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Who cares about the USST?

post #1 of 30
Thread Starter 
No, seriously.
If the USST did not exist, or did not ocassionally have winners, would it mean people would give up skiing? Would you?
If Bode changes skis, do you?

Yes, you may support the team, but what relevance does it have to the guy who skis 10 days a year?
post #2 of 30
If the USST were to disappear overnight it wouldn't affect my life one bit.

I like ski racing, I enjoy watching it (wouldn't it be nice if there was a way to watch WC races on TV in the US!!) but the USST doesn't have any direct impact on me or my love of the sport.
post #3 of 30
Well, Fox, I'm not quite sure what you are getting at. If Chelsea doesn't win the FA cup, will Londoners give up playing amateur or pick-up soccer games? If David Beckham changes sponsors, will fans necessarily follow his recommendations? I think most folks know athletes usually sponsor the products that have paid the most for their endorsement!

Personally, I like watching the best in the world compete and enjoy watching any great competitors in any sport push the limits of their abilities and excel. Of course, it's nice when competitors from the home team do well, but the sport itself is the draw for me. How a World Cup competitor does doesn't affect my enjoyment of going out and making runs! I would guess it's the same for most skiers who only ski 10 days a year.
post #4 of 30
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Originally Posted by mike_m View Post
Of course, it's nice when competitors from the home team do well, but the sport itself is the draw for me.
Mike, I agree about the home team, and the enjoyment of watching the sport - but it's almost like the skiing vs sex thread - IF you had to choose between the USST having winners for the next 5 years, or them to struggle to get anyone into the top 10 at any race for 5 years, but you have great conditions on your slopes for you to enjoy for 5 years, which would you go for?
post #5 of 30
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Originally Posted by Wear The Fox Hat View Post
IF you had to choose between the USST having winners for the next 5 years, or them to struggle to get anyone into the top 10 at any race for 5 years, but you have great conditions on your slopes for you to enjoy for 5 years, which would you go for?
Well, I don't like to make anyone suffer for my pleasure, but I'd still go for the 5 years of great snow.
post #6 of 30
I'm afraid I don't follow the question at all.

If there had never been an F. Scott Fitzgerald, would you still like to go to parties?

Would you rather eliminate all of Picasso's works or never eat grapefruit?

Which is more important, Meryl Streep or colorful fall foliage?
post #7 of 30
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Well, I don't like to make anyone suffer for my pleasure, but I'd still go for the 5 years of great snow.
Ditto that, especially coming from the Mid-Atlantic.
post #8 of 30
I hate to be the cynic (again), but I think that ski racing has about as much relevance for 98% of people who ski as World Federation Wrestling. You may watch or follow ski racing (if you can find it), but skiing you do as part of your active life. Bode goes to a bar and does or doesn't win a race, Paris Hilton does whatever, both may be interesting to know about but neither has any affect on my choices regarding equipment or skiing life. I consider myself a very serious skier and I don't even know what USST stands for. It is good to have inspirational heros but (at least in the USA) it does not appear to be a requirement for skiers.
post #9 of 30
Fox, surely you're joking! Five years of great conditions, please!
post #10 of 30
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Originally Posted by mike_m View Post
Fox, surely you're joking! Five years of great conditions, please!

See, now you get my point!
post #11 of 30
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Originally Posted by Wear The Fox Hat View Post
If the USST did not exist, or did not ocassionally have winners, would it mean people would give up skiing? Would you?
If Bode changes skis, do you?
TROLL
I'm turning you into the moderators!:
post #12 of 30
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TROLL
I'm turning you into one of the moderators!:

I don't want to be one of the moderators - they are all a bunch of **%$£@##s
post #13 of 30
Even when we weren't winning (geeze, I make sound like we're Austria or something), the best skiers in the country were on or had aspirations at one time to make the US Ski Team (by that I mean one the various teams under that organization). It provides a focal point, a target, to aim at for those seeking to judge themselves objectively against the best in the country. For instance, I have been weighed, measured, and been found (severely) wanting.

