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2nd ANNUAL "Teach Highway Star How to Ski" Day!!!

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Thread Starter 
Well, it's that time of the year when the smack talking and armchair quarterbacking is reaching "epic" proportions. So in honor of this thread:

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=44851

And in the tradition of these threads:

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=31952
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=31873

I am happy to annouce this year's:

2ND ANNUAL "TEACH HIGHWAY STAR TO SKI" DAY!!!!!!

Tenative date: Saturday Dec. 2nd 2006
Location (TBD): Stowe VT, or Killington, VT
Time: 10 am.

It should be quite clear by now that I'm in serious need of help (or at least an attitude adjustment, lol). Just look at what these world renowned experts have to say!

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Originally Posted by GoldMember View Post
You're in the backseat, you throw your hands, you over-rotate your shoulders and upper body, and your skis are all over the place. Pretty intermediate to advanced in my book.
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Originally Posted by alpinedad View Post
You're the perfect skier, the platonic ideal. There's no point to skiing something you already have, so the rest of us are giving up trying. We've assigned a cadre of Bears and Maggots to follow you from run to run, permanently closing each trail you ski after you've been down it, to preserve it for posterity. It can never be skied any better than you have, because by definition, if you've skied it, it has been skied perfectly.
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Originally Posted by HeluvaSkier View Post
Highway Star, I have long awaited the day for you to post video of your skiing.......Your skiing shows over-aggressive, untrained, mediocre skiing from a skier who only survives on the mountain because of the aggressiveness with which they are skiing... I am not going to side with those who think your skis are too big and too stiff for you, because I don't think they are. Granted they are way too much for how you are skiing on them but if you were using them properly you would probably be fine.

WOW! So you know you're in for a treat!

Perhaps you'd like to show me how to do some real skiing? Or how to stand on the outside ski? Or who's the boss. Or any other nuances of my technique? OR how to RIP, AWESOMELY!

The location is TBD......either is fine with me, I'm flexable. Date could be pushed back, but I think enough of either mountain should be open by that date to make it worthwhile. Bring equipment to ski prevailing conditions of the day, but expect to ski "off-piste" if there is anything even vaguely resembling a "base". Try to be warmed up......I should have about 8-10 days in by that date, so I'll at least be able to make it down the hill in one peice, but you never know!!!


post #2 of 23
Moved to the proper section.
post #3 of 23
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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese View Post
Moved to the proper section.
Random Humor might have been the better choice!
post #4 of 23
Push it back to the weekend of the 16-17th at Stowe and get the best instruction imaginable from the coaches at ESA, Highway Star. I would love to get your impression of two days of coaching from Michael Rogan in a small group of advanced-expert skiers.
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Thread Starter 
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Push it back to the weekend of the 16-17th at Stowe and get the best instruction imaginable from the coaches at ESA, Highway Star. I would love to get your impression of two days of coaching from Michael Rogan in a small group of advanced-expert skiers.
Any price break off the $400 if I already have a stowe pass?

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Nolo, Highway Star was planing to charge for the privelege of teaching him, not pay.

HS, yes. Passholders can get a discount.
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FINALLY. A reason to ski the east.
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Why doesn't anyone ever do these events at Jackson Hole? :

I want to drive the video camera.
post #9 of 23
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Originally Posted by Highway Star
Well, it's that time of the year when the smack talking and armchair quarterbacking is reaching "epic" proportions.
You will get no arguements from me on that one... so far you're the only offender that has posted documented proof.

Honestly, I think Daron Rahlves could show up disguised as a normal person (assuming you'd know him if you saw him) and you would still come back and tell us that no one was better than you...

BTW, ESA would be a complete waste of time and money for you, since you don't listen anyway. Don't bother wasting the time of good coaches. I don't care how good you think you are, I know there will be people there who are more greatful to received good instruction than you will be.

