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The Boot Fitter Jeff Bergeron 07 Answers

post #1 of 104
Thread Starter 
This is Jeff Bergeron's boot answer thread.

To separate the questions from the answers, we've created this moderated thread for Jeff's answers. If you have a question, please use this other thread.

Jeff will copy questions into this thread and answer them here.

I suggest checking here for answers first, before posting in the questions thread, but feel free to post any questions you have about boots and their fit.

For those of you who do not know Jeff, he is a well-known Summit County boot balancing specialist (his shop is colocated with the Norway Haus in downtown Breckenridge). His new web site is here: bootfixation.com.

...and, for whatever it's worth, Jeff has done my fitting and balancing for me and will probably be doing it again this season.
post #2 of 104
Originally Posted by sywsyw
Hi Jeff,

Welcome back!
It's great that you started the thread now because i need some info on Lange boots.

Background: male skier, 155lbs, 5 foot 9, i have a medium-narrow foot (D width forefoot) with a medium-narrow instep. I fit pretty well in narrow boots.

Based on your recommendation i ordered the 2007 Atomic Race Tech Ti 100. I noticed that you recommended the 2007 Atomics towards the end of last winter. They probably changed something and i want to find out what's different.
I want to get a boot for every day skiing, too. I am looking at the Nordica Hot Rod Top Fuel. The Atomic is my race boot.

1. Why did you recommend the 2007 Atomic models? Did Atomic change the last of the Race Tech Ti?
2. What can you tell me about the last of the Hot Rod?
3. Does the Hot Rod have a medium instep or a high instep? My instep is medium-lower and that is why i ordered the Atomic.
4. Could you compare the instep height of both the Hot Rod and Race Tech? Is the former significantly higher?
5. Does the Hot Rod run large or not?

Thanks a lot!

Long time, no talk. Here are my answers.

1. BNG (bold new graphics) and a different way of rating the flex indexes are the only changes to the 2007 Race Tech TI. There are no changes to the last. Just so you know, the CS is also unchanged. (For flex indexes, 150= Medium, 130= Soft, 100= X Soft)

2. The Nordica Hot Rod last is a roomier version of the Nordica Dobermann WORLD CUP. Essentially, it is the same boot as the Nordica Dobermann PRO. This boot (the Hot Rod) is more upright than most race-based boots, and features a medium fit throughout, with a bit of extra room over the instep (top of the foot). In my opinion, it is a good fit (and much better than many other boots), but I would like it to be more snug in the heel pocket.

3. As mentioned above, the Hot Rod's instep is a bit higher than average.

4. The instep on the Race Tech is definitely lower than the Hot Rod's instep.

5. By size? If so, yes, it runs slightly large for its size. Keep in mind these Nordicas run in UK sizes, which is (I believe) to keep things confusing. (For example, a 26 mondopoint boot is essentially the same size as a UK 7, a US 8, and a US Women's 9. Point being, you have to be very careful if you order these boots.)

Jeff Bergeron
Boot Fixation
post #3 of 104
Originally Posted by Eric S
Hi Jeff,

Welcome back!

I'm male, 54, 5-10, 190, level 7+. I ski very aggressively on piste and I also like bumps and New Mexico crud. I have narrow caves, ankles and heels otherwise average foot width. I like my boots snug (as most good skiers do). I currently have Nordica K9.2 boots from 2002 which seem to suit me but I think it may be time to modernize.

1. Based on my profile and the boots I have now, what Tecnica, Nordica or Atomic boot would you recommend?

Thanks, Eric

First of all, IMO you should be able to find a much better boot than your current boots. (I found the Nordica K9.2 to be a very high volume boot, and too stiff for most skiers.) The question that I have is how snug do you really want to go?

If you just want a boot that is just more snug and skis better than your current boots (which is most likely), you may want to try the Tecnica Diablo Magnesium and the Atomic M100. Be aware that the Tecnica Diablos tend to pack out more than most boots. You may also like the Nordica Speedmachine 12, which is not low volume, but will still be much more snug than your old boot.

If you want a boot that is truly snug, you may want to try the Atomic Race Tech CS 130. (Note- going off of your old boots, odds are you will NOT want this boot. Still, they are worth trying if you have the option.) This is based on their full race boot, but has a slightly more relaxed fit and slightly more padded liner. Basically, you get near race responsiveness while still getting reasonable warmth and comfort. Keep in mind that these boots typically require alignment and fitting work from a skilled boot tech.

Some other good options from the semi-race category are the Lange Freeride 120 or World Cup 120 HP fit (essentially the same as the Rossignol Radical Pro and Bandit B-Squad), and the Salomon Falcon boot.

Hope this helps you find the right boot.
post #4 of 104
Originally Posted by rx-7
Hi Jeff,

Background: male skier with an average D width foot;I have a medium instep. 160lbs; advanced. I am looking for a plug or a semi-plug boot. I am looking at the Lange plug (WC 150) and semi-plug (WC 120).


1. What are the differences in terms of fit between the plug and semi-plug boots? I am interested in three things: ankle/heel hold, instep height and forefoot width.
2. Does the semi-plug boot have a higher instep than the full plug? You stated in an older thread that the Lange plug has a high instep and i am worried about its height.
3. What can you tell me about the stance of these boots? Is it forward or more upright?

Thank you.


1. Good question, because I have so far only had my feet in the full WC fit! At the forefoot, they measure the WC at 96mm, and the HP at 98mm, so that is a starting point. For the heel, I can only guess (for now), but I believe they are either identical or very similar. I am guessing this because the plastic in this section of these Lange boots is very thin. (Unlike the full race Nordica, where ALL of the plastic is thick.) Because the plastic here is thin, and reshaping a boot takes a huge amount of work, my guess is that boot boots feature very similar fits in the heel/ ankle/ instep areas.

