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World Cup on TV in 06/07 ?

post #1 of 25
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Last year, here in the United States we were fortunate enough to have decent, semi-regular TV coverage of the World Cup as OLN did their "10 Weeks to Torino" series. The year before was very sparsely covered; NBC carried a couple races at odd times and showed the World Championships.

Does anybody know what sort of TV coverage we can expect in 06/07? There's nothing on OLN's website yet.

Thanks!
post #2 of 25
Last year was much much better than that Winter Revolution crap they did the year before. But without Bode or the Olympics this year, hopefully they will at least go back to the Sunday afternoon FIS coverage and not scrap it entirely. Sunday afternoon FIS has always been the best quality coverage from OLN - just the race and none of the fluff. OLN is notoriously last minute about announcing these things so just keep your fingers crossed for now.

I heard that CBC is going to do a ton of winter sports coverage starting this winter through 2010 in order to build up enthusiasm for Vancouver. I may have to build/send a hommade remote access DVR up to one of my canadian buddies so I can record it all! The CBC coverage is almost guaranteed to be less sensationalized, less America centric, and more thorough than anything OLN (or god forbid a major US network) will produce.
post #3 of 25
VS (nee OLN) has to make way for competitive, high energy sports like darts, poker, or bowling, so I'm betting we lose out.
post #4 of 25
Last year, a number of folks from this forum e-mailed OLN and the results were pretty good. More coverage was provided than OLN had originally scheduled. Can't hurt! ("http://www.versus.tv/")
post #5 of 25

World Cup on TV

Here is a TV listing from the US Ski Team website. Apparently, there will only be five World Cup races broadcast in the U.S. this year, three on OLN and two on NBC, all of them from U.S. hills

http://www.usskiteam.com/public/tv.php?&dId=6

Is there any way to get TSN or CBC in the U.S.?

Richr
post #6 of 25
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Is there any way to get TSN or CBC in the U.S.?
Some US cable systems carry CBC. So far as I can tell, it's the ones in the markets which are in reach of a CBC station by broadcast. In other words, probably not that many.
post #7 of 25
The station you want is Sportsnet. It is owned by Roger's Cable in Canada. All FIS races not picked up by the CBC. CBC only carries the Canadian and Kitzbuhel races.

The commentary is also much better than the CBC. Karen Lee-Gartner (whose husband is Max Gartner, an exec for CAST) is always lamenting about just "how hard" the team is working and we are "so close", blah, blah, blah. Horrible.

Sportsnet has Brian Stemmle who doesn't pull any punches. If the team stinks it up, he will let it be known.

Anyway, try to get Roger's Sportsnet. All the races, all the disciplines, plus Warren Miller TV (as bad as it is, it's still skiing) every weeknight, and Pontiac World of Skiing every week.
post #8 of 25
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CBC only carries the Canadian and Kitzbuhel races.
I think they carried a couple of other ones. At least last season. The coverage wasn't really extensive, though.

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Karen Lee-Gartner (whose husband is Max Gartner, an exec for CAST) is always lamenting about just "how hard" the team is working and we are "so close", blah, blah, blah.
Yeah, she rubs me the wrong way too. I kind of like Brian Williams, though.
post #9 of 25
I used to work for OLN. They usually did do the FIS deals fairly last minute. Also, they have to deal with each country individually. After those deals are made though their production costs are minimal because they are taking the feed and just adding in english commentary. They usually send along one camera to get some background and interviews.

The ratings, however, suck. So if they can get bowling or darts or cheerleading or.... they probably will.
post #10 of 25
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...The ratings, however, suck. So if they can get bowling or darts or cheerleading or.... they probably will.
Hence all the coverage of Olympic Curling?

(Now there's a sport made for beer drinking. You can get hammered and still look like a pro... fall over, slide down the sheet half way to the "house" before letting go of the stone... Just get up, give your critic a rather aloof look, and name the move after some small town in upstate NY. "Ehem. Why, yes, I meant to do that. I was merely using the Plattsburgh technique."

The first time I saw that sport it looked like the thrower was frozen. I thought "Gee, this must be a Twilight Zone re-make. Yeah... I remember this one... She's anti-social and just reads books. She broke her watch and time stops. She'll wake up at the end of the show and realize that she should be socializing in a ski lodge bar over a nice apple martini..."

Question: if Curling made everyone wear a white belt, white shoes, plaid pants, and a cap, could they start to steal folks away from shuffleboard and really drive up those ratings?

"Curling: When the physical demands of bowling are just too great.")