Later

GREG
post #10 of 23
HS, if you just want to be a fly on the wall and claim "yeah, I ski like that", show up at Killington the weekend of Dec 9-10 and scope out the PSIA Mini Academy (2 day version of the Master's Academy). Also, the week of Dec 11-15 is the PSIA Pro Jam (lots of lower level instructors) as well as the Master's Academy. The Master's Academy is about 7 to 10 groups of 8 Level 3 certs, each led by a PSIA D-Teamer. It all runs out of the Snowshed lodge. All the other group leaders are PSIA Examiners.
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Originally Posted by JohnH View Post
HS, if you just want to be a fly on the wall and claim "yeah, I ski like that", show up at Killington the weekend of Dec 9-10 and scope out the PSIA Mini Academy (2 day version of the Master's Academy)... All the other group leaders are PSIA Examiners.
Considering that HighwayStar seems to compare himself favorably to World Cup GS skiers, I somehow doubt he'd be very impressed by the skiing of a mere examiner (or D-teamer).
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Considering that HighwayStar seems to compare himself favorably to World Cup GS skiers, I somehow doubt he'd be very impressed by the skiing of a mere examiner (or D-teamer).
Agreed. None of those examiners or d-teamers will be hanging their butts 2" off the snow, which apparently is what HS thinks of as good skiing and is desperate to emulate. What he doesn't realize is that every one of those examiners, and even the L3 certs would pimp slap HS in a race course.
post #13 of 23
HS,

I will try to make it on that Dec date. We and others can just ski and try not to taunt each other. You know, be kind. We can leave the camera behind and then give favorable comments here on Epic, like we did at Phil Phest.

We can fine tune the details later.
post #14 of 23
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Originally Posted by Paul Jones View Post
HS,

I will try to make it on that Dec date. We and others can just ski and try not to taunt each other. You know, be kind. We can leave the camera behind and then give favorable comments here on Epic, like we did at Phil Phest.

We can fine tune the details later.
Now, Paul, I don't think that's what HS has in mind at all. That would be NO FUN!

Thatsagirl
post #15 of 23
Man, guys! Give the kid a break! I know I'm a little new to this place, and I've only begun to glean details of HS's reputation on this board, but to those of you who are flaming him in this thread:

At least he's putting his money where his mouth is! He's actually given a time and place for you guys to meet him on the mountain. If he wasn't at least prepared to accept a little negative feedback, you think he'd actually risk having to face one of you guys in person?

Worst case scenario, he only wants you guys there so he can prove that he's better than you. If you guys meet up and he is better than you, then I guess he's earned the right to claim it. If not, then you will have given him a reason to quiet down on the messageboards.

But what if the worst case scenario isn't the actual case? What if he's actually trying to bury the hatchet and is willing to hear you guys weigh in your opinions, so that he may actually improve as a skier?

You don't necessarily have to expect the latter scenario, but if you're going go through the trouble of meeting him, you should go in with a good attitude just in case.
post #16 of 23
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Originally Posted by ritmusic2k View Post
Man, guys! Give the kid a break! I know I'm a little new to this place, and I've only begun to glean details of HS's reputation on this board, but to those of you who are flaming him in this thread:

At least he's putting his money where his mouth is! He's actually given a time and place for you guys to meet him on the mountain. If he wasn't at least prepared to accept a little negative feedback, you think he'd actually risk having to face one of you guys in person?

Worst case scenario, he only wants you guys there so he can prove that he's better than you. If you guys meet up and he is better than you, then I guess he's earned the right to claim it. If not, then you will have given him a reason to quiet down on the messageboards.

But what if the worst case scenario isn't the actual case? What if he's actually trying to bury the hatchet and is willing to hear you guys weigh in your opinions, so that he may actually improve as a skier?

You don't necessarily have to expect the latter scenario, but if you're going go through the trouble of meeting him, you should go in with a good attitude just in case.
Yes, you are new to the place. take a look at the history with Highway . Some of us met with Highway under these circumstances last year. It was a fun day for all. Most everyone held their own including HS. Read all of his posts, HS is a character that is being played on the internet.
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Duly noted. I guess I have my homework assignment for the weekend; looks like there's about 800 posts worth of catching up to do.