2. I expect the instep is slightly higher in the HP fit.

3. These boots should be identical in forward lean, which, by the way, is more upright than the standard production Lange boot.

Overall, these boots have a snug fit with a fairly high instep. They also ski very well. In case you are not aware of it, the narrower World Cup fit comes in a 150, 130 and 120 flexes, which are essentially the same as the old ratings of c/c, b/b, and a/b.

One last thing. In my experience, the Lange boots have more reliability issues (cracking shells and plastic fatigue) than the other plug boots. Again, just my opinion. Oh, and Rossignol sells nearly the same boots, and they typically cost less money...

Hope this helps,
Jeff Bergeron
Pres, Boot Fixation
post #5 of 104
Originally Posted by ggski
I am 6'1", 195 lbs and an aggressive skier (former racer) who spends most of his time off piste in soft (hopefully) snow. My feet are quite narrow in the heel and wide in the forefoot. I came in to visit you late 2005 and you recommended the Diablo Magnesium. Great call!!
After the normal grinding and stretching to accomodate 6th toes and funky ankle bones etc...these boots have been awesome. I can buckle them tight in the morning and ski hard all day without unbuckling and the ski control is oustanding. My question is this:
1. The boot cuff is too low for the length of my legs. I feel as though in cut up and cruddy snow (which I ski a lot and really enjoy) the low cuff gives me a less direct transmission from legs to skis.
Is there a way to increase cuff height without compromising performance? I have already raised the rear support piece as high as it will go.
Keep up the great work...I would highly recommend Jeff to anyone out there who can get to Co.

Glad to hear they are working out for you. The best way to increase the boot height is by adding a Nordica shin plate, which is an accessory that comes with some of the Nordica Dobermanns. If you need a set, call me at the shop and I can send you some. Or you can just stop by for them....

Just so you know, increasing the boot height typically lessens one's feel for the snow (which is why many downhillers lower their boot cuffs). Still, at your height this should not be an issue.

Jeff Bergeron
Boot Fixation
post #6 of 104
=duke walker hi jeff. i am 5'10'', 180#, advanced but not expert, prefer utah powder. i wear a 11b street shoe and measure 27+ mondo on the l and 28- on the r with a A width on the foot guage. forefoot 24cm. heel -instep 33cm., calf at boot-top 33cm. severe pronator using sole or superfeet green insoles.
1) i have lange 120 comp mf which seem a bit stiff. any suggestions?. the nordica hot-rod width seems ok. thank you

1. If you basically like your Langes, but want more flex, you could have them softened. If you want a more snug fit, you might consider trying the Nordica Hot Rod Nitrous, the Lange World Cup (2007 version) in a WC (not HP) fit, or the Atomic Race Tech CS 100. (Be careful with instep room on the Atomic, btw.)

BTW, how on earth did you come up with a 24cm forefoot. I have 29A feet, and they measure 10.5cm at the forefoot, 29.0cm at the instep, and 34cm at boot top. (Ok- the last two seemed reasonable.) Just curious. (Edit- I am guessing you measured around the mets, not just across.)

Anyway, good luck with your boots.

Jeff Bergeron
Boot Fixation
post #7 of 104
Question 7


Background: male skier, average foot, medium instep, 165lbs. I am looking for a high performance boot with a more upright stance. My list includes just two boots: Lange WC 120 and Nordica Hot Rod. I had the Tecnica Diablo Race Pro with a huge amount of forward lean. Didn't like the forward lean at all.
There is something i don't understand about sizing. Nordica is different than Lange.For example, the Hot Rod in US 7 has a 295mm sole length ( i think). On the other hand, the Lange in US 6 has a 292 sole length. So i would have to get them in different sizes and, as a result, the Lange may be narrower. The Hot Rod in US 7 is my size. The Lange in US 6 is my size. I tried the Lange in US 7 (300mm sole length) and it is too big.


1. Could you compare the WC 120 and Hot Rod in terms of fit?

2. Regarding sizing, do you agree with me that with Lange the size should be one smaller? If i get the Lange in US 6 compared to the Nordica in US 7, do you think the Lange will be narrower?

3. Could you compare the Hot Rod to the WC 120 in terms of instep height? Again, if i get the Hot Rod in US 7 (my size) and the Lange in US 6 (my size, again), do you think that the Lange will have a lower instep than the Nordica?

Thanks a lot for helping us out!

Been a while, hope you had a good summer.

As far as the boots go, I think you are on the right track to get a more upright, performance boot. Odds are good you will be much happier with these than you were with the Diablo race boots, IMO.

1. IMO, the Lange has a more "anatomic" last (more accomodating to prominent bone structures such as the balls of the feet, ankle bones, etc..) while the Nordicas feature a more "straight" last (less accomodation at key bone structure points). Which is better depends entirely on your feet.

2. In the World Cup 120 Lange, you have the option of going with the WC fit or the HP fit. They measure 96mm and 98mm respectively (in size 26 I believe). Anyway, for a given size, you may find the more anatomical shape of the Lange may feel wider than the Nordica. If you are still concerned about the width, try the Lange in the HP fit.

3. Instep height should be similar between these boots.

Good luck,
Jeff Bergeron
Boot Fixation
post #8 of 104
question 8

Hi Jeff - Interested in Salomon Falcon 10's as a hardpack/training boot. Don't race but want to improve my carving.

I am 165 lbs, 6 ft., advanced (8-9) skier, have a wide forefoot, low arch, and narrow heel/ankle. Have skied Langes (too narrow in front), Technicas (too wide in heel), Salomons (mostly right). Currently on 04-05 315 mm Salomon X-Wave 10's 2 sizes below street shoe. Great boot, but better at freeride than groomers.

