Originally Posted by Highway Star
Rick, I'd like to thank you for looking at the clip in detail, but I don't think you are reading it quite right, and neither is Greg. Skidude72 is. I'm looking at the high-rez DV capture, and can go frame by frame, back and forth, to see eaxctly what I'm doing. Let's focus on some of the better turns, since some are better than others, such as the last few right turns.
You say I'm falling onto the inside ski as I'm completing the turn, because it is signifigantly ahead of me. It may appear that way to you, but that is not the case. I am not weighting that ski more than 10-20% as I finish the turn, or anywhere else for that matter. Look at the vidcap I posted (where I say greg is blind)......the inside ski is not bent, and there is little spray coming off it - any spray there is coming from it skidding along the snow. Look at where my pelvis is in relation to my outside foot....basicly right over the toe, and I am intentionally lining up most of my body mass of that point - head/upright torso/pelvis/slightly straight leg. Is this lazy? Sure! But it seems to work well as a way to put a high load and edge angle on that outside ski, without expending too much energy, or needing to be able to squat 500 lbs.
My inside ski is forward intentionally, so I can keep it out of the way and get a high angle on my outside leg. Biomechanicly, where do you suggest I put that leg?.....because I don't see it fitting next to my outside leg and the snow....there isn't room!!! Look at how close my outside knee is to my inside boot! No, I'm not going to stop skiing a high edge angle on my outside ski, that's how I want to ski! I want MORE!
What I am doing, as skidude72 has said, is slightly loading the front of the outside ski just as I finish the turn, coming across the fall line, and that's how I get shot upright in the transition. I do "launch forward" as you say, but it's not caused by a "forward extension". It's caused by me generating an uphill force from the ski as it comes across the fall line that works against, but under my center of mass and momentum, creating a moment (rotational force), that brings me upright. Again, yes, this is lazy, and does look abrupt, like I'm poping up out of the turn because it happens so fast........I go from a 30-40 degree edge angle to upright in a split second. If you watch my arm movements, you'll also see that my outside arm comes up and over simultaniously with this "launch", compounding the force slightly, and bringing me upright faster. (though, overall my arm movements are excessive)
So then why am I doing this? I don't really know. But from what I see in the video, once I am upright, I have a split second of low weight where I roll the ski up on an initial, fairly high edge angle around the 30 to 40 degree range, before I start laying into the center of the ski. I'm obviously not pressuring the tip. If I'm traveling 45 degrees from the fall line between turns, it looks like this happens in about 10-15 degrees, leaving about 30 degrees to where I'm traveling down the fall line mid turn. I am not pivoting (unless I do it intentionally, like before the last turn as I cross the camera). When I look at my tracks, almost all the time my turn initiation with the outside ski is basicly parallel to the exit of the last turn. It's just that there's not much weighting going on during this period, and thus no snow spray.....I'm quickly rolling the ski over before I weight it.
Is it a prefered technique? No, of course not. What is all this doing for me? I'm not quite sure....certainly some bad things, but some good things too. I'm not getting accellerated out of the turn, but I'm not sure I want that....I'm not racing, and I'm already skiing fast. I can hit a slightly a higher edge angle sooner, get lower mid turn, Keep my torso more upright, and bend a ski easier, but it's not much of an improvement over good gs technique to justify the drawbacks.
I think the main things I'll take way from this is the tip/tail loading, and how it effects my turn initiation and exit. Ditto for the balance and hand motion. I'll probably stick with the heavy outside ski weighting, and high edge angle with the scissoring, but perhaps try to angle my inside ski more agressively, and keep it slightly more back, so it doesn't look as excessive. I'll try not to come out of the turn off the front as discussed, and use the tail to harness the energy of the turn into forward motion as opposed to using the front to generate upward motion. I'll also incorporate more tip loading in the initiation, but probably try to retain the early/quick roll to the high edge angle. But I am still going to ski big skis, too fast, and do highly unorthidox things whenever I damn well feel like it....that's the fun of skiing......to me, it's NOT fun to ski like a Racer Robot like my buddy Greg.
I'd also like to note that I'm a quite versitile and adaptable skier, but highly variable. I've never said I'm technically good and correct all the time....no way! I try all sorts of things all the time, but sometimes I ski well, and sometimes I don't. These videos only show fraction of the ways that I ski. I'll often ski 3 different techniques in a run. Yes, am overly fast and agressive, but know where to fight my battles, and thus don't crash very often. I'm constantly looking for harder terrain, tricky snow, and trying to ski it with a creative line. I also ski many different skis, and they require nuances of technique. I can change and adapt quite quickly, and now that I know what I'm looking for I should be able to incorporate those things pretty well. Thanks!!!