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post #61 of 104
question 66
Hey Jeff,

Thank you in advance. You are helping us a lot!

Background: Male skier with a relatively narrow foot, 5'9,160lbs. I am an advanced skier looking for a semi-race or full race boot. There are three boots on my list: the Atomic RT Ti; RT CS and Nordica Dobermann Pro
I need to know some things about the differences in fit between the boots. Please give me your opinion on the boots assuming they are all the correct size. I know that all of them run big.


1. what are the differences in fit between the Race Tech Ti and CS? I hear that the latter is wider throughout but is it noticeably wider in the ankle/heel, mid foot and fore foot?

2. What are the differences in fit between the Race Tech Ti and Dobermann Pro? Is the Dobie Pro noticeably wider in the fore foot, mid foot and ankle/heel area?

3. What are the differences in fit between the Race Tech CS and Dobermann Pro? Is the CS noticeably wider in the fore foot?

4. Is the CS noticeably narrower in the mid foot and ankle/heel area than the Dobermann Pro?

Thanks for helping us out!


Call me RT-TI 130. Anyway....

I believe these have all been covered, but I will give them a bit more attention.

1. The CS has a thinner, wider shell, but a thicker liner. Their fits are very similar, at least until the CS start packing out.
2. AGAIN, the Dobie Pro is slightly narrower in the forefoot, wider in the heel, higher in the instep, and does not have much for ankle pockets. IMO.
3. I think has been covered.
4. Yes, except the CS has ankle pockets so it may not seem any tighter. (It just fits most people better.)
post #62 of 104
question 67
Hi Jeff,
Thank you for providing this service!

I am 48yrs old, 5'8" 150 lbs advanced skier 30 plus days per year.
Teach part time, race occasionally weekend club league, NASTAR etc. Ski variety of terrain including bumps usually hardpacked
conditions - East
Currently on Rossi Race 3 ( softest of the race that year) 2000/2001 year ( I think)
Yellow/black inverted overlaps. Size 26 shell- sole 304mm
Skis: Volkl 5 stars and Fischer RX8s
Looking for advice on purchasing new boots.Was told at a Race clinic last year by the coaches to look for new boots and
preferably boots with a more upright stance.
Don't want anything too stiff.
Been trying on boots this season. Like the fit of the Falcon10- seems to fit my somwhat wide toe area and narrow heel ( with
pump bump). Was advised by shop to try the Dobermann Pro 110 which they didn't have in stock. They had the 130 so I tried it
on for sizing/feel. Felt pretty good but didn't spend much time in it. I would like to try on the Dob Pro 110 and the Falcon
10 together to make a decision but can't find the 110s andywhere. Getting mixed messages from some shops - sounds like they
are not producing them this year or weren't available to shops?? Nordica website shows that model. Do you know the story on
these boots? Are they available anywhere? I wanted to try Rossi Bandits but can't find them locally. Tecnica Diablo feel too
roomy Atomics - hot spots in several places.
1. Do my choices ( Falcon 10 and Dobermann 110) sound reasonable to you? I hear that the Falcon 10 has a thin shell - would
that pose a problem for any grinding/ punching to accomodate the bump on my heel?
2. As far as finding a more upright stance than my Rossis, which would be the better choice?
3. Any suggestions on finding a DobermannPro 110? Special order only?
Thanks in advance!

1. If you do need a more upright boot, the Dobermann 110 will probably be better than the Falcon.
2. None of the modern high end boots are more upright than your old Rossi boots. Perhaps your bindings have too much heel lift? (Or perhaps it is a internal ramp angle/ ramp profile issue?)
3. I would say come to Colorado, but these may be sold out here, too. Good luck.

Jeff Bergeron
Pres, Boot Fixation
post #63 of 104
question 68
Hi Jeff,

Background info:

29 years old male expert skier, 160lbs, 5 foot 11, i have narrow foot (don't have any size measurement but it fell pretty narrow...) . I mostly ski in the east with 2 trips to find some powder every year. I'm a agressive skier how likes off piste, powder, bumbs and a couple of jumps. I don't race race but I also like some good fast G turn...I used to have old nordica Grand prix 5 or 6 years old. They felt too soft and too large.

Yesterday i tried several boots and found myself most confortable in the Lange series. I was going to buy the freeride 120 but the seller convince me otherwise and got me to buy the Lange Freestyle (like the the Fluid 80 I thing). Saying that the 120 will be too stiff for what I do.

So I bought the Lange Freestyle 27,5 (Fluid 80)


1) Is these boots too soft for me (The flex feel very soft when I try it but it's not very cold yet). Will cold affect the flex alot?
2) Should I stay with the fluid serie or go with the freeride serie? And should I go higher in the flex number like 100 or 120?
3) One thing I'm concern about is that with the freestyle boot the two lower clip are already in the last clip position...

Thanks alot for your time and precious help!
Jeff Blouin
1. IMO opinion, you probably want a flex rated between 100 and 120. (I could not find a listing for the Lange Freestyle in the Lange catalog, but I suspect it is softer than 100.)
2. The Fluid and Freeride series are very similar, IMO.
3. Sounds bad to me.... Maybe you need the lower volume World Cup 120 in the WC (96mm), and not the 98mm HP fit.

One other option. The Atomic Race Tech CS 100 or CS 130?

Good luck,
Jeff Bergeron
Pres, Boot Fixation
post #64 of 104
question 69

Thanks again for your help, and providing this great service.

In response to question 55, you suggested that the Atomic B90 and Tecnica Diablo Magnesium would be good places for me to start in an effort to find new boots that fit my extra-wide forefoot. Though I have not been able to find a local shop that carries Atomic, I have tried on several others, including the Tecnica Diablo Magnesium, Magma, and Vento, Nordica SpeedMachine 12 and Beast 12, and Salomon X-Wave 8.

The Tecnica boots all seemed too narrow in the forefoot and toe box, as were the SpeedMachines. The closest fit for my foot shape seemed to be the Beast 12, and the X-Wave 8.

1. I am assuming that the X-Wave 10 and X-Wave 8 only differ in the flex. If I intend on skiing a lot of bumps, would it make more sense to go with the 8 instead of the 10?
2. I got the impression that the Beast 12 was a lower performance boot that packs out faster. Is this correct?

Thanks again ...

- Scott

1. Most likely, the XWave 8 will have a better flex pattern for you. Are they still making the XWave 9? (Salomon ran out of catalogs at the last trade show.)
2. The Beast 12 is actually a great skiing boot, but it does pack out faster (and more) than most boots.