1) In your opinion is the Falcon a significantly better performer on hardpack than the X-Wave?

2) Will it flex enough at my weight to drive fairly stiff carvers (Stockli and Fischer)?

3) Can you recommend any other brands/models that might work?

Thanks for your help.

1. YES!!! For the right skier, the X-Wave is a good recreational boot, but it is a bit big and loose. (esp. in the heel/ ankle area)

2. IMO, the flex should work very well for you. If you find it stiff, you could have it softened a bit.

3. I would be curious to see how you do with the Atomic Race Tech CS 100 (or 130). You can also review my above posts.

Good Luck,

Jeff Bergeron
Boot Fixation
post #9 of 104
question 10

Hey Jeff.

Background/Profile: 30 years old, 5'11", 160-165 lbs, 3rd year "advanced" skier. I ski mostly black runs (hardpack and powder) and I'm hoping to become an expert eventually. As for my foot, I'm a 10.5 street size and a "C" width. Aside from that, I'm not really sure what areas of my foot differ from the average person.

What I'm looking for: Something stiff enough that I won't outgrow it in 2 years, but not too stiff that it impedes my progress. I've tried on several boots and I really like the way the Tecnica Diablo series seems to fit my foot.


1. If I were to go with something in the Diablo series, do you think the Flame (flex 80) or Magnesium (flex 100) would be better suited for my needs? The new Magma seems like it might be a bit stiff for my weight.

1. IMO, you will probably do better with the Magnesium. Just be aware that these boots seem to pack out a bit more than most boots.

Good Luck,
Jeff Bergeron
Boot Fixation
post #10 of 104
question 11
=mwilson Hi Jeff,

Thank you for sharing your knowledge and the opportunity to learn from your expertise.

Background: male skier, 190 lbs, 6' 1", level 8-9 skier, 45 YO, medium foot with narrower heel and moderate arch. Preferred terrain is anything but hard-core moguls and ice. Groomers are okay when there's nothing better to be had in the trees or off the summit. Ski 30 - 40 days per year in central Oregon.

Currently skiing in ca. 2000 Salomon XWave 10s that have packed out too much and haven't been able to fill the space (I should have purchased one shell size smaller. Current main ski is the '05 Salomon Xtra Hot with a couple others in reserve.

What I'm looking for: a stiff enough boot to lay down good carves on hardpack days but soft enough to work well in powder, crud, etc. So far I've tried the Salomon Gun (too short in the big toe with the rest of the foot volume okay), '07 Salomon XWave 10 (1 mondo point smaller than my old boots - seems to fit snugly all around), and the '07 Tecnica Magnesium (possibly a little wide in the forefoot).


1. The Magnesium feels good in length and heel hold, but seems like it might pack out to be too wide in the forefoot. No side-to-side movement after 15 - 20 minutes in it though. Is side-to-side pack out a big risk?
2. The Tecnica seems to have a more progressive flex (soft then hard) than the Salomon. Will a more progressive flex be better in soft snow?
3. The '07 XWave 10 felt softer flexing than my ca. '00s in the store (side by side). Have they softened them up?
4. What should I expect to give up if I were to go to a softer boot? Presumably responsiveness and edgehold at speed? It seems like there would be a balance that might be improved for soft snow skiing?
5. Any recommendations on other boots to try?

Thanks very much for your help!

Mike Wilson
1. The risk of side to side pack out with the Tecnica Diablos is significant. Still, at least their heel pockets are narrower than the Salomon Xwaves.

2. Unless a person is either out of balance or has an awkward technique, a smooth, progressive flex is better in all situations.

3. The newer Xwaves do flex better than the old ones. Also, a smaller boot will generally flex better than a bigger one.

4. If you technique is good, you will give up very little by having a soft flexing boot. Typically, the only people who struggle with soft boots are those who lean on the front of the boot through the WHOLE TURN. (Leaning against the front of the boot at the middle to end of the turn causes a lot of balance issues. You could look up Bob Barnes if you have questions about this.)

5. Where to begin? You could try some of the semi- race boots, if you want a boot that will hold your feet more snugly. (Esp. past the break-in period.) A few possibilities are the Atomic Race Tech CS 130, Nordica Dobermann Pro 130 or Hot Rod Top Fuel, the Lange World Cup 120 or 130 HP fit. These are only a start, but all will outski the boots you listed above. (Note- I only suggest you consider trying them. I do NOT guarantee that semi-race boots are right for your needs.)

Good luck,
Jeff Bergeron
Pres, Boot Fixation
post #11 of 104
question 12

I’m 47 6’2” and 225 lbs. I’ve skied 20 years, level 7 or 8 currently. I live in Minnesota so my predominate conditions are hard on-piste conditions. I get to the Rockies 2 or 3 times a year. At home or out west I enjoy steep groomers or powder, I can do without the bumps. Quiver includes 05/06 Fischer RX8’s for the hard pack at home and Legend 8000’s for western skiing.

I have a size 14 C foot with significant arthritic calcification of the big toe joint on the right foot which limits mobility of that joint. Makes getting in some boots difficult. Once I’m in the boot it’s fine.

I currently ski an 05/06 Diablo Magnesium in a 30.5. The shell fit was good, about 1.5 fingers behind heel. The boot fit great early on. But as it packs out I’m beginning to experience some heel lift and a fit that feels a little loose. The forward lean of this boot irritates me late in the day at times.

Forefoot 109mm, heel 72mm, average calfs, no significant protrusion of heel from back of calf.


1. I’m looking at the 05/06 Speedmachine 12. Reactions to this boot given my profile. Others ?

1. Finding large boots with good fits can be very challenging. The Nordica Speedmaching 12 will have a more upright stance, so it sounds like you will like this part. As far as the fit goes, it has a somewhat higher volume shell, so it will probably be no more snug than the Tecnica Diablo.

