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post #1 of 40
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My son is a junior in high school. He loves to snowboard and fish. A New England school is a possibility; however, I suggested looking westward as well. Do any of you know what colleges/universities have great skiing and fishing near campus? My son plans to be a secondary education major (teaching). Thanks for any tips you can offer!
post #2 of 40
Don't short change the East. I went to University of Vermont,and my son is currently in Plattsburgh.
post #3 of 40
I go to the university of Washington and I love it. Skiing is a hour from campus and there are numerous places to fish, hike, camp, rock climb, basically any outdoor activity. I love it here and highly reccomend it. I would also look into colarado school. It is also a very nice area.
post #4 of 40
Montana State in Bozeman:
- Bridger: ~45 min.
- Big Sky: ~1 h 15. min.
- Fishing everywhere.

Washington State, maybe?
post #5 of 40
If you've got the scratch for the out-of-state tuition, try my alma mater CU/Boulder, also known as Ski-U. For quick class cutting, highly underrated Eldora is just minutes away, and the rest of 'em are a bit further up.
post #6 of 40
Washington state is a great choice.

Bellingham WA has Western Washington University and is 56 miles from Mt Baker.

Seattle metro area has U of Washington and several good private schools. 1.5 hrs from Stevens Pass, <1 hr to Alpental/Summit at Snoqualmie, 2 hrs to Crystal Mtn, 2.75 hrs to Mt Baker.

Portland has Reed College, access to Mt Hood areas. Eugene has U of Oregon, a little further to skiing, but not too bad.

Medford Oregon has University of Southern Oregon, Mt Ashland - 20 min drive - is pretty good skiing, city owned and cheap, and great access to lots of wilderness areas within a short drive.

Missoula Mt has U of Montana and Montana Snowbowl is close and you could drive to Big Sky or Big Mtn for the weekend, or to Schweitzer Mtn.

Never skied there, but Bridger Bowl near Bozeman is supposed to be a fantastic but lesser known ski area. Municipally owned, has pretty cheap season passes.

Look unto Vancouver BC. Not sure how easy it is to attend for US citizens, but the exchange rate is great and Vancouver is awesomely located for outdoor sports. You can catch a city bus and be skiing at Grouse Mtn in 20 minutes, drive 20 minutes for better skiing at Cypress or drive 1.5 hrs and be at Whistler. Wilderness starts at city limits of North Van.

Good luck.

[ April 28, 2002, 06:09 PM: Message edited by: darrellcraig ]
post #7 of 40
I'll second my alma mater - the University of Vermont. Skiing is 45 minutes away tops - and I believe Stowe, Sugarbush, and Smuggler's all offer discounted passes. There are plenty of streams, lakes, and rivers for fishing. Plus Burlington is one great college town.
post #8 of 40
great respones from all you guys but hey if your son is REALLY desperate he could always come to London (UK by the way!) where the fabulous Milton Keynes Snodome is approx 40 minutes away!!!

Perfect powder and virgin pistes, what's that in comparison to a fabulous hangar filled with snow!

Sorry Fox I couldn't resist that dig and I am feeling ever so jealous that American students can select unis based on their proximity to ski slopes....

On a less sarcastic note, I would go for jamedeluxe's choic of CU in boulder. I have heard great stories about it and my brother was due to spend a year there as part of his university course...until he changed his degree (silly boy!)
post #9 of 40
The University of Utah should also be looked at. I don't know much about the education there, but my girlfriend is doing her masters there, and has mentioned that it is a leading school in her field. Distance to 7 major ski resorts; 45 minutes or less. Price of a student pass this season at Alta; $475. Fishing is close by, but great fishing is a few hours away at the Green River. Good luck.
post #10 of 40
I'll third my Alma Mater. UVM is a great school. Llama said it all.
Go U Cats!
post #11 of 40
Montana State sounds like it would fit your son's needs.

It also depends on how much driving your son is willing to do. Spokane (Gonzaga U or Eastern Washington) has awesome skiing and fishing within a two hour radius. As well Spokane has a very competitive airline market.

Montana State is the choice if he needs public trans.

