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Replacement for Volkl Vertigo Motion?

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
I know I always preach demo, demo, demo.....but it's hard to make the hubby demo for something that's supoosed to be a surprise.

He had the Vertigo Motion 177 and loved them, but stupidly loaned them to his son who fell in love and decided not to give them back. Now I'm looking to replace them for him.

For some odd reason, he seems to be set on the 724 Pro, but I'm thinking it may be too wide for most of the skiing we do. His current quiver is 6* 168, P60 GS Racestock 180, and P60 SL Racestock 165. He's a powerful, fast skier and racer and ex-power lifter (although his technique sometimes suffer), 200-210 lbs, 5'6", 45 yr old. 98% Midwest groomed runs, but looking for a ski capable of hitting the UP and Canadian Pow and bumps, plus for trips out west.

Any suggestions on Unlimited, 724, Vertigo, or current series skis to add to the quiver?

Thanks bunches!
Kris
post #2 of 13

replacement

Hi there, I came of the vertigo motion in a 177 last year, I replaced it with the Nordica Hot Rod Top Fuel in a 178 and I couldn't be happier - more float, stiffer ski, definitley big and burly which sounds like what he wants. They are absolute tanks and and rip harder then my vertigos did. Fantastic all mountain ski - Noridca also has the Jet Fuel this year which is a little wider all the way around. If he is stricktly a Volkl guy, I'd say check out the 2007 AC3 or AC4 which are improved/stiffer then the 06 versions.
post #3 of 13
Great suggestions already. I have nothing further to add other than reaffirm the four top candidates. I have skied all four pretty extensively and personally like all four. In no particular order of preference.

Volkl-AC-3, AC-4
Nordica-Top Fuel, Jet Fuel

What color do you think he'd like best?........................

SJ
post #4 of 13
I'd think he'd be really happy with the AC3
go for it and tell him I said so!
post #5 of 13
I'd say AC4 if it has to be a Volkl, but I agree that he'd like the Jet Fuel too. He's a big guy, so skip the AC3 and Top Fuel.
post #6 of 13
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I'd say AC4 if it has to be a Volkl, but I agree that he'd like the Jet Fuel too. He's a big guy, so skip the AC3 and Top Fuel.
The Top Fuel is the stiffest in beam flex and torsionlly of the four mentioned. It is enough for any body.

SJ
post #7 of 13
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I'd say AC4 if it has to be a Volkl, but I agree that he'd like the Jet Fuel too. He's a big guy, so skip the AC3 and Top Fuel.
Oh, I've met volklgirl and her husband. It has to be volkl!


He may like the AC4, but with his skiing style I think he'll like the AC3 Better. I could be wrong. I have been wrong before, but I don't want that to get out.
post #8 of 13
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The Top Fuel is the stiffest in beam flex and torsionlly of the four mentioned. It is enough for any body.

SJ
I'm not saying it's not stiff enough, but he's a big guy. He might as well have the fatter of the two if he's looking for some offpiste action. Anyway, it appears that Nordica is not on the table.
post #9 of 13
I'm sticking with the AC4 as well. He has loads of skis up to 70 mm at the waist. Time to move into the 80s for those more fun days. The feel of a bigger platform in a versitile ski with enough side cut to take on the hard conditions will be a whole new experience. Don't be timid on this, get the bigger ski.
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I'm sticking with the AC4 as well. He has loads of skis up to 70 mm at the waist. Time to move into the 80s for those more fun days. The feel of a bigger platform in a versitile ski with enough side cut to take on the hard conditions will be a whole new experience. Don't be timid on this, get the bigger ski.
Cirque at 210 lbs maybe 184 AC4 vs the 177? Perhaps 184 Volkl Karma could jump into the mix? Ski a bit shorter with the turned up tail but still burly enuff for a big fella? You have a bud who raves about the Karma for all mountain skiing don't you? Might not the Karma be a better choice for the bumps the target skier enjoys?

Maybe HB can chime in too.
post #11 of 13
Well... I've demoed all the new Volkl skis mentioned and find them significantly stiffer than the Vertigo Motion (which I still own). The closest to feel and dimensions to the Motion I've found (and I bought them last year) is the Fischer RX9. Put them base to base with the Volkls and they're virtually identical. Similar feel; a bit more dynamic.

By the way, if your husband wants my Motions (170 length and very good condition), I'll give him a great deal! Good luck!
post #12 of 13
Thread Starter 
Hey everybody,

Thanks for the input! He found Grizzly's 724s on e-bay and is bidding on them (so be nice and don't bid against him ) .

So much for the surprise .
post #13 of 13
Sorry I ruined the surprise

I agree the 724pro's are an excellent choice for what you descibe. The AC4's are a better soft snow ski, but are definitely slower edge to edge and softer torsionally than the 724s.

But I must disagree about the bidding against him part.
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