The only other choices that you have for snug fitting, size 30 boots are the Lange/ Rossi HP fit World Cup 120 boots for this year (they list them in the catalog, anyway) and the Fischer RC4 World Cup or Race in a 30. These are the only boots I can think of that might offer a better fit.
post #12 of 104
question 13

Wow, what a great service...Thanks!!

Background: 41yr old, 195lbs, PSIA LII, Nastar Platinum - moving up to Masters this year. Skiing on Volkls: 6*, P60SL, P60GC, Vertigo. Currently in Salomon Equip 9.0 (Prolink? circa 1997?), well used, padded and packed 2x, lower shell cut for more forward flex for free skiing only. Also in the Salomon Race 9.0 - same series - bought new last year for racing (way too stiff for anything other than groomers!). This series of boots is the most comfortable I've ever owned...I no longer need to buckle & unbuckle constantly or fiddle with fit for 2+ years. Right ACL replacement, and both pairs checked for stance issues, both have custom footbeds for pronation. Extra narrow heel and bony ankle, super wide and low calf, and average mid foot, and average-to-wide forefoot with bunion.

1. Looking for replacements for the Equipe free ski boots to fit my weird foot shape - Atomics are too wide and Lange/Rossi are too narrow in the forefoot. Any suggestions for current or new models?

Thanks bunches, Kris


1. Sounds like you have a common problem- average women's feet! Seems like there should be many boots that work with these feet, but unfortunately, few boots actually do work well here. The problem- no production boots are made narrow enough in the heel.

If I were you, I would look at some of the semi-race boots. You did not list how tall you are, but some you might try are the Atomic Race Tech CS 130, the Dobermann Pro 130 (not truly narrow in the heel, but can be padded effectively), and the Lange World Cup 120 or 120W (remember there are nearly identical Rossi models).

For production boots, the Tecnica Diablo Magma might be good, although they do pack out quite a bit.

That is probably where I would begin to look for boots for you, if you were in my shop. Remember, the semi-race boots often require extra fitting and alignment work.

Good luck,
Jeff Bergeron
Boot Fixation
post #13 of 104
question 14
I am 30, 6-1", 160 lbs., aggressive skier (8-9) who skies groomers at night skiing during the week and backcountry powder on the weekends. I have K2 Apache Crossifer skis and will be picking up some Line Prophet 100 at the end of this season for next year. I ski 30-40 days a year in Washington state. I have been fitted (Sturnevant's in Bellevue, WA) with a 07 Dalbello Krypton Pro (size 28.0) and loved them. I have a narrow foot. The price is too high for me. I have found a 06 Dalbello Krypton Pro (size 28.0) online for much less. I do not plan on purchasing the new ID liner for the 07 boots.

1. Is there a major difference in the fit between the 06 and 07?
2. Is it a bad idea to purchase the boot online without fitting that exact model year?

Thank you very much for your help.
1. No. Dalbello did do some liner work, and while some improvements may have been made, they seemed very similar to me.
2. As long as you liked the fit in the store, the risk seems fairly low to me. IMO, there is little to worry about.

Good luck,
Jeff Bergeron
Boot Fixation
post #14 of 104
question 15
=Falcon o
Hi Jeff,

I am 6', 225 lbs, 55yo and currently have Technica Icon ALU boots with hotform liners and custom footbeds. My current skis are 175 Volkl Allstars & 177 AC4's. I am a level 8 (somtimes 9), aggressive skier, 30+ years on the hill(s) and enjoy fast/steep cruisers, soft bumps, trees and powder when I can find it. The majority of my skiing is in the east (Killington) with at least one Western or Europe each season. I have narrow heels, wide forefoot and large caves. The ALU's have been excellent as to fit, height, foward / lateral stiffness and ability to transfer energy to the ski. After 4 seasons ( 180 days) they are getting tried = packed and loose in the heel. I have considered new liners but believe its time to go new.

Some additional information which should be helpful in answering my questions:

My foot: length: 280 mm
forefoot: 105 mm
heel: 72 mm
calf: 430 mm


1. Based upon my stats, could you recommend 2-3 alternate brand boots with comparable performance / fit and a brief comparison of each ?

2. Could you provide which current Technica would be the most comparable and if there would be any differences in fit / performance compared to my ALU's ?

3. Could you provide feedback as to the shell fit (suitablity for my foot), for the Technica Race Pro 100, Technica Diablo Magma, Technica Diablo Magnesium, Dalbello Krypton Pro/Pro ID and Dalbello Proton 12/10 ?

4. How would these boots compare in performance to my current ALU's ?

Like of those before me, your help is appreciated !!!!!


First of all, for the boots you list, the Dalbello Protons are probably the best bet. The new Tecnicas use a very different stance from what you had with your old boots, so unless you want more forward lean, be careful with those. The Dalbello Krypton is a good boot, but is not narrow in the heel and will almost certainly pinch your calves. (As will the Diablo Magmas and Magnesiums.)

Some other prduction boots you could consider are the Atomic M100 or M110, the Atomic B100, and the Nordica Speedmachine 12. Do not be surprised if these require some calf work.

If you want to consider a semi race boot, consider the usual suspects of the Nordica Dobermann Pro 130 or Hot Rod Top Fuel, the Lange World Cup 120 HP fit (you may be too heavy for these), or the Atomic Race Tech CS 130.

Good luck,
Jeff Bergeron
Boot Fixation
post #15 of 104
question 16
Hello Jeff,

Stopped by your shop last weekend but you weren't there. Found this forum the next day, what luck!