PS I'm from the east, the fishing and skiing out West is much better than any other place in the northern hemisphere.
post #12 of 40

I'm sort of going through the same thing your son is. I just applied and got accepted to UVM, Univ. of Puget Sound, Univ. of Denver and Willamette in oregon. I've got to say for skiing fishing and hiking University of Denver looks awesome. There's a train from denver to Winter Park, and a free bus pass to get to the train station plus a pretty cheap seasons pass. Many, many ski areas in Colorado and the schools in a good location to get to the outdoors. I visited CU-Boulder and loved the town, campus, but it's a little further to the ski areas plus it's huge. (good or bad i guess) UVM is located in a great town, location as well. I sort of see it as the Boulder of the east, only the school is a bit smaller. Univ. of Puget Sound is great. In tacoma, not far from seatle, near a lot of ski area like crystal mtn, GREAT campus, good food, good size (3500 i think), good everything BUT expensive and I got no AID there. Willamette is also a good outdoors school but its a little further from everything. I guess the coast is suppost to be really nice though. The campus there is downright sweet, and all the classes are small because the school is small, 1600 kids. Profs are suppost to be excellent. Good food/dorms etc. Expensive, but they give out a lot of AID. I don't know much about Univ. of Washington, or Oregon but they must be cheaper and I've heard good things about them. Gotta go, Jake
post #13 of 40
What happended? Didn't you want to go to school in Orono, ME. Seriously though I'm a Mainer (originally) as well and it sounds like your leaning towards going out west but if you want some inside scoop on UVM just ask. I graduated a couple of years ago and wish I could go back.

Go U Cats!
post #14 of 40
I grew up and went to college in Colorado, attended grad school in Washington State, and now I live in New England. Having lived in all three places, I will second an earlier post that said in terms of skiing and fishing, the West is simply better than the East (with the one caveat that the striper fishing here is unbeatable). New England obviously has great educational opportunities (some of the best in the world), but the outdoor activites simply aren't as good here as they are in the West.

Washington is a great state. The skiing is superb, and highly underated. Crystal, Stevens, and Alpental are all pretty close to Seattle, and all have incredible skiing. Baker isn't too much further, and Whistler (and the interior of BC)makes for a great weekend getaway. All of these areas get huge amounts of powder, and the terrain is top notch. If there is a downside, it is that the weather is often gloomy and gray. Some poeple don't mind that, while for others it is a problem.

The fishing in Washington that you will hear about is for Salmon. There is trout fishing too, although far less so. The Yakima is a pretty good trout stream, and if you are willing to hike, there are some great lakes with trout up in the hills. Both salmon and trout fishing are farily accessible from Seattle.

Washington is a beautiful state (even more so if you can deal with the weather), and has every outdoor activity imagineable. I was at UW, and within a short radius the range of activities is limitless.

I am biased, but I think Colorado is hard to beat for a combination of skiing and fishing. The skiing is great, accessble, and now with cheap season passes, affordable too. The resorts in Colorado are world famous, and justifiably so. Good quality snow, tremendous weather, great ski towns, great terrain, unbelievable backcountry opportunities. I know if I was a student, it would be hard to say no to a season pass for less than $300.

The fishing is equally as good. There are hundreds of miles of pristine trout streams (and lots of lakes) throughout the state. Yes, they are more crowded than they used to be, but finding solitude and great fishing is still easy if you know where to look. Obviously, there is no saltwater fishing, but the fresh water is so good that I never missed the salt. If you don't want to catch trout, warmwater species are plentiful, and you can even catch landlocked salmon. I admit I may be biased, but I would find it hard to beat Colorado based on these two criteria. As with Washington, the range of other outdoor activities is essentially limitless.

There are lots of schools in Colorado -- dpending upon what you want, some are more accessible to fishing than others. CU Boulder is big, but a good school. Skiing is close (Eldora is about 20 miles away, and you can take the Boulder city bus to the slopes), and so is good fishing. CSU has good fishing too, and skiing is only a little further away. If you really want to ski and fish, consider a school like Western State in Gunnison (Crested Butte and Monarch are within 1/2 an hour, and world class trout stream right in town), or Fort Lewis in Durango (Purgatory, Silverton, Telluride, and Wolf Creek are easy day trips, and the Gold Medal Animas River runs through town). I don't know much about the education, but you could also consider Colorado Mountain College in Steamboat or Glenwood Springs (1/2 hour from Aspen/Snowmass). I have been told that CMC classes are often cancelled on powder days.

Of course, there are other great areas in the West. Utah has incredible skiing and good fishing, and of course Montana, and several other states, do too. (However, since I have not lived in either place, I will leave those states for others to discuss). I hope this helps. If you have any more questions about Washington or Colorado (or New England), feel free to drop me a PM.

post #15 of 40
As a graduate in secondary ed., let me put in a plug for my alma mater, Utah State University, located in Logan, Utah up near the Idaho border. 30 minute drive up Logan Canyon gets you to Beaver Mountain, home of the $25 day pass and NO lift lines on weekdays. A two hour drive south gets Snowbasin and Powder Mountain. A bit farther and all of the Wasatch Front awaits.

Fishing is fine in Logan Canyon (brook, brown, and cutthroat trout). Bear Lake gives you some lake trout. I don't fish so I'm out of the loop on any hot spots.

The education department at USU is quite good.