Note- I have seen a fair number of shops in Summit County that carry the Atomic B90. (This is not to say that it will necessarily work for you.)
post #65 of 104
question 70
Hi Jeff,
Me: 39 years, 157 lbs, 5'6", low volume size 9 foot, aggressive male freeskier, ski 30+ days at Whistler
Boots: Solly X2-Lab (26.5), punched, uprighted, softened, Conformable foot bed, Xwave8 liner
Situation: The boot performs great but is very tempermental. I'm constantly in the shop repunching this or that. More critically, the liner is too big for the boot. Boot leaks and results in cold feet.

1) What liners would you recommend for this boot?
2) I'm considering trying this year's Falcon liner. Conformable foam liner looks nice but is very expensive.

1. IMO, why bother. It sounds like most of your problems are with the shell.
2. Given all your problems with that shell, I say why bother. Perhaps you need a Falcon or maybe another boot?

BTW, I am curious how the shop "uprighted" your boots. Did they lift the toe lug or did they try to heat the back of the shell? Could you post that?
post #66 of 104
question 71
Thanks in advance for your help.

I'm heading to Steamboat this February and plan to buy my first pair of boots. I've had a lot of problems with poor fitting rental boots. Water skied most of my life and won't be satisfied until I can consitently carve and generate the G forces I am accustomed to from water skiing.

I'm 5'8" and weigh 160lb. I wear a size 9 shoe and believe I have a rather narrow heel and somewhat wide at the front of my foot.

My goal is to find a boot that will compliment my efforts to develop consistent carves on groomed runs and allow me to ski powder and crud without too much difficulty.

1. Is this enough information for you to recommend a few specific boots that I can try on as a starting point?

2. Can you recommend a boot fitter in Steamboat?


You had me on "Water skied most of my life and won't be satisfied until I can consitently carve and generate the G forces I am accustomed to from water skiing." As an alpine racer, I felt a tear drop as I read this....

Anyway, the real question for me is- do you really mean it? The reason is, if you do mean it, you are going to need a pair of semi-race boots. Why? These are the only types of boots that offer sufficient leg hold while still allowing good free skiing.

1. My list of possible boots is going to sound like many other of my potential boot lists. Atomic Race Tech CS 100, Nordica Doberman Pro 110 or Hot Rod Nitrous, Lange (Rossi) World Cup 120HP fit. Some wild cards might be the Dalbello Proton, or the Fischer RC4 Comp.
2. I only know of one guy working in Steamboat, and his name is Derek and he works over at Sport Stalker (right at the base of the mountain). He does good work, but I have no idea what options you will have for semi-race boots at the 'boat.

Good luck,
Jeff Bergeron,
Pres, Boot Fixation
post #67 of 104
question 72
Jeff -

Thanks for all the great information you've provided on this thread!

Hoping you can help me out ...

48 yo male, 5'10", 180 lbs, somewhat wide forefoot, narrow heel, skinny ankles & calves ("chicken legs").

Level 7-8, Skiing Fischer RX-8's on the east coast ... mainly groomers with the occasional trip through bumps or trees.

Been skiing o-l-d school Tecnica TNT's (orange shell w/ purple buckles) which I loved. Tried to find an end of season bargain on a new pair of boots last year. Tried a pair of Doberman 100's which fit my ankle and calf like a glove, but felt like someone cranked too many turns on the vise around the forefoot. Also tried a leftover pair of Atomic Race 10's. Much better all around fit, but I could not get myself out of the back seat on the few runs I tried :.

This year decided to fuggedabout the bargains and go for what works and what fits.

1) Any recommendations on a boot that comes close to the old school Tecnica's in terms of fit, stance and performance?

Thanks again for your help!!
YABQ? That's pretty good...

1. Those Tecnicas were actually quite wide through the heel. As far as the stance went, they were upright with little ramp angle. Try a Lange World Cup 120 HP, or just get your current Nordicas stretched out properly. For non- semi-race boots, the Nordica Speedmachine 14 is actually quite similar, although I think you will find it wide in the heel.
post #68 of 104
question 73
Hi Jeff, fairly new to this forum, but hoping you can give me some advice/tips.

Background: 27 year old female, 5'6", 150lbs. Aggressive skier, ski all sorts of terrain (learning to survive trees and bumps currently). I'm in the Rossignol Power 9 (junior race version). Ski on a pair of Volkl G2's and Head Sweet Fat Thang's. Narrow foot all the way through, but particularly in the heel, very flat feet too. My boots were fit by a reputable bootfitter (hopefully), I have no foot beds in them currently and I've been in them for a little under 2 seasons now.

Problem: I cannot lock down my right heel (which is the smaller of my two feet). My boots were selected to fit my small foot by my bootfitter and then they punched a little for my larger foot...the rest of the boot fits really well, nice and snug, but the heel continues to lift and I have some side-to-side movement. I currently just hammer down on my ankle buckle, but then I lose a LOT of circulation and begin to get leg cramps, and it doesn't really solve the side-to-side.

1. What are some solutions for this issue? (preferably besides getting a whole new boot).

Thanks for all your time,

1. Getting a truly low volume boot is the only really good solution. As a temporary measure, you could try adding bontex shims underneath the liner (on top of the footboard) to take up extra room. Most ski shops carry these.

Good luck,
Jeff Bergeron
Pres, Boot Fixation
post #69 of 104
I visited Jeff in his shop today, and want to let you know that he's in the middle of his normal early-season slam, so be patient... I know he'll drop in here when he can!
Thanks, Steve! Very true.
post #70 of 104
question 78
Hi Jeff, really appreciate you doing this thread. I'm 5'10" 150lb...I've been skiing for 5-6 years, typically getting 15-20 days a season. I spend 65% of my time on blues and blacks, but I like to mix things up a little and head off into the trees when the conditions are right. I'm on a pair of 170cm Head Monster I.M. 72s I wear a size 10 street shoe, and am in the market for new boots. I have a high instep, wider than normal forefoot, and fairly narrow heel and calf.

1) You previously recommended I try the Falcon 10. I gave this a shot, but both times after wearing it in the shop, walking around afterwards, I've experienced sharp pains in the tendon in my lower calf. It feels like something is snapping. I have limited flexibility in my ankle, and I'm wondering if the amount of forward lean in the Falcons could have caused the pain. While I was in the boots, my calf did begin to hurt. Should I look for a boot with a more upright stance, or work on my flexibility?

2) The salesman told me that if I have limited flexibility in my ankle, I should look for a stiffer boot. Is this an accurate statement?

3) I've yet to find I boot I'm comfortable with buying. The Falcon has held my heel in place better than anything else out there, with some pain in my instep and forefoot that would require work. I tried a Nordica Hot Rod that was a good all-around fit, but was way too stiff. The Beast 10 was really comfortable, but too soft, and wasn't as close a fit as I'm looking for. Which other boots would you recommend I try?