Background: 33yo male, level 8+ skier. Lots of bumps and steeps. 75% off piste. 5'8, 175lbs. Wide foot: 11.43cm. Generally size 10.5 wide shoe, 27.5 boot, currently on Tecnica TI-8 boots which are very, very old.

I have never been comfortable in ski boots. A local shop found that my foot collapses at the medial arch and spreads wide out below the little toe (not sure what that's called). So with all my weight on the feet, the widest point is 11.43cm. And what might be the biggest problem is low and *very* large calves (43cm around). Everyboot I've had is so tight around the calf that I lose circulation in my feet, which causes numbness and immense pain. If I loosen it, I lose the fine control of my skis which I really need for the terrain I ski.

1. The Nordica SpeedMachine 14 has twice been recommended to me for a wide forefoot,roomier toe box and wider cuff, but also because the shell can be cut out
more to accomodate spread. Your thoughts on the Nordica for wide feet and huge calves? Are there other boot options where my calves won't get pinched between the cuff and the tongue of the boot?

2. Also recommended was lowering the cuff on whatever boot I purchase to ease pressure on the calf but how is this achieved. And, what effect does this have on performance and control of the ski? I like my boots very snug so I can really feel and control my skis.

3. Finally, a heel shim to raise the calf out of the boot a little bit was suggested. Wouldn't this adversely affect my forward lean and center of gravity?

Thanks for your assistance.


Sorry I missed you at the shop; I could certainly be of more help there! Anyway, here are some of my thoughts on your questions.

1. The Nordica Speedmachine 14/12 is an excellent boot, but is not terribly wide (it is wider than average, though). While I would want to see your foot in it before making a full judgement, there may be better choices. Also, it is also quite tall and will probably bite your calves. (This could be modified, however...)

2. Lowering the cuff will probably be necessary, and should cause no loss in performance if it is done correctly.

3. A heel lift is a way of cheating the fit- essentially the leg gets lifted so there is less pinch. Since this affects balance, this should only be done when it is needed for either balance or range of motion.

Perhaps you should give me a call....

Jeff Bergeron
Boot Fixation
post #16 of 104
question 17
Hi Jeff,

Relevant Info:
  • Female 5'3" 125 lbs 39 years old
  • Have been skiing only since Jan., 2001
  • Ski about 15 days a year (I live in Texas)
  • Level 7 skier
  • Usually ski blue/double blue/black groomers but would like to progress to powder/ungroomed runs and improve my linked short turns
  • I ski with Volkl Attiva AC2 149cm skis
  • Former competitive inline skater when I was sidelined 2 years ago due to chronic exertional compartment syndrome in all four quadrants of both lower legs. Tried physical therapy, orthotics, and custom orthotics and was never able to overcome it without fasciotomy surgery. I didn't want the lengthy recovery time so I opted to skip surgery and drop inline skating. Luckily, the compartment syndrome does not usually flare up when skiing.
  • I over pronate quite a bit.
  • I have limited dorsiflexion (heels lift when doing squats)
  • I have very high arches that "fall".
  • I am a woman's size 8 with very wide feet for a woman (D) and a narrow heel.
  • I've also been diagnosed with bunions on both feet, but they have never caused me any pain.
  • My calves are very muscular, especially for a woman and even compared to some men. 14.5" around during rest.
  • Salomon footwear has always been my best bet (inline skates, ski boots, and trail runners that I use for indoor gym workouts).
Current ski boot fit and problems:
  • 2004/05 Salomon Performa 8 Women's model Size 25.5
  • My custom orthotics (prescribed by a orthopedic surgeon) seem to make this boot too small and cause pain on the top of my foot, but I do use an off the shelf pair of Superfeet (blue type).
  • My toes go numb occasionally and my feet do tend to get cold even when the temperature outside is not extreme.
  • I do experience heel lift.
  • Boots when fastened are typically on the very last buckle notch (loosest)
With my many foot issues, I feel like I will not be able to progress further with my skiing abilities without an excellent boot fit.

1. Do you think my current boot can be adjusted for a better fit or am I likely in the wrong boot?
2. My Volkl AC2's are new and have not had the bindings mounted yet. Is there anything you suggest I do differently when they are mounted other than a standard setting?
3. I will be in Summit County the week of Thanksgiving, and I'd love to get an opportunity to speak directly with the master. Any chance?

Thanks in advance!

1. IMO, your boot is probably not up to the job. Essentially, it is a low performance boot, and it sounds like it does not fit you well. Sorry for the bad news.
2. If you are aligned properly, odds are the standard mount will be fine.
3. Certainly, just call the shop for an appointment. (Your challenge already has me intrigued....) You can get my contact info from my website, which is www.bootfixation.com

Jeff Bergeron
Boot Fixation
post #17 of 104
question 19 (skipped 18 because it was not formatted properly)

50 year old male
5' 11"
Mostly groomed terrian
Beer league racer, 20+ handicap
Current boot - Atomic Race 9
Wide 2E+ foot, relatively narrow heel, high instep

1) I'm looking for a boot that will be suitable for racing and everyday use on mostly groomed terrain. Please suggest some models to look at.

Unfortunately, this is a tough call, because the boots that are wide tend to also be soft. If you can with the major fitting required, you might like going with a semi-race boot like the Nordica Dobermann 130, the Atomic Race Tech CS 130/150, the Atomic Race Tech TI 150 (a full race boot, btw), or the Lange World Cup 150/130. Once again, let me emphasize that it will take major boot fitting! Still, if the fitting was done properly, they should work well. (Let me emphasize that SHOULD!)

If you just want a higher end recreational boot (which will require less fitting), you could try an Atomic B100, the Tecnica Diablo Magma or the Nordica Speedmachine 14. (Do not be surprised if the Nordica Speedmachine requires MAJOR fitting as well.)