Good luck with the decision making.
post #16 of 40
As a transplant to the Portland area, I'd have to give this place high marks. In the late fall through late April it rains in town and snows (for the most part on the hill). The fishing here is nothing short of phenomenal according to my ichthyologist buddies (did I get that right ?) Lot's of folks in my neighborhood work for the fish labs trying to bring back the salmon and steelhead runs. Very long ski season here. Lot's of other out doors stuff hiking, cycling and kayaking are tops! Portland itself is a very cultural town. Lot's of stuff going on and a very Green Ethic. Somewhat more laid back than Seattle. Your son should give the Portland schools a serious look.
post #17 of 40
Don't really know about fishing but

Univ of Nevada Reno Lake Tahoe ski areas

Western State Univ Gunnison CO Crested Butte

Boise State or Albertson College of Idaho, Boise ID, Bogus Basin, Brundage, SunValley

Western Washington Univ. Bellingham WA, Mt Baker, Whistler/ Blackcomb, Puget Sound and Ocean and river fishing

Central WA univ , Ellensburg WA, Alpental, Stevens Pass, Mission Ridge
post #18 of 40
I used to live in Colorado, and will be returning in the fall to attend CU at Boulder. My first choice was Dartmouth, but I did not get accepted. Im sure the skiing and fishing will be better, but I wish is was at a smaller school.
post #19 of 40

No I didn't want to stay in Maine- even though its a cool state. I liked UVM a lot, but wanted somthing maybe a bit smaller and wanted to be out west. Just signed the envolope for WU [img]smile.gif[/img] it was a hard decision.
post #20 of 40
Originally posted by kb1dqh:
...Just signed the envolope for WU [img]smile.gif[/img] it was a hard decision.
Jake -

Hi and congrats! From the little bit I know about you, I'm certain you would thrive at whatever school you picked - you're adaptable and smart. One word of old-fart advice, tho: Don't neglect your academic studies and go ga-ga over all the skiing possibilities, the wonderful brand new enviroment you will find yourself in, and the exciting new freedoms that you have. Over the years (decades), I've seen many extremely bright and talented young people do this in their first couple of semesters at college, and it really takes a while to get back on track if this happens.

Your academic studies are your key to a million career paths. OTOH, your skiing while at college will likely open many fewer career possibilities, but it will open a lifetime of recreational enjoyment.

Just $0.02 from the middle-aged old codger .

Tom / PM

PS - Thanks again for the deal on your old 9.16's. I can't wait to try them next season. It was good meeting you up at SR.
post #21 of 40
kb1dqh, Can you clarify the U you are referring to with WU (UW?)? Also, what factors resulted in this choice? My son is also a high school junior and very interesting in going to a school near skiing so this discussion is of great interest.

Does anyone know much about the U. of Vancouver?

Also, I have a cousin (a writer) who lives in Burlington and is not very high on U. Vermont. It would be great to hear from someone who went there about pros and cons (academic, social, skiing, sports, etc.)
post #22 of 40
How about UC Davis? Roughly two hours from Tahoe resorts, and there seems to be pretty good fishing in rivers and lakes of northern CA. rick p
post #23 of 40
PM- thx for the advise and it was great meeting you up at Sunday RIver!

Si- WU is the same as Willamette University. The most important factor to me was acedemics. I was looking for small classes where class discussions were the norm and debates sprung. I wanted a school where every once in a while a prof will invite his students to dinner. I also was looking for a student body that was open minded to diffferent people, and different ways of thinking. Not quite as important to me was the schools reputation, although I did consider that as well, but I think the bottom line is school rep doesn't mean all that much unless your in an IVY school. Besides those things I was looking for the outdoors and west. Salem Oregon, where the school is located, is not quite in the middle of the mtns, but its not far to some of the volcanoes, and easily drivable to the cascades in washington and the olympics, plus Portland is only about 45 min. away, so there's a city, albeit not huge, but still a city. I was looking for a school that offered internships or co-ops, so I can get in work experience during school which Willamette did offer, but since the schools not in a big city the options are limited w/o a car. FInally campus setting, food, and dorms were thought of. Also, I wanted to make sure the school had a good study abroad program which most schools do.

As far as what I know of UVM is that the schools changed a lot since the 70's or 80's. It used to be considered almost IVY like, but I don't think it has the same rep now. Not to take anything away from it, acedemically it still is suppost to be good, and I not having been to classes there may be wrong. I'm sure that it has turned into a party school though. Although acedmics are stressed, so are the parties. Of course, who could ask for a better town than Burlington? Living in Maine I have some friends who are going to UVM next fall.