4) Is the Dalbello Krypton worth looking at for my foot? I like the liner it comes with, but don't know if it's the right boot for me. The store I've been visiting has limited models left in my size, but I believe they may have the Krypton.

5) What should I look for to ensure that the shop is doing the right things when making my footbeds? I am going back and forth between having the shop do them, or taking whatever boots I buy to a guy who doesn't sell boots but specializes in them.

Thanks so much,

1. Ouch! Sounds like the forward lean is an issue. Without seeing you, it is impossible to tell whether you need to work on your flexibility or if your range is just limited by your bone structure. Either way, a more upright boot is probably in order. Since the Hot Rod fit, perhaps you should try it in a softer version (as in Hot Rod Nitrous or Dobermann Pro 110). The Beast will be far too wide, IMO.
2. Somewhat. Still, no matter what you are going to need a more upright boot, and a more upright boot may not have to be stiffer.
3. Covered above.
4. The Dalbello's stance should be good, but it is quite high volume and has a lower instep. Not ideal for you, IMO.
5. Pray? This depends mostly on your type of alignment and is not something I can answer here. In general, just try to find someone with a good reputation.

Good luck,
Jeff Bergeron
Pres, Boot Fixation
post #71 of 104
question 79
Hi Jeff,

Thank you for providing this great service. I have learned a lot through the years of reading your posts.

Me: Male masters racer, age 36, 155 lbs, 5’7”, size 9 street shoe
Current Boot: 2004 Atomic Race Tech, Soft, Size 24.0
Foot shape: Narrow forefoot, very narrow heel, low volume instep, high arch
Gait: Abducted stance “duck foot” while walking
Flexibility: With knees flexed 60 degrees I have 30 degrees knee rotation to the inside and only 5 degrees rotation to outside for both feet.

The new abducted stance boots appear that they would allow an additional 4-6 degrees of knee rotation to the outside which would be a great help in achieving parallel leg, two footed angulation as opposed to the out of date “A-frame” stance. I am currently on a stretching program to gain greater knee mobility through stretching the ligaments but it will likely be 2- 3 years before I get as much as 5 degrees greater mobility if then.

Background: The Race Tech is by far the best fitting and performing boot I have owned. Other previous boots have required foam or substantial liner shims and sometimes narrowing the shell by clamping the heel and heating in an oven.

The Race Tech is easier to get out of than my one size larger Lange L10’s. I spoke to a Nordica Doberman skier last year who admitted to having to drive home in his ski boots because he is unable to remove them once they become cold

  • How does the new Fischer 150 plug boot compare to the Atomic Race Tech TI for fit at heel and instep?
  • How does the Nordica Aggressor 150 plug boot compare to the Atomic Race Tech TI for fit at heel and instep?
  • How do the Fischer and the Nordica boots compare to the Atomic Soft (TI 130) for ease of entry and exit when cold?
  • Are these abducted boots suitable to help compensate for my knee flexibility issue?
Thanks in advance, Tim

First of all, I will accept the bullet points, but in the future try to use numbered questions.

1. Overall, their fits are remarkably similar. (Perhaps a little too similar....)
2. The Nordica is higher at the instep, wider at the heel, but has much smaller ankle pockets.
3. The Atomic seems to be quite a bit easier to get on and off than the other two boots.
4. Not necessarily. While I am a big fan of the abducted stance boots, I suspect you may have some trouble with the Fischer boots. To find out, try a set on and see if you still stand knock kneed. Then see if how easy or difficult it is to roll to your outside edges. Still, perhaps you will find that they work great for you....

As always, these are all IMO!

Jeff Bergeron
Pres, Boot Fixation
post #72 of 104
question 80
I am 6 foot tall, an advanced intermediate skier with Technica Diablo Magnesium boots and a superfeet kork style footbed (i.e. unweighted). I have been having problems with sixth toe syndrome even after some punching and my question is:

1). Do I punch the boots out some more, or should I do some work on the footbed. From reading this forum and some other stuff, I'm wondering if some padding under the first metatarsal would work, but I don't want to make the problem worse.

2) We'll be in Breckenridge in January - am I better just waiting until I can get to your store? I hate to put 5 or 6 days of painful skiing in before that though.

1. I doubt that adding padding to the 1st met will be helpful, although padding under the 5th met might work. Still, it is more likely that you will need better grinding and/ or punch work.
2. Why wait. Just set an appointment before you arrive and we should be able to make it work in one or two visits.

Jeff Bergeron
Pres, Boot Fixation
post #73 of 104
question 81
Hello Jef ,

and thank you for this great service to the epic community

Background: male skier, 200 lbs, 5' 11", level 7-8 skier now, 39 YO, wide forefoot, medium arch, narrow ankle , narrow to medium heel , large calf . 11 1/2 street shoes . Preferred terrain is off bounds but will do some piste skiing if i have no other choice. Havent skied last 6 years , used to ski 20+days and up to 100+ early 90s. Used to ski in the States , now Europe and snow conditions here in my hometown small hill are heavy snow and hardpack . Probably this year with Nordica Afterburners and Ficher RX8s.

My last boots were some Salomon Integras with lots and lots and some more of custom fit made by yours trully .

I have a problem with my ankle flexion. Although i have a good range of motion this range is more aft than fore. In other words my ankles dont work all that well in boots with a lot of forward lean built in . My achilles tendon is reaaally hurting every time i went skiing , especially at the begining of the season . Have tried extension exercises but they have only marginally helped .

My question is obvious i think. I need a boot with an upright stance , the more the merrier , that also has forwrad lean adjustment .
1.Which ones do you think fit the bill?
2.I cant pass by your shop , overseas and such , so what would you do in your shop (after deciding on which boot ) to lessen this problem ?

Thank U very much for your help!

1. A few boot options might be the Nordica Speedmachine 12 or 14, or the Salomon X-Wave 9 or 10's. Do not be surprised if you need to add a bit of heel lift to the Nordica's.

2. Again, you may need to lift the heel INSIDE the ski boot.

Good luck,
Jeff Bergeron
Pres, Boot Fixation
post #74 of 104
question 83
Jeff, thanks for all the help you've been here.

I'm 6'-200lbs and have intermediate to advanced skills with expert eyes. (Biting off more than I can chew is a way of life ).
I agree with Plake that groomers are evil machines and should be dealt with as such.
I have a "D" wide foot and have been skiing in Salomon Performa 9 Race boots (Salomon heat moldable liners) for a couple years, always with pain.
I'd decided to look for a softer, more comfortable boot untill reading about softening my own boots.
1-Is this something you'd recommend or not?
2-If so, what are some of the ways you'd recommend to accomplish this.
1. Since your boots are not working for you as they are, softening them may be a good option. There is one question to ask yourself first, however. Is your pain caused because you do not have enough flexion in the boot, or because the boot is forward and you do not have enough flexion in your ankle? If it is the latter, softening the boot might cause more pain.