Note- If you like your current Atomic Race 9's, consider starting with the Atomic Race Tech CS or TI 150/130.

Lastly, make sure you have a good boot fitter before you even think of starting this one!

Good luck,
Jeff Bergeron
Boot Fixation
post #18 of 104
question 20
Hi Jeff,

I'm a 6'0, 165lb, expert skier. I like to ski the whole mountain. I generally ski fast & like big arcs when the terrain allows it. I'm not a racer. Both feet are over-canted (my left is around a degree, my right is a degree and a half). My current boot is a Lange LF-130 (I've always skied Langes) and I really love the lateral responsiveness and the stiff flex. However, it turns out the forward lean is too agressive for me--it holds my ankle closed and limits my leg extension which tends to put me in the back seat. I was fortunate enough to get to ski with Jill Evans (a LIII examiner at JHMR) who pointed out this problem to me. I've already ground the rear spoiler off, but it didn't get me upright enough.

1. Is there anything else I can do to the boot to solve this problem? I've noticed that there is an insert that sits underneath the liner which appears to create some ramp angle--can this be modified (or replaced) to allow me to stand more upright?

2. Can you recommend a boot with similar performance characteristics to the LF-130 that has either less forward lean or has adjustable forward lean?

3. I've never noticed the stiffness being a problem in the bumps (i.e. I've never gotten shin bang). However, I'm now guessing that's because the boot is holding my ankle closed so I can only flex at the knees. Should I consider a slightly softer flex for all mountain skiing if I'm able to find a boot that gives me a more upright stance?

4. Where can you get the canted heel/toe lugs for the Langes? I'm currently using ski-cants, but I think I'd rather go back to boot cants.

Thanks very much for your time and advice.


1. One option you could try is adding the 8mm toe lug to these boots (stock is 4mm), to make them a bit more upright. Or you could check your bindings, and lift their toes if they are not flat. (Note, this takes a very skilled shop.) These are your only good options.

2. Few boots have truly adjustable forward lean, but the new Lange World Cup series (a semi-race boot) is more upright than the production boot that you have. It also skis better (but similarly).

3. You do need to be more careful with boot flex when you go to a more upright boot. IMO, the 120 and 130 flex boots should be fine for you.

4. Not sure where you can get those. You could try Surefoot, although this means you would not be able to use the 8mm toe lifts.

Good luck,
Jeff Bergeron
Boot Fixation
post #19 of 104
question 21
=Tim HughesHi Jeff,

I'm looking to buy some new boots this season. I'll probably be buying at Northern Ski Works or The Basin in Killington, so hopefully the fitters there can give me good advice.

I'm 42 years old, 160lb, 5'10". I take a UK 7 1/2 shoe. I've got flat feet with a fairly narrow heel/ankle. My ski ability is probably a 6 on the ratings people seem to use around here, but I'd like to improve.

Currently, I'm in some 27.5MP Raichle F-Ones I've had for four years, but they've packed out and are now way to sloppy - I'm down to the last latch on the buckles.

I ski almost entirely on piste (95%), 25 days or so a year, about half on the east coast and half on the west. At the moment my skis are Salomon Equipe 10 SC's in 165cm which are a giant leap forward over my old Volkls - my instructor recommended some slalom race skis ("forget that all-mountain ****" was the quote!), but that seemed to be going a bit too far.
  1. What sort of boot would you recommend, not just particular models - I'm interested to know how "advanced" I should be going (I guess I don't need one of the near-race boots you're recommending to others) so I have some idea if the boot techs at the shop are believing me when I tell them my ability level!

It sounds like your instructor and I would get along well. Anyway.....

1. Sounds like you are going to want a high level production boot. Some decent options here might be the Tecnica Diablo Magnesium, the Atomic M100, The Fischer RC4 Competition and the Dalbello Proton. Either way, whatever you get should be considerably better than your current boots!

Good luck,
Jeff Bergeron
Boot Fixation
post #20 of 104
question 22
Hi Jeff
I am M 43 years old like to ski steeps, trees, powder, crud. Advanced skiier currently ski on 13 year old solomon evolution 9.0, I think. These are the purple barney boots. My feet are wide E. narrow heel, fat calfs. The solomons fit well but are well packed out. Foot size in Ski boots 7.5. Pronate a great deal, i have orthotics in my existing boots. Looking for something a little softer than current Barney boots. Ski in Utah and California

1) What do you think about the Head S13 boots? My skiis are Bandit XXX
2) What other boots would you recommend?

Thanks for your help.

You do have my sympathy, for feet like yours are not easy to get into ski boots. Still, with the right boots and good boot work there is hope...

1. Not my favorite boot for you. The Head S13 has a fairly high instep, and is quite bulky (IMO).

2. Consider trying an Atomic B100. IMO.

Good luck,
Jeff Bergeron
Boot Fixation
post #21 of 104
question 23

Let me say thank you for answering my questions. But i forgot to ask you something. I think many high end skiers will be interested in this subject: the Nordica Dobermann Aggressor boots.

Background: male skier, 155lbs, 5 foot 9, i have a medium-narrow foot (D width forefoot) with a medium-narrow instep. I fit pretty well in narrow boots.


1. What is your opinion on the Aggressor boots?
2. Is the Aggressor 150 stiffer than the WC 150? (some posts on another forum seemed to suggest that).
3. In your opinion, do the Aggressor boots actually enhance turn initiation (for many/most people) or do they work only for random skiers?
4. I am just curious: do the Aggressor boots require flex modification?

I noticed that the Aggressor boots cost more than the WC models.

I hope you'll have a great season!
Thanks again,

D width is medium narrow? Anyway, I still think I know what you mean. (As in it is not high volume.)