Sigh. I miss the old days of OLN when they showed FIS every Thursday night.
post #11 of 25
My friends and I once watched women's curling on tv every night for a week up in BC and never did learn how the score worked or anything we didn't know within the first five minutes. Just a lot of women furiously yelling "harder!" and sliding around on the ice.

I can't blame a network for not showing ski racing. I can imagine how abysmal the ratings are.

Will anyone in the world be selling a high quality stream on the interweb?
post #12 of 25
Try this. Not sure how good the quality is but I watched the Giro earlier this year and it was pretty good. I'm a track fan and watched a couple of the Golden League Meets here as well. Requires a membership tho'.

WCSN.Com
post #13 of 25
Excellent, thank you for the link.
post #14 of 25
I signed up for WCSN.com and I'm watching the Are SG now. How do I make it full screen? It's kinda small...
post #15 of 25
How is the quality of the 350k stream? That is my only concern, I'd gladly pay more for a bigger stream. When I was playing with it there was a fullscreen button that opened the stream fullscreen in WMP, but I have WMP10 beta installed so your mileage may vary.
post #16 of 25
I'm on a Mac, and not computer savvy. I managed to save as a Quicktime movie, but it took a long time. I guess I need Quicktime pro to get full screen, but I could select "fit to screen" which shows it big. It looked a little bad, not a very clear picture and my screen is only 13". But I could see better what is happening compared to the little viewer it streamed to, it's not horrible, I like it. I'm glad I purchased a subscription.
post #17 of 25
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I'm on a Mac, and not computer savvy. I managed to save as a Quicktime movie, but it took a long time. I guess I need Quicktime pro to get full screen, but I could select "fit to screen" which shows it big. It looked a little bad, not a very clear picture and my screen is only 13". But I could see better what is happening compared to the little viewer it streamed to, it's not horrible, I like it. I'm glad I purchased a subscription.
It lets you save the streams? Didn't expect that. I'm going to go subscribe regardless now.

WMV9 content doesn't work for beans on Macs last I checked, so I guess you are stuck with QT. If they aren't encoding in H.264, QT is going to be quite a bit worse quality than WMV at a given bitrate. This is all more or less irrelevant if they will let you save the files. I have always found it peculiar that Apple advertises the iLife stuff but doesn't include a fully functional media player with their product.
post #18 of 25
You might want to wait until ski season to start subscription. I didn't realize, but I paid another $5 to watch that race. The bicycling worlds are "on-demand" also. I guess you have to catch the big events live or pay extra. There are older ski races that don't cost extra, but WC finals and all cycling are PPV...

Save as QT was the only way I could figure to make the picture bigger. Glad I did save it now that I realize I paid extra. I might not be able to do that with the live feeds?
post #19 of 25
If they don't provide the functionality to record live feeds, there are numerous utilities which capture streams at a low level and then reassemble them into video files. I don't mind mentioning this because maintaining an archival copy for personal use of content you've paid for is generally legal.

I'm not familiar enough with Mac to be able to suggest any software though.

edit: yeah, I'm thinking of waiting and doing the month-to-month subscription starting next month.
post #20 of 25
If this site receives a standard analog tv broadcast and converts it into a digital format it is guaranteed to look like garbage on a full size computer screen because the resolution of their source is so low relative to the resolution of your monitor. Hook your computer up to an analog TV and the picture should look normal.

Have any Windows users been able to save the movies as quicktime?

Who, if anybody, is doing the announcing over the top of the footage?
post #21 of 25
Some brit. The site doesn't know me now. Not good.
post #22 of 25
I read somewhere that the FIS is thinking about broadcasting some races online??
Thank god I´m living in Austria, the only country where you are able to watch EVERY WC-race on TV... I guess you all want to see these races live, but if not, maybe I would be able to burn them on DVD, if someone is interested in them.. Just let me know..
post #23 of 25
Here is a press release from SkiRacing.com regarding the status on World Cup broadcasts this season.
post #24 of 25
I sure hope that OLN will cover WC races this eason. I really looked foward to seeing them all last season, however, that was an exception because of the Olympics.

I won't rule out the possibly of OLN adding last minutes races.
post #25 of 25
The FIS is putting live and on-demand coverage on the World Championship Sports Network (WCSN)...includes full World Cup coverage with Men’s and Woman’s Super G, snowboarding, nordic combined, freestyle and ski jumping events, starting Nov. 11. You can pay month to month ($4.95) or for the year ($49.95), but you get access to all the sports too...and other on-demand videos, highlights, photo galleries, editorials, etc.

Website is www.wcsn.com.
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