In any case, I would defiantly suggest visiting any school that you are serious in. Before I visited WIllamette I wasn't sure it would be for me. I thought it might be too small and isolated, but after sitting in on a few classes and walking through the campus and talking to students I realized that that school was one of my top choices! On the other hand, I visited University of COlorado in Boulder which is in a great spot, but the class I sat in on was taught by a TA who thought I was a student there. When I talked to him after class it took a minute for him to understand I was not part of the class! Oh yeah, I also wanted a school where the profs teach entry level cources, not TA's. Well, that's my long winded rant colleges.
post #24 of 40
One last thing- I know web sites are propagands but...

Willamette- www.willamette.edu
UVM- www.uvm.edu
CU-Boulder- www.colorado.edu

I guess it's easy enough to figure them out [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #25 of 40
kb1dqh, Thanks so much for you thoughts and impressions - very helpful.

It's too bad that Montana State isn't a bit higher in it's academic ratings. I know my son would be thrilled with Bozeman, Bridger, Big Sky and the mountains of Montana as we have visited there a number of times. Unfortunately, MSU also has a reputation for the 6, 7, 8 ... year plan based on the proximity and lure of Bridger.

Has anyone looked into the University of Utah in Salt Lake. It's kind of a "3rd tier" school (U.S. News, etc.) but is certainly known for some top graduate programs. I have a colleague who is a professor there and says that while it isn't the most fantastic undergraduate environment (lots of commuters and other issues) an undergraduate can still get a very solid and reasonable education. Of course the location in terms of skiing, mountains, and outdoor activities has got to be considered way up there. Anyone care to comment on the undergraduate experience there? Bill, do you know much about the undergraduate experience at this neighboring institutuion?
post #26 of 40
As a graduate of UVM I will be honest in the fact that UVM has had a tough go of it for the past 5+ years. It has alot to do with the fact that it is a public school that recieves next to zero funding from the state and has seen a rise in tuition as a result that has significantly droped the number of incoming freshmen. With less people going and the need for more funding the academics suffered only slightly in my oppinion. We have a new President which is very good news, and everything I have read paints the outlook for the school in a positive light. I personally got a tremendous education there. I challenged myself though. I think that is a key to making the school work for you. There are some brilliant scholars there and they are willing,if you put the time in, to go to bat for you afterward. I would say that my letter of reference I recieved from my mentor there got me my first job. I also managed to coach skiing for four years on the weekends to pay for extracurricular activities as well. Take a hard look and talk to people, it's a great place.

GO U Cats!
post #27 of 40

My grandmother got her teaching "degree" from the U of U during WWI. My dad got his medical degree from U of U back in '52. A brother-in-law got an undergraduate degree in physics from this same institution. All seemed to speak highly of the quality of education received. Other than their testimonies, I can't help you much.

Another possibility is Westminster College, a 4 year liberal arts college located a few blocks south of the U of U campus.
post #28 of 40
Albertson College in Caldwell Idaho (30 miles from
Boise). This is an extremely high rated private college that specializes in Pre-Med. Bogus Basin
(with $199 season pass) is 45 minutes away. Sun Valley is 2 and half hour drive. Utah resorts, Big Sky Montana, Jackson hole all within 5 to 6 hours.
post #29 of 40
As far as what I know of UVM is that the schools changed a lot since the 70's or 80's. It used to be considered almost IVY like, but I don't think it has the same rep now.
UVM used to have the rep as a haven for prep school kids who couldn't quite get into the ivys. It used to have an excellent reputation but that slid substantially over the last decade.

If you look at objective criteria like average SAT scores (adjusted to before they started padding SAT results), UVM isn't doing very well these days in attracting quality students. They now market the place to wealthy suburban kids with bad grades and low test scores who want to go to a party school. I stopped donating money about 10 years ago.... too bad.
post #30 of 40
Originally posted by Si:
Has anyone looked into the University of Utah in Salt Lake. It's kind of a "3rd tier" school (U.S. News, etc.) but is certainly known for some top graduate programs. I have a colleague who is a professor there and says that while it isn't the most fantastic undergraduate environment (lots of commuters and other issues) an undergraduate can still get a very solid and reasonable education. Of course the location in terms of skiing, mountains, and outdoor activities has got to be considered way up there. Anyone care to comment on the undergraduate experience there? Bill, do you know much about the undergraduate experience at this neighboring institutuion?
Si, if I was your son, I'd stay in-state and go to MSU for undergrad. Undergraduate studies are really one of MSU's stronger points, if you can find the balance between studying & socializing.

I chimed in because I considered CU Boulder, U of M, and U of U before deciding on MSU. And now I'm heavily leaning toward U of U and Washington for grad school. I don't regret my decision, even if it did keep me away from any real mountains for 4 years.

It all comes down to your son's priorities. I knew mine & made the choice accordingly. Knowing what you want to study helps too, but that's not always a realistic expectation of someone coming out of high school.
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