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Any super freak carvers out there?

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
So Wisconsin doesn't have long runs, no powder, and no back country. Lots of terrain "features" but I'm too old. I'm trying to reach carving nirvana! Now I found a few snowboard sites that talk about "extreme carving" techniques and equipment

http://www.hardbooter.com/

http://www.bomberonline.com/articles/welcome_center.cfm

but none for alpine ski carving nuts. You guys got any links to share? Thanks in advance
post #2 of 16
we talking scraping elbo or what?
post #3 of 16
Thread Starter 
Well yeah, it would be neat to see what other people are doing.

I looked for a recent video but all I could find were some easy turns from 2001

http://homepage.mac.com/fastskiguy/M...Theater12.html



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we talking scraping elbo or what?
post #4 of 16
The ultimate carving tool : the Skwal.

post #5 of 16
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The ultimate carving tool : the Skwal.

Yeah, now that's what I'm talking about. Except with a ski on each foot. But that flying edge change....elbow grazing the snow...that's what I'm after.
post #6 of 16
How about some butt carving? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E_d6...20Carve%20Snow

HEH LOL!
post #7 of 16
This one is pretty funny too...and this guy can actually ski

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laILk...20Carve%20Snow
post #8 of 16
MattL...........That was to cool.
Thanks for the post.
post #9 of 16
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This one is pretty funny too...and this guy can actually ski

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laILk...20Carve%20Snow

That arm swinging move is a riot. That dude is nutty.
post #10 of 16
Thread Starter 
OK, now we're getting somewhere, something like this. Did you see the section where he wasn't doing the "super freak" carves? The guy stands on his skis well and really rides the arc vs. flailing like a freakathon. So he's got skills, I think it's just a little ungainly in sections (the bodycarving parts)....but he is really moving in the right direction. This is a great link, thanks

Those alpine snowboard guys really start the turn in a low position and push their feet uphill while they move their body down into the turn-this loads the board, starts the carve, and gets their body tall so they can decrease the pressure in the second half of the turn when gravity and centripedal force start pulling in the same direction.

So I'm thinking if this guy implemented this in the beginning of his turns he'd be there.

Rockin! Now I've really got Ski Fever baby!

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This one is pretty funny too...and this guy can actually ski

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laILk...20Carve%20Snow
post #11 of 16
Ahhh.... the power of Fischer Worldcup SL
post #12 of 16
My twin bro does that carving stuff on a snowboarder. He boards at wilmot and alpine valley all of the time. We went out to meet the owner of hardbooter last year in Park City. He has fun with it, but he also has a powder board because if there is any powder, you are screwed.
post #13 of 16
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My twin bro does that carving stuff on a snowboarder. He boards at wilmot and alpine valley all of the time. We went out to meet the owner of hardbooter last year in Park City. He has fun with it, but he also has a powder board because if there is any powder, you are screwed.
I might have to switch over if this "extreme carving" stuff isn't possible on skis. But my snowboarding skills leave A LOT to be desired! I live in northern IL so if I make the switch, I'll want to spy on your brother to try to pick up tips.

Does he use step in bindings or those bail-type style bindings? Reason I ask is that you can get 50 runs in at Alpine Valley on the high speed lift pretty fast and the bail style binding would get pretty old I'm guessing.
post #14 of 16
How many parkas and pants do you think these guys shred?
post #15 of 16
There was a event called "Trenching" a few years back. Guys would stack their Elan SCX's with lifters and had a very wide SL course, kinda like when waterskiers slalom.
post #16 of 16
Thread Starter 
yeah, I remember these, the course I read about used little round markers instead of regular gates or snowboard gates. Looked like fun but never caught on....heh, most places went with a terrain park instead.

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There was a event called "Trenching" a few years back. Guys would stack their Elan SCX's with lifters and had a very wide SL course, kinda like when waterskiers slalom.
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