Would I still ski if there was no US Ski Team, no World Cup, or no racing altogether? Absolutely- but I'd still be trying to speed past everyone on the slope.
post #14 of 30
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I don't want to be one of the moderators - they are all a bunch of **%$£@##s
Am I to assume that **%$@##'s means, "Ski gods"
?
post #15 of 30
Thread Starter 
trekchick, I'll let you think it means whatever you want. Now would you mind keeping this thread on topic...
post #16 of 30
Sorry for the hijack
I know a certain little 10 year old girl who wants to be just like Lindsey Kildow.
If that gets her juices flowing and keeps her skiing, then

I use Chapstick because my lips dry out. Not because Picaboo uses it, Or do I
post #17 of 30
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I use Chapstick because my lips dry out. Not because Picaboo uses it, Or do I
So, the marketing/advertising women have succeeded. Whether you bought because of her endorsement or not is immaterial - the fact is that you know she is paid by them to be seen advertising their product.
post #18 of 30
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I use Chapstick because my lips dry out. Not because Picaboo uses it, Or do I
hey, it was Suzy that used chapstick as I recall.
post #19 of 30
I care about the USST!!! It is fun to follow our national team athletes as they compete in World Cups on down to Nor-Ams and regional FIS races. I can understand why someone would have no interest in racing and the USST, but it is a fun aspect of our sport. By the way Fox Hat which USST are you asking about? There are 6 different skiing sports under USSA's NGB umbrella all of which field teams...
Have fun.
post #20 of 30
Yea Suzy, she get's my vote.

Oh yea, back on track, if you had been a race parent, you'd understand.
post #21 of 30
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Originally Posted by skier_j View Post
hey, it was Suzy that used chapstick as I recall.
Suzy of course, but Picaboo did too. I know this because the ski resort had her ad on a lift pole for a couple years.
Picaboo is a one of a kind!
post #22 of 30
personally i would like to see the ski racing scene go the way of formula one with corporate teams i think the national team concept is flawed in an individual sport and the industry itself cannot support it without taking a financial hit....
post #23 of 30
I only buy Barilla pasta and Barilla pasta sauce. (Favorites: Barilla PLUS spagetti and the Arrabbiata sauce). I'd be willing to spend a day alpine skiing if Bode or Lindsey wins the WC this year. Otherwise, forget it, not interested.

Most Americans including American recreational skiers don't follow ski racing.
post #24 of 30
I care. It doesn't make me change gear, buy a Chevy Truck or invest with Schwab, but I care because skiing a WC DH is as bad ass a thing to do as exists in this world...and I like rootin' for the yanks...
post #25 of 30
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Originally Posted by telerod15 View Post
Most Americans including American recreational skiers don't follow ski racing.
Most Americans can't name their own senators (unless an election is imminent, when they can name the one who's in the TV commercials) or two Supreme Court justices, either.
post #26 of 30
If ski racing in general went away I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.
post #27 of 30
If there was no US Ski Team, we would not get the superb Olympic and WC television coverage of the sport we do.
post #28 of 30
Although this thread was started with a little tongue in cheek, I think it is really something to think about.

I sincerely posed this question to a couple of kids last night. Both of them can name a few skiers that they think are "totally cool" One of the kids is really excited about the mogul skiing coverage(bummed that there isn't much coverage)
I guess if a kid is into skiing instead of other sports and we have good role models in the sport, that is a good thing.
post #29 of 30
Growing up in a relatively flat part of Southwestern Ontario (pretty bad, isn't it,when parts of Ontario seem mountainous compared to your region) one of the things that hooked me on skiing as a kid was watching DH on TV. Nothing seemed cooler or more exciting/dangerous than Rob Boyd flying down the hill on CBC's Sport's Saturday.
post #30 of 30
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Originally Posted by waxman View Post
personally i would like to see the ski racing scene go the way of formula one with corporate teams i think the national team concept is flawed in an individual sport and the industry itself cannot support it without taking a financial hit....
I used to wonder why skiing wasn't run like auto racing. But from what I understand, until sometime in the 60's, national teams were only named for big races like the World Championships and the Olympics. Before that, most teams were semi-private but then Canada formed a year-round national team with much success, which started the current trend. (Not sure of the accuracy from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Canucks)

The Jeep "King of the mountain" series is more or less a corporate series as you suggest, as were the professional racing tours of the 70's and 80's. Sorry, but compared to the World Cup, they all suck.

Comparing skiing to auto racing might not be fair. F1 and other auto racing series aren't just supported by racing fans or people who buy high-performance sports cars. A large part of the entire automotive industry has stakes in the development, marketing, and success of Auto racing teams, and the auto manufacturers benefit directly not only due to the publicity and brand loyalty generated by winning, but by the testing and advancement in technology that racing provides, amongst many other ways.

On the other hand, the ski industry is miniscule and specialized in comparison, and so racing probably could never have the same kind of impact on the general public. (Most people don't ski to work, they drive cars). Skiing is an Olympic sport, and the Olympics divides competitors by nation. When it comes to nations competing against nations, national pride is at stake no matter how obscure or elitist the sport, and so governments get involved in supporting such sports. True, ski racing probably wouldn't be nearly as big as it is now without government funding. But then again, neither would the arms industry.
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