Originally Posted by SoftSnowGuy
I'm sorry, but those videos showed me very consistent mediocre skiing. Lots of twist & skid, little use of the ski's sidecut, and potential real trouble taking that technique into difficult snow--note the times he hit a small pile of snow and lost his consistency. I was dissatisfied with my ski technique at that level long ago.
I think that is a bit harsh, but not incorrect. Watching those short turns I kept thinking he looked like he was uncomfortably trying to look clean while making short turns on big straight GS boards.
There is a sort of disconnect in the movement pattern at the transition and top of the turn. Where there should be a fluid beginning of a turn (pivot or not) it seems there is sort of a well concealed step.
Originally Posted by StevensMan
There is no doubt about HH skiing ability, he is great skier. So what is your expectation of PSIA LIII skiing level?
To help me understand where are you coming from, how can you honestly access your skiing? Do you have teaching or racing experinece?
I see that you are in Washington state - where do you normally ski? Maybe we can ski together some day. I do not want to check who's skis are longer and stiffer but hope to learn from you - you passed this level of skiing long time ago so you must be pretty good.
I know this wasn't addressed to me, but I'd like to make a couple notes.
That vid of HH shows efficient, competent skiing. It doesn't show anything that I find particularly impressive or too lofty for the average epicskier to aspire to. It is just thoroughly good skiing in a common situation, not bashing gates in record time or hucking meat in the sketchlands.
You say you've only skied for six years....and you've passed a LIII exam. That is awesome in itself, there is no need to take SoftSnow's comment about passing that level a while ago as offensive. There is a lack of fluidity and comfort in your skiing that is unsurprising given the nature of PSIAness and your relative lack of time on snow.
I probably wouldn't pass a LIII skiing exam, but I too feel I've passed the level of comfort you demonstrate in those vids. This doesn't make me better, only more comfortable.
FWIW, I took a PSIA ski-school lesson last year for the first time in almost a decade. My instructor was a LIII and his skiing was very good. There were things about his skiing that could have been better, but that is irrelevant. What matters is that he helped me with my
skiing. As noted by others, its fallacious to ascribe teaching skill to someone by virtue of their own mastery of the task. So to answer your question, I think it is completely unimportant for a instructor to be a hot skier.
Originally Posted by StevensMan
Another thing I want to say to everyone who says that skiing to the tasks looks bad. Many who never tried this actually have no idea how difficult it may be. Just go and try it sometimes and do not forget to film it and then see if you video is good enough to put it here - you would be surprised but skiing fast and hard is much simpler. Many people are concerned that this "task" skiing became a trademark of instructors and I'm concerned as well as PSIA instructor. Those tasks are extremely useful for seeing problems with someone technique but it does not mean everyone should ski like that.
I've played around with task/drill skiing enough to know how hard it can be, and how it can make you look like a doofus.
This "skiing fast is easy" copout annoys me; if it were true I would have been a much better racer.
Making long radius turns on mediocre terrain is easy, making the skis do real work at speed is not.
You blame the task, and I don't have the rubric for the task, but I find it hard to believe that not using the ski above the fall line is a desirable effect. Even when you've opened it up to "medium", it seems you need to get speed involved before you are comfortable making the skis work before the fall line. In the "short swing" example, it is understandable that there must be a strong edge engagement, but I can see you have plenty of shape on those skis to make them work all the way through the turn in the other radiuses you demonstrate.
Originally Posted by PSIA
Edge Control Movements (Level III Advanced zone terrain, speed, and dynamics)
a. Begin tipping of the skis from uphill edges to the downhill edges before turning
the skis toward the fall line (minimal pivoting to an edge) in most conditions on
any terrain on most mountains
b. Demonstrate progressive, dynamic increase and decrease of edge angle
throughout the phases of the turn
c. Utilize sidecut/ski design as the primary component controlling turn shape in
most conditions in most situations
To my untrained eye, your skiing on mediocre terrain has a hard time demonstrating a couple of those facets. You seem to rely on an uncomfortable edge set near the fall line and an awkward transition, without much "dynamic increase in edge angle" at the beginning of the turn.
Bob Barnes notes that the skiing for these tasks shouldn't look "impressive", which is undoubtedly true. I do feel it should look more comfortable and fluid, but maybe the PSIA really wants people to look stiff and ignore the capabilities of their equipment. I don't know. I do know that it would be better to worry about the teaching aspect than the contrived tasks on mediocre terrain aspect.
I think your skiing is impressive considering your short time on snow. I look forward to you posting more video as the season gets going.