1. Awesome boot, but not for everyone. Basically, it depends on your alignment. I do not wish to cover this point any further at this time.
2. IMO, it is not any stiffer. It is slightly roomier, and that could explain the difference they felt in flex.
3. IMO, they only work for certain skiers, although this is a fairly big percentage of the population.
4. Often, but it largely depends on the skiers foot shape. (More than even their weight.)

As for price, IMO Nordica has gotten very proud of themselves recently.... Still, for the right person these are phenomenal boots.

I am sure we will talk again....
Jeff Bergeron
Boot Fixation
post #22 of 104
question 24

I hope to get the chance to make an appointment with you later in the year if my budget allows, for now I was wondering if you have any recommendations so I can budget a little. I am 6'2", 220 lbs, 24 year old, expert (type 9) skier. I currently have Dolomite Sintesi 8.5's with a 323 mm sole. I wear 11.5 street shoes. I ski mainly black and double black at the Summit County resorts and lots of bumps over at Mary Jane.

1. Really my only question, do you have any recommendations on a couple models that I should be looking at?
I need a bit more information. How wide are your feet? Do you have a low or high instep? Do you prefer boots with more or less forward lean? (Be to sure to include the above information again, btw.)

Send me this info and I should be able to give you a reasonably good answer.

Jeff Bergeron
Boot Fixation
post #23 of 104
question 25
Jeff, thankyou for a great service!

Pete 64yrs, 5'11, 195 35 yr skier, old racer, instructor. Not going to treach this year and just going skiing. Really going to concentrate on off piste and powder. Bought 179 Bros, also ski on Fischer RX9 and Atomic Metron B5. Ski almost all terrrain.. Enjoy fast cruising on RX9's but groomer and off piste on B5's. Last boots Atomicsa, before that Technicas all the way back to Scotts. Question

1. Tried on some Dalbello's last week (06 model) and was very impressed with flex continuity and comfort. Whats your opinion?

2. I think I have been buy boots too big as they seem to pack out all too fast. St wise I'm a 9, last boot 27, sole 312. Problem is finding a boot fitter up here that is real.

3. I understand I can get an optional "thermal liner". I really don't actually know what this is other than the obvious and should I get it when I buy boots or can I wait till factory liner packs a little etc.?

4.. I really like the continusous flex feel of this boot but through years , too many, of experience I've learned not to necessarily trust what I feel in the shop.

Anyway any help for this boot or any other brand/model would be appreciated. I have high arches and my left foot is bigger than my Right other than that no real anomalies. Thanks Pete Oh yea ski in Northern Idaho and Canada - almost never any ice.

1. IMO, the new Dalbello Proton looks impressive. It seems to have a nice snug fit with a good flex pattern.
2. I feel your pain.... (Is there a question there?)
3. I am not a big fan of thermo flex type liners. IMO, they are not very durable and offer less holding power. They are, however, quite warm. Dalbello also says they have made some key improvements to these, although I have not yet been able to test this claim.
4. I think you will be happy with their flex pattern. (I know I was happy with it.)

Good luck,
Jeff Bergeron
Boot Fixation
post #24 of 104
question 26
Hi Jeff,

I am 47, 6' 0", 240lbs, skier type 8 or 9, I grew up skiing Michigan Ice but I prefer anything ungroomed and steep (75% on piste/25% off piste). My foot is a street shoe size of 11, 4 - 5E width, high volume, very high arch and instep, narrow heels, skinny ankles, large calves, short toes. Currently skiing in old Nordica GPS's.

1) Any suggestions for replacements (I know anything I buy will need stretching)?
2) What do you think about Strolz custom boots as an option (are they worth it)?

Thank you!
Unfortunately, the ski boot companies do not yet make a boot that is ideal for you. The wide boots tend to be too soft and wide at the heels, while the stiffer boots that are narrower in the heels also tend to be narrower in the forefoot.

As far as boots that could work, you could try the Atomic B100, the Nordica Speedmachine 14, and the Nordica Beast 14.

I am not a fan of the Strolz boots, but I have not seen their more recent designs. (Which I expect, but do not know, if they are the same as the old designs.)

post #25 of 104
question 27
by Falcon o

Thank you for the feedback and excellent direction. Following your advice I spent due diligence time in a local shop following your recommendations. I have narrowed my choices to the Dabello Proton 100 or Dabello Krypton Cross with the Dabello Intuition thermo fit liner. I liked the stiffer flex of the Kryptons (the shop didn't have the Proton 120) and the fit, without thermo forming, seemed snug in the heel and not overly tight around the calf.


1. How do the Protons 120 (Dabello website @ 12) compare in flex to the Krypton Cross (Dabello website @ 8 15) ?

2. How much stiffer would I find the Krypton Cross to be in the cold vs ski shop warmth ?

3. All I've read on the new DI liners indicates they are warm, provide good heel fit and are durable. What is your experience ?

4. Do you still believe I would be better with a Proton vs Cross with DI liner ?

Once again, your advice is appreciated - Charlie
1. I have not tested the two side by side, but I expect they would be fairly even.
2. Not hugely stiffer.
3. I have not yet been able to test these. Normally, thermoflex-type liners (made mostly of EVA foam) do not last as long as standard type liners, but perhaps they have found an answer for that.
4. Without seeing you in person, my sense is the Proton may be better. Still, this is only a guess without seeing you in person.

Jeff Bergeron
Boot Fixation
post #26 of 104
question 28
from Dan5252

I hope to get the chance to make an appointment with you later in the year if my budget allows, for now I was wondering if you have any recommendations so I can budget a little. I am 6'2", 220 lbs, 24 year old, expert (type 9) skier. I currently have Dolomite Sintesi 8.5's with a 323 mm sole. I wear 11.5 street shoes. I ski mainly black and double black at the Summit County resorts and lots of bumps over at Mary Jane.