2. Extending the V cuts would be a good place to start. (These run above the ankle bones.)

As always, IMO.

Jeff Bergeron
Pres, Boot Fixation
post #75 of 104

Just wanted to mention two things. First, be sure to use the format for any questions (as in start with background info, and number your questions). Second, I do not have the time to respond to questions that are sent to my personal email. Please, only use my personal email to contact me for appointments.

Thanks for reading,
Jeff Bergeron
Pres, Boot Fixation
post #76 of 104
question 84
from ColoradoDave

I didn't format properly, so I'll try again. Thanks for reconsidering my question and for your indulgence, Jeff et al...

Male, level 6-7 skier, 5'11", 225lbs, 48, 17 years regular skier, size 10.5 regular shoe, left foot very slightly longer than right. Not overly aggressive skier

I purchased a pair of Tecnica Vento 8's, along with custom insoles during off season. Overall fit was excellent, but immediately on the mountain I felt my big toes, especially the left, jamming hard into the front of the boot. By afternoon I was in excrutiating pain and could barely finish the day. A week and a half later, the left one still hurts, especially if I apply any downward pressure to the nail.

I brought them back in to my shop, they noticed I had the back/forward camber set to very stiff, so they loosened it up, and then took the boots in to make some more space for the big toes. They absolutely insisted that the size was right, pulled out the lining and measured a finger's worth of space behind my heel as I stood in the boot. Got them back yesterday, will try them again this Saturday.

1) does the fitting process they followed sound right?

2) They said I need to give it three or four ski days before they'll take them back and fix me up with a different pair of boots (or different size), is that reasonable?

3) One of my technical weak spots is mediocre knee-bending when I ski (I tend to be upright 80% of the time), the shop insists the boots would fit if I bent my knees properly. Is that fair - correcting my technique to make my boots fit properly?

Thanks again.

IMO.... (hope this post is not too late)

1. You did not list the size of your Vento 8's. I do have some opinions as to what is happening, however. (Will get to these below.)

2. The number of days before accepting a return is fine. Still, I would be making some modifications in the meantime, if I was involved in the job.

3. I would be astonished if it turned out that your technique is the problem. IMO, this is completely a boot problem.

Here is how I see it- though keep in mind I can only go off the limited information you presented.

The Tecnica Vento is an excellent boot, but it has two peculiarities I have noticed. First, it tends to crush the big toe, even when its length is appropriate. This means shops should modify the toe box so it does not hit on the toenail. (Not everyone needs this mod, but those who do, really need it.) Therefore they should have just ground out the toe box a bit for more height. IMO.

Two, the Vento has quite a bit of forward lean, and the Vento 8 is very soft. This means that, at your size, there is probably not enough boot there to support you. Basically, you just fall forward, even if you try to fight it. Therefore, the shop's claim that you need to work on your technique sounds very much off track. (Had they put you in a stiffer, more upright boot, then they might have had a point.)

Hope you find this helpful,

Jeff Bergeron
Pres, Boot Fixation
post #77 of 104
question 85 by kestner9
Hi Jeff,

Background: Male 26 years old, 6'1 205 athletic build, former racer. Looking for something to free ski on (east coast), spend most days on 175cm 6 Stars. I currently own the Icon Alum Comp and the Diablo Race R. Formerly used the Tecnica Explosion and haven't found a boot I like since then . . .

1. I am looking for a boot that will give me a "race-like" fit and performance but that I can ski on all day. The Icon Alum Comp is an acceptable boot, but it isn't as stiff as I would like and seems a little less performance oriented than I would like. The Race R w/ lace up liner is great but it is a little bit too low volume to ski on all day for me. However, my biggest problem with the boot is that it seems to have too much forward lean/ramp?? for me. I feel like I am way over the tips. Is there any boot in between these two you could recommend, hopefully with less forward lean than the Race R?

2. I currently own all 26.5 size boots. Back when I was racing a moved up to a 27 shell but broke it fairly quickly b/c it was too big and I was clamping the buckles down very tight to get it to perform. Now that I 85% of my skiing is recreational should I go to a bigger size? I wear a 10.5 Nike or New Balance running shoe, 9.5M in a "real" dress shoe and a 10 in most other shoes.

1. You mention that you were a big fan of the Tecnica Explosion boot, so perhaps you should look for a boot that is similar to it. (Better yet, one with similar geometry but with a tighter heel pocket.) Unfortunately, for you, Tecnica is not it. The newer boots have more forward lean and are softer. IMO, you should probably try the Lange World Cup (or similar Rossignol) in a stiffer flex, (as a guess their 150 which is much softer than it sounds. Another boot that may be worth trying could be the Nordica Dobermann Pro 130. (Note that you may want to lower the heel of the footboard with the Dobermann.)

2. Unless you have a super high instep, you will probably do better with a size 26 shell. IMO.

Good luck,
Jeff Bergeron
Pres, Boot Fixation
post #78 of 104
question 86 from tdk6
Hi Jeff

Let me rewrite my original question #61. Ill try to stick better to the format.

Age: 44
Years on ski: 40, instructor since 94
Height: 190kg 6foot2
Weight: 93kg
Ski: SL and GS racing skis mainly
Boots: Nordica The Beast 2003 model with black spoiler size 29.5 335mm
Skiing ref: http://ski.topeverything.com/default...nt&ID=EA362674

Boot Background
Skied with a pair of 340mm Dynafit F3 with Conformable foam linear from 89 to 02. Great boot, great fit, shell eventually came apart.
Bought a pair of Nordica The Beast fitted with the black spoiler back in 2003. The boot was way too narrow for my foot so a boot fitter widened it for me. It was a bit too short as well so he made it a few mm longer. He draw a pickture of my foot and cut out a cardboard. Then he widened the boot untill the cardboard tenplate would fit. However, I feel he made the boot too flat at the bottom and the linear is a joke. No shape to it, just stick your foot into the boot and tighten untill it feels ok which does not happen. The pressure points are gone though so he got that right. My old Conformable foam linears had a much more supporting shape arround the bottom of my foot and no pressure points. I didnt even have to buckle up porperly. They also had very nice custom footbeads. Since the Nordicas dont fit as well as the Dynafits I have two options:
1. buy new foam linear to the Nordicas
2. buy new boots.
Lets explore the new boots option.

