bumps, I found that I used the same movements, but added a drifting component to my turns to apply braking edges to control speed WHEN NEEDED.
The trouble is that a good carver can ski most bumps without needing to do much else. Maybe some people are fortunate enough to have bump runs discussed on these forums like Mary Jane, and Gun Barrel next door. For others, difficult bumps are hard to find. I can remember maybe two icy mogul runs at Tremblant (I haven't been back since one of their employees was mean to me), SOMETIMES a run or two at Blue Mountain, and a couple at Mt. Washington BC (wonderful folk there
) I would call hard. I skied them without wiping out, but by the bottom my legs were on fire, my body really got jerked around and I was completely out of breath. I also had to resort to skidding my carves on the icy ones at Tremblant. Actually a fun game of mine is to see how fast I can get going in bumps before I have to bail (brake or ski out of them).
Whenever I tried the alternate technique for bumps, what I did was the pivot and slam
:. No wonder my way seemed better.
Fast forward to a few years ago. I decided to get hooked up with some short turning shaped skis, and demoed a lot of 'em. The only bumps I could find I could race through with Rossi 9S Oversize. Does that mean I'm a good bump skier or that carving bumps is the best way. NO! It means that I couldn't find any good bumps. There was not enough snow for them to grow really big.
I have recently (last two years) been reading a lot. The difference between the pivot and slam and the work your edges on the way down with an ACTIVE extension is subtle, but important. I'm now convinced that the skidding will work better in difficult bumps, though I haven't come across any yet. I am also convinced that pivoting has its place.