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post #31 of 48
cruds fun and i think it builds power and balance, but so do groomers! great place to work on technique and finer points, as well as ski reaaalllly fast . i especially like a long groomer with lots of turns and pitch changes, perfect for that "diving" feel when you start a turn. skiing's skiing man - fun any way you do it!!
post #32 of 48
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider View Post
Groomers rock during the freeze-thaw cycle when the trees are coral reef and bumps are frozen chicken heads. All hail the grooming crew until the sun warms up the goods.
Sounds like you've spent some time here in the northeast! You forgot to add the inch of rain that falls after the thaw but before the refreeze.

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Originally Posted by JohnH
There are lots of days where you can make high speed arcs and not be able to see any lines left in the "snow" because it really is a lot like an ice rink. The snow is so hard that the tiller on the groomer can't penetrate it at all
I actually really enjoy those days -- you learn a lot on days like those. Very few people are crazy enough to ski those conditions, and your ears will tell you how close you're coming to a pure carve.
post #33 of 48
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Originally Posted by Posaune View Post
I'm 52.
What's your excuse ?
post #34 of 48
I love skiing but i live in ontario so i have no choice! until i can break away to a little cabin somewhere in bc with a good stock of ramen noodles, allota beer and my solly xtra hots im condemed to blue mountain. I just turned 18 so now i can legally break away i just need the money. prey for me.
post #35 of 48
It's all good.
post #36 of 48
My dad's 54, likes to ski fast on the groomers. I don't think he's any less of a "real" skier than I am because I like the trees. Its what he likes, and he skis them well, not like an idiot. Methinks its just as "elitist" to deem skiing "worthiness" based on where you like to ski as someone setting up a private ski club that deems your worthiness based on your net worth. Ski what you like, its all good.
post #37 of 48
I like groomers. Its great skiing. Even better than groomers is boiler plate. Better than either is powder. We sure get a lot of that around here! The trouble with ungroomed is that it becomes moguls which really do suck. I find it difficult to believe anyone who says he finds no challenge in any of these conditions. The fellow who says he finds no challenge in groomed terrain, is he a truly great skier? Probably not. His concept of challenge is just limited.
post #38 of 48
Thread Starter 
Wow, I've really hit a nerve with some people. It was a little joke. You know; "I hate moguls", "I love moguls", I don't care about moguls, etc. Your manhood was not being challenged nor that of any kith or kin. Let's let it die and I apologize if I've angered anyone. To tell the truth anyone who slides on snow on two boards is a "real skier" to me.

I still don't like groomers much, though.
post #39 of 48
I'm in the hate 'em camp, except maybe at the end of the day when I'm tired and don't want to put any effort to getting down for the first beer.

I love to ski, and groomers beat nothing, but they are my last choice of terrain when other options exist.
post #40 of 48
My ex wife is a stylist, does that count.
post #41 of 48
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Originally Posted by Tarzan View Post
My ex wife is a stylist, does that count.
That's like money in the bank.

My weakest skiing is on groomers. I have a hard time keeping up and people laugh at my GS turns. Bumps, crud, and trees are for me. I would say my level drops a full point on groomers.

In the East you take what you can get. I'd rather ski a groomed run than a rock hard bump run any day. But that doesn't mean I do it well.
post #42 of 48

Luv'em if....

If they are interesting and at least a mile long…by interesting I am talking about off camber corners, dips, sun, shade, a few well spaced moguls, places to grab air and the ability to let a pair of GS skis just run….Ridge Runner or Rock and Roll on Blackcomb can be this way…a mid-week spring morning, and fresh corduroy…yummy!

Or Whistler Upper Downhill to Bear Paw, then a cut over to Crabapple, which late season can be a real challenge with rocks, streams and ice. Actually all of Whistler Dave Murray Downhill can be pretty tasty….

Would I want to ski them for 8 hours? No, but for a couple of runs in the right conditions they can be fun and, at least for this person, challenging!
post #43 of 48
I have to go with Bob Peters. I love a good groomer. I use to hate them but then I learned to turn efficiently and wala, the groomers were suddenly fun again. Go figure.

I will take ice over a good groomer though.
post #44 of 48
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Originally Posted by Tarzan View Post
I love groomers, they make it easier to get back to the lifts when you pop out of the trees.

That's what I"m talking about!
post #45 of 48
I like skiing anything and am grateful as long as there is snow to ski on
post #46 of 48
My best day last season was late April at Vail when we unexpectedly got 6" new at Vail and they manicured the place. It was a bluebird day and there and the place was empty.

Cube and I got "first groomers" till about 1PM, on a picture perfect day.
post #47 of 48
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Originally Posted by Uncle Louie View Post
My best day last season was late April at Vail when we unexpectedly got 6" new at Vail and they manicured the place. It was a bluebird day and there and the place was empty.

Cube and I got "first groomers" till about 1PM, on a picture perfect day.
Are you saying they packed down the powder? ****in Vail.
post #48 of 48
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Originally Posted by Paul Jones View Post
Are you saying they packed down the powder? ****in Vail.
Yep....and we stayed on the front side because it was so late in the season that had the best exposure. It was amazing soft mistake-proof snow....blue sky....zero wind...no people.
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