Foot properties
If I fit my foot in a box the box would be 295-300mm x 100-110mm. Bones sticking out are one sharp on the outside part of the foot a little less than half way and then the bone where my little toe is attached. Those cause pain in ski boots. Right foot is worse than left. My instep is not high, averidge or even low for foot size.

Atomic fit surprisingly good!
I tried the Atomic Race Tech CS 100 size 29 and they fit remarcably well. In fact very well. I was surpriced. No pressurepoints and nice arround the heel. But the fit was not 100% gripping my foot, it felt kind of weard arround the top of my ancle. Like there was nothing there. Also the flex was really really soft! Whats up with the flex? My Nordicas are much much stiffer. I thaught these were racing boots.

1. Did my bootfitter do a poor job?
2. Is my right size 29 or 30? (I left out the 29,5 since its the same shell size)
3. Is the Atomic Race Tech CS 100 the right boot for me?
4. Is the Atomic Race Tech CS 130 same boot only stiffer?
5. Is the Head RS 110 Superheat3 an option for me? I can buy Head boots with good disscount but the racing boots have to be ordered and I have to buy if I do.
6. Is the new Speedmashine 14 (size 30 this time) an option for me? I get good disscount on Nordicas as well.

Thanks in advance


First of all, are you sick of the WRC being ruled by Loeb/ Citroen? They killed everyone at Monte Carlo this weekend. Still, I was happy to see that Gronholm raced for points, instead of going for the win and crashing. Anyway....

IMO, if you can comfortably get your foot into the Atomic Race Tech CS shell, then you should try to go that way. It is simply an incredible boot. If you have to, start with the CS 130 shell (the 100 is for very light people) and add a thicker liner at some point. Another good shell is the Nordica Dobermann Pro 130/ and or Hot Rod Top Fuel. Now back to your questions.

1. The method sounded odd, but I am not sure that I got a clear picture of it from your description.
2. In a semi race boot like the Race Tech CS or the Dobermann Pro, 29 is probably the right size. If you can comfortably use these boots than the other listed boots are, IMO, a poor option.
3. No, but the Race Tech CS 130 mnight be great! (Note- I was in meeting with some people from the Atomic factory and they discussed some interest in making a Race Tech CS 150. Not sure if they have decided to pursue that, however.
4. Yes, and for you, better.
5. This is a good boot, but I suspect it will not be wide enough in the forefoot for you. Still, it could be modified.
6. Not in my opinion. Try the Dobermann Pro 130 or the Hot Rod Top Fuel instead.

(BTW, I watched your video and you ski well. You should be on semi-race boots or better, IMO.)

Now my question for you. Who will win WRC Sweden and Norway?

Good luck,
Jeff Bergeron
Pres, Boot Fixation
post #79 of 104
question 88 by Nantucket Red
Hi Jeff,

Thanks for taking the time to answer all of these questions. I am 6'4" 235lbs and a level 8+ skier. I live in the east and split my time between East and West 50/50 and split my time on and off piste 50/50 (I know, not much help). Basically I am all over the place and like to ski (hard) anywhere. I have a thin heel and a pretty medium to low in step, but overall a pretty average foot...nothing funky (except for the smell).

I had a pair of (02/03) Tecnica Icon DP HOT FORM boots for the last couple of years and recently lost them in a move. I wear a size 12/12.5 street shoe, but had these in a 11.5. I think losing these could be a blessing in disguise as I had some real bad chaffing issues on my Achilles tendon. I am now looking for new boots. I ski a Fischer RX 9 (if that is relevant?).

1. Were these the right boots for me? Maybe too soft or maybe I don't have a "tecnica foot"? Prior to these I had a pair of Lange XR 8.5 for YEARS and I loved them, but they got too soft.

2. What other brands would you reccommend and what other models?

3. Did I buy too small? I like a real snug fit, but maybe I over did it?

Thanks for your help!


You did not give me a lot of info to go off of, but here are some opinions/ guesses.

1. If you did not love these boots as much as your old Lange's, then they were certainly not perfect. Perhaps you should look for boots more similar to your old Lange's, only in a stiffer flex. This type of boot would have a flatter ramp angle and more forward lean.

2. Tecnica Diablo Magma might be nice. (It is very different from your old Tecnica, and far more similar to your old Lange boot.)

3. IMO, the smaller size should have been fine. You just needed a bit of fitting.
post #80 of 104
question 89 by Summit
Hi Jeff,

Thank you so much for taking the time to answer these questions.
PS: my brother is still talking about how much easier it is to ski after you fixed his boots and did a custom mount.


Stats: I am a 25 y/o 5'9.5" 150lbs skier. Foot is med-wide forefoot, high instep, med-narrow heel.

Current gear: Nordica Beast (original shopboot from 02-03 /w boosters and orthotics) Garmont G-Ride G-Fit 26.5 (modified with boosters and Flexon Race tongues), Volkl P60 190 GS (P12), Volant Spatulas 186 (P12), Volkl Gotama 183 (NX21), K2 PE 179 (P12ti), BD Havoc 173 (TLT comforts)

Skiing type: I put in about 110+ days a year, 60+% OB/touring 40% in area (85% "off piste" 15% groomed) around SuCo. I am skiing... everything. Steeper the deeper the bigger the better. When touring I'm going for chutes
My ski tips
That's a small one. I don't like to go bigger than 30.

But most of all, going for powder.

Inbounds, I'm going after powder followed by trees, bumps, and rocks. Of course, I have some 190 GS sticks for fun speed when night skiing. On occaision I'll invert or spin but it's not that common.

Touring Boots: For touring I try to use my alpine boots unless it is something more than a short (more than 2500 vert, more than 3 miles, or requires walking on rocks) because I hate te low cut soft AT boots that deform my calves when tightened sufficiently (and they are still soft and unsupportive). I'm thinking of switching to Megarides for dynafit compatibility and possibly adding intuition liners and dalbello krypton stiff tongues instead of the now broken raichle tongues.

Alpine: The Beasts have about 400 days on them. They are sloppy inside now, especially in the heel and ankle. They were a great fit after the first 20 days of forefoot pain. I never needed to buckle anything but the two cuff buckles and the power strap (which I replaced with a booster strap when the stock ran out). I've replaced the heel piece 2X and it needs a third replacement now (in other words I use my boots a long time). I love the high cuff, tongue wedge spoiler, and progressive flex. The only downside is that they are beasts (they weigh 14lbs for the pair).

Alpine Boots Tried: I've tried the Magma (bad instep pain, low cuff), Beast 12 (low cuff, dead flex), and X-Wave 10 (bad instep pain, good flex) all of those too soft. I tried the Hot Rod Top Fuel in a 25 and love it except for some instep pressure and it is insanely stiff compared to my Beasts. I think I like the Speed Machine 14. I need to go back and try the Top Fuel 25 with my orthotics and my usual ultimax thin socks (had medium socks on) and I need to try the Speed Machine 14 in a 25.5 (26/26.5 shell was too big).

