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el Nino = more or less snow for Atla?

post #1 of 13
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The title says it all. This is my second year in SLC. What kind of snow can I expect for my Alta/Bird pass in an el Nino year?

My hunch says that the warmer ocean will lead to more moisture in the atmosphere. Will the jet stream typically bring that over the Wastach?

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post #2 of 13
Normal year - Alta - 500in
EL Nino year - Alta - 490in
La Nina year - Alta - 510in
post #3 of 13
Regardless of the El Nino, La Nina or whatever, we're definitely going to get ours. LCC = mother nature's magic snow machine.
post #4 of 13
Marty's right. The correlation between Alta snowfall and El Nino/La Nina is literally zero. No effect.
post #5 of 13
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The correlation between Alta snowfall and El Nino/La Nina is literally zero. No effect.
Well, I do remember that El Nino year way back when when we got over 500" of snow. It was epic. Oh wait, that's every year.:
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Well, I do remember that El Nino year way back when when we got over 500" of snow. It was epic. Oh wait, that's every year.:
Don't jinx Alta.
post #7 of 13
alta/bird worst season is still better than tons of places around the country I would bet.

Anyone know what the worst snowfall in a season is for LCC?
post #8 of 13

where

i assume we are behind schedule with that snow machine, right?
post #9 of 13

Snow Forcast/Weather Resources

I would like to submit the following subtopic as a sticky on this topic.

This web site is fabulous for determining snowfall trends in North America. I am sure that there are others that skiers have found and would like to know about.

Your Guide to Snowfall - http://members.aol.com/crockeraf/

post #10 of 13
Whether it's Alta or Smugglers' Notch in Vermont - El or La doesn't make as much of a difference as just plain luck. Last year at Smuggs was horrid, I have absolutely no doubt this season will be better, and who cares why.

The predictive value of El and La for snowfall and temps in some areas is absolute zero.

And you're right - a bad year at Alta is way better than a great year at other places. The fact that we have Alta and beer (other than 3.2) shows that God wants us to be happy.
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...and beer (other than 3.2) shows that God wants us to be happy.
Uh...you do know that Utah beer is sold by weight, not volume? That puts 3.2 beer at 4% by volume (the most commonly used measure). That puts Utah beer at the low end of most normal beers (and far greater than most light beers), but greater than most British Lagers. Just thought you might want to know.

http://www.csulb.edu/~parayner/Alcohol.html

Powdr
post #12 of 13
Alta's worst year was 1976-77 at 298 inches. Snowbird's worst was 1991-92 at 281 inches.

1976-77 was the worst season for many western areas. Coverage in LCC was inadequate until mid-February. March was pretty good.

In 1991-92 November snowfall was high in LCC; the rest of the year was about half normal snow.

There is a lot of terrain that needs plenty of coverage. Snowbird in general is a very rocky area if reported base is less than 50 inches. Much of Alta still skis well on 4 feet.
post #13 of 13
It won't be last year, that's for sure. But, Alta/Snowbird will still get 500+...I'm sure of that. Even if it's El Nino is LCC, they still have more snow than ANYWHERE else!
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