To answer the questions you had:
1. I have slightly wider than normal feet, I wear normal width shoes but did have to have my old boots adjusted a bit before they were comfortable.
2. I think my instep is pretty average, neither particularly high or low.
3. I think I prefer a little more forward lean in my boots although I'm not 100% sure I know the correlation between the difference in how forward the boots leans and how it affects your skiing

1. Really my only question, do you have any recommendations on a couple models that I should be looking at?



If you want the best blend of performance, warmth and comfort, these are a few boots you may want to check. Tecnica Diablo Magma, the Dalbello Proton and the Fischer RC4 World Cup (not the World Cup PRO).

If performance and quick response is your biggest concern, you may want to start with some semi-race boots. The Atomic Race Tech CS 130, the Lange World Cup 130 HP (or Rossi Radical Pro), or the Salomon Falcon

Jeff Bergeron
Boot Fixation
post #27 of 104
question 29
Jeff, thanks in advance

I'm a 46 year old male, 6'2", 225, aggressive skier with a history of bad boot fits and problem feet. I have size 11 feet with broad toe area, narrow hills and low arches. Due to poor fitting Lange's 8 to 10 years ago and several boots before that, I had bunion removal surgery 5 years ago and have arthritis problems in both great toes. Been using Nordica Doberman's for the last 6 years that I had the inside toe areas blown out which helped (especially before surgery). I still commonly have blister issues on both inside heels (same problem with snowboard boots). I think this is because of narrow heel problem and sliding of heel. I would like to move into a new pair of boots once again. So, with that, my questions.

1. Can you recommend a brand/model that would be best for my problem feet?

2. I was considering custom boots like DaleBoot - what do you think about this?

3. I live in Pennsylvania, but could travel to find the right boots. What do you suggest?



You are in a Nordica Dobermann but you are considering a DaleBoot? Those are very different boots.... Anyway

1. If you want a race boot, consider trying the Atomic Race Tech TI 130 (or 150) or its semi-race version, the Race Tech CS 130. IMO.
2. That would not be my first choice for you.
3. IMO, you need to travel to a good boot tech.
post #28 of 104
question 30
by Alu

Background: male skier, average foot, medium instep, 165lbs. I am an advanced skier. I am looking for a very high performance boot with a more upright stance for freeskiing. With the Tecnica Race Pro my quads were on fire. I am looking at the Nordica Hot Rod Top Fuel and the Dobermann WC 150. I can get the Hot Rod cheaper than the WC 150. I can (and i will) try the Hot Rod but i would have to order the WC 150. This would not be a problem because i would order the WC 150 in the same size. But i am looking for a freeskiing boot and i think that for all day skiing in all conditions the Hot Rod would be better (especially for non-racers). But i am worried about the instep on the Hot Rod. You stated that the Hot Rod has a medium volume fit which is much better than many other boots (great news for me!) but you also said that it has a bit more room over the instep.


1. In your experience, does the Hot Rod's instep work well for people with a medium instep? As you know, a higher instep means less control...

2. Is the instep on the Hot Rod higher than the WC 150's instep? I think they are similar or even identical but i need to know your opinion.

3. Is the Hot Rod a great boot for freeskiing with a more upright stance?

Thank you very much.


1. IMO, the Hot Rod is fine for people with a medium instep, but is not good for those with lower insteps.
2. Yes, it seems to be slightly higher (IMO, due to its thinner plastic) Still, it is not a big difference.
3. The Hot Rod can definitely work well as a free ski boot. The only thing I would change on the boot is to give it a snugger heel fit.

Jeff Bergeron
Boot Fixation
post #29 of 104
question 31
by XT17
Hi Jeff,

Background: A friend of mine is looking for new boots. He is 5 foot 9, 185lbs, intermediate skier with a somewhat wider foot. He is defintely not a D width at the forefoot. So he is either an E or EE at the forefoot. He has a pretty high instep.
Although he is an intermediate skier, he wants to improve his technique and wants a boot which will help him do just that.
He is looking at two boots: The Nordica Speedmachine (04/05 model) and The Beast (again, 04/05 model).


1. Do you think the Nordicas would be good choices for an intermediate skier looking to improve his technique?

2. What are the differences in fit between the two boots? I heard that they share the same last and possibly the same liners.

3. Does the Beast have a slightly thicker liner than the Speedmachine?

4. Do the Speedmachine or the Beast run large by size?

5. Do the Spedmachine or the Beast's liners pack out a lot? It's very important for him to know.

Thanks a lot!

1. As far as improving technique, the Nordica Speedmachine boot can work very well for many skiers.
2. The Beast is wider in the forefoot and heel, slightly lower over the instep and has more forward lean. Both are good boots, but your friend may fit better into the Beast.
3. Yes, mostly in the heel pocket.
4. The Beast runs somewhat large by size.
5. Yes, both pack out a fair amount, although the Beast liners will pack out the most.

Jeff Bergeron
Pres, Boot Fixation
post #30 of 104
question 32
by Volklgirl

I tried on several boots this weekend. Ugh! Most were too wide from the midfoot back. They didn't have the upper end Langes in my size, so I couldn't try them.

Just for kicks though, I did try the Lange Exclusive 80. It had a fantastic fit, but I'm concerned about stiffness and having the cushy liner packing out. (41yr old, 195lbs, PSIA LII, Nastar Platinum - moving up to Masters this year.)

1. Is the 100 going to be enough boot for me, or do I keep looking?
1. The 100 will probably be too soft for you. You should also make sure that they are not too far forward for you either. Perhaps you would do better with the Lange Fluid 120, which is similar to the exclusive line. Still, be careful with the forward lean. IMO.

Jeff Bergeron
Pres, Boot Fixation
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