1. Can you please contrast the Speed Machhine 14 vs Hot Rod Top Fuel for fit, performance, and longevity (including liners)

2. I think the Top Fuel is quite possibly going to be too stiff especially for some landings and some powder. Can the Top Fuel be softened? Could the instep be dealt with if the orthotics + thin socks don't alleviate the problem?

3. The lack of replacable heel on the Top Fuel greatly concerns me for the boot lifespan considering the insane cost of the boot ($845). I don't want thhem to be out of DIN after just one season. Is there any solution?

4. Neither alpine boots liners seem as high quality as those of my old Beasts... are appearances deceiving?

5. Any other suggestions on other alpine boots to try?

6. Any other suggestions on my AT boot fit/support issues?

Thanks again!

First of all, let me commend you on your research! You have given me plenty of info and seem to have a good idea of what you want. Well done!

Anyway, it seems you have two major challenges. Getting enough room over the instep and keeping the boot weight down. To answer both of these, IMO, you should try the Nordica Dobermann Pro 110. It will be far lighter than either the Beast or the Speed Machine, and softer flexing than the Hot Rod Top Fuel. Do not let the "semi-race" tag scare you. It is a very friendly boot, IF it is set up properly. Also, modifying the instep should not be too big of a problem, IMO.

Another very similar option is the Nordica Hot Rod Nitrous, which has a flex rating of 100 (but is not a low boot like the Nordica Dobermann Pro 100).

Back to your questions.

1. Already covered, but basically, the Speed Machine is wider, heavier and more heavily padded. A great boot if you want something more "cushy."
2. It could be softened, but why not just start with a softer boot? The only question that I cannot answer for you is- would this boot be to tight; as in too responsive when you land from jumps? As someone who only gets inverted when I mess up big, I am probably not the right guy to answer this.
3. Boot Lifters- not cheap, but they work great and protect the whole sole. Go with 5mm, IMO.
4. The Beast liners are VERY heavily padded. Other than that, the quality is about the same.
5. None beyond the Nordicas I mentioned above.
6. No.

BTW, I could not get your ski footage online.

Good luck,
Jeff Bergeron
Pres, Boot Fixation
post #81 of 104
question 90 from PurgatoryZ

Long time lurker here, but I actually joined this forum so I could get some of your expert advice on boots.

5 11, 175lbs, 26yo, very high arches, medium forefoot, medium/small heel. Shoe size is around 11/11.5. Skill level is a solid intermediate. I have good knowledge in most areas but I'm streaky when it comes to applying what I've learned.

Equipment: I just picked up some K2 Public Enemy twintips last year, 169s, that I got on a really good deal. Freestyle and park had previously been undiscovered country to me, and I've been trying these out a bit more lately. At my roots though, I'm just an alpine skier who spends 60% on piste, 40% off (mostly skiing colorado for the off piste, and the tiny IL "mountains" the rest of the time). Rossingol Scratch 120 bindings, and here's the best part: I can't even identify my salomon boots. I'm looking at them right now, and I'm pretty sure they are 5-6 years old, Salomon, and they have that speedfit lacing design that's got 2 buckles + strap & laces. I'm guessing they predate the existing speedlace design at Salomon. Size is 29.5 (so that's 12.5?). I have no pain issues regardless of how long I remain in the boots. Last year in Vail I actually almost came out of my boot on a steep run, though. So clearly they are too big, and clearly I need help.

More info:
I've never had official lessons, but tape and analyze my runs semi-often. I know nothing of race boots, what type of forward lean I'd want, and I'm fairly certain that I can't get the boots really custom modded (maybe some inserts/liner sizing but that's about the most I could do). I'm fairly sure that my boot is seriously hindering my performance, so with that I've got a few questions:

1) I've heard that I should take a look at the Salomon 1080's for park and pipe type activities, where I tend to spend an increasing amount of time. However, I'd like a boot that can at least "perform" in the other conditions. By perform I don't need perfect for each situation like many of the other users. How do these fair on other runs (too much flex?), and should I consider this boot?

2) Have I provided enough information for you to at least narrow down a selection of boots (given the critera above) for me, or do I need more?

Thanks a bunch in advance. I leave for Winter Park in 4 weeks and I'd like to be riding with some new boots so any advice you have would be awesome!
Sorry if this is too late for your trip, but here are some opinions/ info.

1. The Salomon 1080 is a good boot, but it does run quite wide at the heel. If you want better performance, I recommend you try a boot with a narrower heel pocket.

2. Sorry, but not really enough info. As simply a guess, I recommend trying the Nordica Dobermann Pro 110.
post #82 of 104
question 91 from mitchmerri

HI Jeff,

I am a 55 YO male short and stout 200# 5'6". My foot size is 7.5 and
4E-5E width. I ski 20-25 days/yr. split almost evenly between east and west. I am advanced skier and love the trees and edges. I don't look for bumps anymore but ski them if they are there.

I am currently in 5 YO Tecnica Rival X9 HVL that I have done some modification for a bony knob on my shin and superficial vein on the top of my feet that cause numbness and pain when pressured.
My shell needs minor work (missing screw and bent buckle) but is still useable but the liner is packed out on the right foot.

1) Should I look at new boots or just liners?
2) If new liners which one (zipfit or intuition) because of width and bone spur?
3) If a new boot what would you suggest?
4) Is Dale boot one to be considered?


Sounds like you have true high volume feet- wide forefoot, high instep, and probably a fairly wide heel. Unfortunately, there are few good choices for this type of foot.

As far as boots go, it may make sense to stay with your old boot. It is a very high volume shell, and works pretty well. The only downside is it has a lot of forward lean, which is typically not a good thing for you type of foot.

Other boots? The Nordica Beast 12 might work.

IMO, the Daleboot is not the best boot for you.

Jeff Bergeron
Pres, Boot Fixation
post #83 of 104
question 92 from Mom

115 lbs skiing in Dobermann team 70's brand new, one size smaller than previous boots - performance fit according to shell sizing. very very low volume feet.

I attended the camp last weekend (Sorry we arrived too late to catch you which might have taken care of this) and was told after observing my skiing that I should look into a boot diagnosis because my left knee seems to sort of high-speed wobble; the other leg I was told is "rock solid". I can't feel it, but Pete said he could see it. He suggested that it may mean that either i need canting/alignment work, or that the boots are sloppy in the ankle.

These are the narrowest boots i could find and i've tried on just about every boot out there. Also, it is the other foot that still feels a bit loose.