On a somewhat-related note, I'm definitely looking forward to meeting some of you guys on the mountain, as well.

So... did I mention I'm a 9+ thrasher?
post #18 of 23
dude, more "OC" representin'.
post #19 of 23
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Originally Posted by ritmusic2k View Post
Man, guys! Give the kid a break! I know I'm a little new to this place, and I've only begun to glean details of HS's reputation on this board, but to those of you who are flaming him in this thread:

At least he's putting his money where his mouth is! He's actually given a time and place for you guys to meet him on the mountain. If he wasn't at least prepared to accept a little negative feedback, you think he'd actually risk having to face one of you guys in person?

Worst case scenario, he only wants you guys there so he can prove that he's better than you. If you guys meet up and he is better than you, then I guess he's earned the right to claim it. If not, then you will have given him a reason to quiet down on the messageboards.
"Better than" is a highly subjective term. I think HS's only criteria for better, is how fast. I've slowed down considerably in the past few years, and HS can probably ski faster than I want to go, but probably I could outski him technically, as I think a lot on this board can, but it would never be better than HS's picture of himself in his mind. No matter who HS skis with, even if that person is faster and more technically proficient, he will find a way that justifies he is better than them, if only that his pants match his jacket better, this would be enough in HS's mind, to consider himself a better skier. When the season starts up, if things work out that way, I may take him up on the challenge, I'm sure we'll have fun at least.
post #20 of 23
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Originally Posted by Thatsagirl View Post
Now, Paul, I don't think that's what HS has in mind at all. That would be NO FUN!

Thatsagirl
Me either:
post #21 of 23
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Originally Posted by 2-turn View Post
"Better than" is a highly subjective term. I think HS's only criteria for better, is how fast. I've slowed down considerably in the past few years, and HS can probably ski faster than I want to go, but probably I could outski him technically, as I think a lot on this board can, but it would never be better than HS's picture of himself in his mind. No matter who HS skis with, even if that person is faster and more technically proficient, he will find a way that justifies he is better than them, if only that his pants match his jacket better, this would be enough in HS's mind, to consider himself a better skier. When the season starts up, if things work out that way, I may take him up on the challenge, I'm sure we'll have fun at least.
Point taken. I guess it'll have to be up to me then. Highway, fly on out to Cali so we can put an end to this

Seriously, though... I hope everyone that makes it out for this event has a good time. Highway and co., good luck on the teaching and improving, and on finding an acceptable definition of 'better than'!
post #22 of 23
I think at the end of the day or the 600 posts HS''s request for MA ended up being, which ever comes first, we need to see a video of a "technically correct" skier skiing the same terrain HS submitted in his video. Proably the turns on the top of SuperStar would be the best basis for comparison. But his skiing in rock croppings and off piste really need to be evaluated on the basis of where he is skiing. I think HS video represented very good skiing on tough terrain in demanding conditions. I think there's a big difference between skiing well off piste in demanding conditins versus skiing well on the groomed. Most of the MA video submitted is taken on groomed terrain.
I know I ski worse when I get off the groomed and I also acknowledge that skiing off piste surfaces deficiencies in my skiing.

Anyway, he's calling his critics out. I think HS is a fearless skier that is in his element off piste would be very difficult to keep up. I'm not sure that makes him a superior skier over a very technically competent groomed skier, but I also think an inexperienced off piste skier would be at a great disadvantage to try and keep up.

Who's the better skier, we could have another 600 posts on that one and never reach consensus. My 2 cents is HS can really ski, but that doesn't diminish the skiing of others here on the forum that have submitted their own skiing for MA. That's the beauty of skiing, the lift takes us to the top and we're free to pick our path to the bottom and ski in a manner that provides each of us the most pleasure.
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wise man.


EDIT: Oops. That looks like I'm pointing to myself. I was trying to point to roundturns. Roundturns is wise. There.
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