1. In your experience, do you have any guess as to what might cause a knee to quiver whilst skiing and
2. what i ought to do about it?

Thank you.
Typically, "wobble" type of problems come from incompatabilities between your footbed, your cant and your cuff adjustment. Basically, these features are not in harmony with how your leg needs to function. Any evaluation beyond that would most likely take a very thorough evaluation, IMO.

Good luck,
Jeff Bergeron
Pres, Boot Fixation
post #84 of 104
question 93 from Scooby Snax
Hi Jeff,

Thanks for your advice to others that I've read thus far, now on to my mutant feet.

39 years, Skiied 36, advanced / expert agressive w/ finnesse skier. CSIA Level 2 instructor. Former racer, still love speed, and big GS & SG on any terain, ice, hard pack, crud, (powder when out your way).

I ski it all, and by all, I will have four kids on skis this year, so I'm back to the Greens, and sneaking off to blacks and double blacks.

Current boot / Ski Soloman Xwave 9, 2000 year model, Nordica Hot Rod Nitrous, Rossi Bandit XX.

5'-8", 175lbs.
Ive developed a bit of a bunion on my right due to multiple breaks of my big toe.

Rather wide forefoot, medium instep, narrow heel. I pronate, and have used both Superfeet Kork, and a Surefoot footbed. I found Petersen's to pinch, and tire my foot, they were off the shelf, not custom.

1. I'm looking for a boot to fit as well as the Solomons, but with a bit more flex, the spoiler was vee'd out to the maximum my guy would take it to.
I still need lateral stiffness, as I ski mostly in the east, and love a steep icy run.

2. What is your opinion on superfeet kork, or Surefoot EVA orthotics. Is a semi flexible foot bed better?

Thanks in advance for you advice.


1. Maybe you should try an Atomic Race Tech CS 130 or the Salomon Falcon.

2. IMO, the Superfeet and Surefoot footbeds are both stiffer under the arch (in compression) than I prefer. (Note that while these footbeds can flex, they are usually very firm.) Also, I am not a fan of how either system molds to the foot. Let me repeat this- IN MY OPINION.

That said, I sometimes get clients who already own these products who I do not recommend new footbeds to. Usually, these are people with fairly average feet and no major alignment issues. (As in when they do not have footbeds.)

Jeff Bergeron
Pres, Boot Fixation
post #85 of 104
question 94 from Calgary
Hi Jeff. Long time lurker, first time poster. The information you provide is fantastic.

About me: 32 years-old, 5'9", 175 lbs, 35 days a year, fairly aggressive, mostly off-piste in bowls, steeps and glades.

I have a dispropotioned foot - very narrow heeks/ankles/lower leg with 6th toe syndrome in the forefoot. I'm told arch is relatively normal. My nartural bio-mechanics are slightly bowlegged with curved tibias and first foot strike is on outside of foot. I wear corrective orthodics in all footwear.

Fit problems while on the hill - heel lift and sliding forward required over tightening of middle 2 buckles, very cold toes and extra volume in boot upper.

Currently use Salomon XWave 9. My shop has added 2 layers of heel locks and 2 layers of similar foam to tongue. I have this replaced every 2-3 weeks. I have AmFit footbeds.

Tired of the fit problem I went into different high end ski shop and bought Lange WC 120. This solved the heel lift problem for one foot but not the other. Store recommends adding foam padding to liner like done on XWave9.

1. Any other suggestions for boots with my foot type, or is the WC120 the best match?
2. Any other suggestions at all for fit? I would like something more permanent then replacing heel wraps and padding every few weeks.
3. Can you comment on footbeds? It seems every bootfitter claims they footbed they sell is the better than AmFit, yet the true Bootfitters around here (don't sell, just fit and modify) sell AmFit.

Thanks, Dion.

PS. Next time I'm in Colorado I will come in for a fitting!
1. First of all, IMO, the Lange boot should be able to work. These boot have velcro on the liner, which allows you to slip extra padding in there.
Start by adding padding in this manner.
2. Go for firm padding, not soft stuff.
3. While I am not a fan of the Amfit system (not so far, anyway), the most important element with any footbed is the ski tech. A good tech can make a decent footbed for most feet with just about any decent system. IMO.
post #86 of 104
question 95

Hello Jeff,
I'm a 40 plus years Aussie, height -175 cm, weight - 73 kl.
I travel to Canada and US every 2 to 3 years and ski for 4 to 5 weeks at different resorts each time. I will be over in Feb 07, for 6 weeks this time, and this will be my 4th trip. I would describe myself as an intermediate skier, just branching into (brushing the edge of) advanced category.
I am looking into the option of purchasing boots in Oz, for price, range and availability reasons and then having them properly fitted along with custom footbeds, on arrival in Colorado.
My dominant foot is - length 265cm, forefoot width 105cm, heel width 68cm, calf circ 332cm and ankle circ 265. I have a relatively high arch.
My local ski shop seems to have a reasonable range of Rossi's, Salomon and Tecnica boots.
1/ Can you advise on some models to start with.
2/ If none of the 3 brands above, what others would suit.
3/ Should I go for an advanced/expert boot as it would seem from what I have read that comfort is not really an issue between the boot levels until you get into plugs.
Thanks in advance for the advise.

First of all, I recommend you look at higher level boots. IMO, they simply perform better than lower end models.

Given your foot description, you might like the Tecnica Vento series or the Salomon XWave series. Note that their stances are very different, (the Salomons are more upright and the Tecnicas more forward) so make that their stance feels relaxed AND athletic to you. Another option from your choices could be the Tecnica Diablo series.

Good luck,
Jeff Bergeron
Pres, Boot Fixation
post #87 of 104
question 96

I have a long, narrow foot and a narrow heel. Street shoe size is a 12.5. I'm currently in a Technica Diablo Pro size US 10. The fit is generally good, but I haven't been able to get enough length in the toes after grinding and punching.

Right now I'm looking at a Hot-Rod/Dobie in a US 11 (UK 10). They're nice and snug in the forefoot & ankle. I'm worried about how much room they have in the toes, though. On my right I have a tight 2-finger fit. On the left I have a loose 2-finger fit.

1. Is this too much room in the toes, even though they're tight elsewhere?

The heel pocket on the US 11 Hot-Rods also seems super roomy. I'm worried about them getting sloppy when the liners pack out.

2. Can I deal with this by having a boot fitter add material?

I've also tried a Nordica Speedmachine in a US 10 (long enough in toes but pretty wide ... worried about slop) and a Hot-Rod in a US 10 (1.5 finger fit but uncomfortably tight in ankle and forefoot.)
Foot Brother,

I have to start by saying that I am surprised that you have not found enough toe room in your size 28 Diablos.

1. In general, a one finger fit or less is best for semi-race and full race boots. Possible exceptions to this is when someone has high toenails or if they do a lot of hiking and/or jumping.
2. Given your lack of success with the size 28 Tecnicas, this is probably what you will need to do. Do not be surprised if you find yourself wanting a thicker liner in the near future, however.

Also, IMO the Nordica runs slightly shorter than your Tecnicas. Therefore, the 29 (uk 10) may work just fine.

Good luck,
Jeff Bergeron
Pres, Boot Fixation
post #88 of 104
question 97
Thanks in advance for your time and knowledge. I am age 52, male, 5'9'', 170 lbs, intermediate skiier (probably level 6+), in good shape and athletic. Shoe size 9.5, medium width, no special needs. I ski primarly on piste at moderate speeds. I currently own Nordica GP-09 boots and want to modernize/upgrade.

1. What brands/models would you suggest for me?
2. Suggestions regarding customized foot beds?

street shoes are "D" width and fit fine
instep is average height
heels and ankles may be narrower than average
current Nordicas are tight on ankle bones
I have no idea about forward lean preferences. I tend to ski in the "back seat" as slopes get steeper.

Thaks again for your insight.
1. As a quick guess, you might like the Tecnica Diablo Flame.
2. If your alignment issues are not major, you may just want to start with a non-custom product such as the Superfeet.

Good luck,
Jeff Bergeron
Pres, Boot Fixation
post #89 of 104
question 99 by mickey
Hi Jeff,

Thanks a lot for answering all these questions! Reading through your answers has been really informative already, but I'd like to give you my situation and see what you think might be best for me as well.

I'm 32 yrs old, 6'4" tall and 215 lbs. My left foot is a US size 11.5 and my right foot is a size 11. I generally take normal-width shoes and have a low arch and instep. The only other odd things about my feet are (a) the first three toes on each foot come out to the same distance, so the front of my foot is very square rather than pointed; (b) I have a large lump on the outside edge of both feet about two inches ahead of my ankle; and (c) the outside point of both ankles is much more pronounced than the inside. Both of the last two "features" have caused problem in boots and shoes before. I'm also fairly significantly bow-legged; when standing straight with my feet together and knees locked I can easily fit my fist between my knees (with the back of my hand forward, not to the side).

As far as my skiing ability, I started skiing at 15 yrs old but have been a snowboarder for the past 12 years and have only been on skis twice in that time. I've decided that I'd like to get back into sking, and am trying to figure out what equipment to buy. As a result, I don't have a great sense of what kind of skiing I want to do, nor of how good I'll be, but I'm pretty athletic and aggressive and I'm sure I'll be pushing myself as hard as I can, and I live in PA and ski mostly in the East so stability on ice is probably important. The best I can say at present about my skiing style is that I think I will prefer more technical skiing -- bumps, steeps, trees, backcountry, possibly some freestyle -- to making fast carving super-G turns on groomers. But I've probably already betrayed my inexperience by saying that.

I would like, if possible, to buy one pair of good boots that will carry me from this point as far as I care to go along the lines I've suggested above. I prefer a snug to very snug fit on all my shoes -- snowboard boots, hiking boots, etc. -- and I'm sure I will feel the same way about my ski boots. Just based on my last ski rental experience last weekend, I think I may prefer more forward lean rather than less, and a reasonably flexible boot, but I'm sure I could easily be convinced otherwise.

So my questions are fairly straightforward:

1) Which boots would you recommend for me?
2) Do you think my bow-leggedness will require special boot fitting or adjustments?
3) Is there a good boot that would also have features making it more suitable than others to backcountry skiing or ski mountaineering? (eg. sole material/tread?)
4) How much adjustment do you think would need to be made for the different sizes of my feet, and what kind of adjustments would you recommend?
5) Are there any other specific fitting adjustments you would recommend given the particular characteristics of my feet?

Thanks again for all your advice and for the time you spend answering all of our questions.



1. Some boots you may want to try could be the Atomic Race Tech CS 130, the Tecnica Diablo Magnesium or Magma, the Fischer RC4 Race. All of these should work with your tib/fib curvature, IMO.
2. Yes.
3.The Atomics do not have toe and heel plates, although these could added by a decent race shop.
4. Your size difference should not be a significant problem, IMO.
5. IMO, go for the shell that is tightest, as long as it is comfortable.

Good luck,
Jeff Bergeron
Pres, Boot Fixation
post #90 of 104
question 101 by gdhyde
Hi Jeff,

I'm a 34 yo, male ex-racer. Still like to ski fast and furious and love having boots with a nice, stiff flex... a problem considering the width and volume of my feet. I'm looking for recommedations on where to start when looking at new boot models.

Here are my stats:

Height: 5'10"
Weight: 205 lbs
Skier Type: 9
Preferred Terrain: steeps, off-piste, hard-pack speed
Foot Size: 9 1/2 E, high-volume instep, med-wide fore foot, normal heel

I currently ski Atomic Beta Race 10.50Ti (size 26.5) that used to be comfortable -- or at least tolerable -- to race in. I'm looking for something along those lines as far as stiffness goes, but with a little more space in the forefoot and warmer liners/footbed -- I have the older model with the titanium plate with pretty much no footbed and they are almost unbearable when skiing powder b/c of the cold.

I've been out of the market for new boots for a while, and haven't spent too much time research, but I have tried on a few from the Nordica line:

Nordica Dobermann Pro 130 (hot spot on the top of my fore foot on one foot)
Nordica Hot Rod (fit better than the Dobermann, but not a fan of the clear plastic b/c of the variance in flex depending on the temp)
Nordica Speed Machine 14 (have heard bad things about the liners packing out, but they were pretty comfortable; again don't like the use of clear plastic)


1. What other options might work, assuming I'll have a boot fitter to grind, stretch, and tweak the fit? I just want some starting point so I know where to begin.

2.Are there any really good fitters (e.g. on the level of Elite Feet in Tahoe) that work out of Park City, UT? I'll be there next weekend and was thinking of taking care of this there.



First of all, we are in agreement about see-through boot plastic. It just does not seem to work as well. (Although it makes boot fitting very easy!)

Also, your current boot is one of the coldest ski boots ever made, IMO. (Fortunately, the newer Atomics are much better this way.)

Anway, here are some answers.

1. Given your description, I think you might like the Nordica Speedmachine 14 the best. It will certainly be the warmest and most comfortable of the boots you list.

2. None that I know of, but they could be there. That said, I have a few clients who live in Park City and come all the way out to Colorado so that I can do their boots. (Am I tooting my own horn too much?)

Good luck,
Jeff Bergeron
Pres, Boot Fixation
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