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post #31 of 53

Awesome posts here.. We're looking to go to Whistler possibly next season but not 100% set in stone. We just hit PC, which was my first time in February this year and I feel super confident and great on my board but JH would be fantastic too. My bf has been riding for 10 years and I've only been riding 2, but after this year.. I feel I can ride anything. Rode everything at PC blues and blacks and got progressively better every single day we were out there.

 

Tahoe perhaps if not, Whistler it sounds like.. And Chile is on our bucket list in a few years ;)

post #32 of 53
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Awesome posts here.. We're looking to go to Whistler possibly next season but not 100% set in stone. We just hit PC, which was my first time in February this year and I feel super confident and great on my board but JH would be fantastic too. My bf has been riding for 10 years and I've only been riding 2, but after this year.. I feel I can ride anything. Rode everything at PC blues and blacks and got progressively better every single day we were out there.

 

Tahoe perhaps if not, Whistler it sounds like.. And Chile is on our bucket list in a few years ;)

The steeps at Whistler and especially Blackcomb are steeper and more difficult than anything at Park City...

post #33 of 53
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Originally Posted by LunaDeathStryke View Post

Awesome posts here.. We're looking to go to Whistler possibly next season but not 100% set in stone. We just hit PC, which was my first time in February this year and I feel super confident and great on my board but JH would be fantastic too. My bf has been riding for 10 years and I've only been riding 2, but after this year.. I feel I can ride anything. Rode everything at PC blues and blacks and got progressively better every single day we were out there.

Tahoe perhaps if not, Whistler it sounds like.. And Chile is on our bucket list in a few years wink.gif

After 2yrs.......you're probably fantastic and can ride anything in Virginia. But Jackson Hole and Whistler/Blackcomb both have real serious expert terrain that'll scare the crap out of you.
post #34 of 53
What's the big difference you think with those and Utah? We went there this year too and did fine. Thanks for your input btw!!
post #35 of 53
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What's the big difference you think with those and Utah? We went there this year too and did fine. Thanks for your input btw!!

Steeper, less margin for error, more vertical. Did you ride at Snowbird?

Trail ratings aren't transferable between resorts - they are only for that specific resort. For example, Thaynes @ PCMR might get a blue rating at JH. No offense to PCMR
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post #36 of 53
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What's the big difference you think with those and Utah? We went there this year too and did fine. Thanks for your input btw!!


There is real crux skiing at JH and Whistler.  Crux as in if you fall, you can die.  I don't think there is anything like that at PC.  At least not that I found when I skied there.

 

JH is an expert's mountain.  Sure, there is intermediate terrain, but there isn't that much and much of it would easily be a black run at other destination resorts.  If you aren't able to ski/ride the expert terrain, you will likely soon become frustrated with the lack of terrain.  Understand that the average slope of JH from the top to the bottom is something in the 30+ degree range.  It is a steep mountain.

 

Whistler/Blackcomb has a lot of expert terrain, perhaps even more than JH.  It also has a lot of intermediate terrain.  It is much less limiting to a non-expert skier/rider than JH.

 

Mike

post #37 of 53

Both places are great and quite different from each other.  Whistler is lower and subject to a maritime climate.  It can rain to the top.  Or, it can be a lot of great snow and great skiing.  Whistler village is a complete walkable town with great bus service in the nearby area.  Jackson can get much better quality snow (drier), but usually not as deep as Utah.  As we've seen in the last few years, weather patterns are goofy, so don't count on anything.  The description above of the mountain is a good one.  4000 vertical and all good.  Jackson ski area is a bit of a bus ride from Jackson town.

 

I've had a Whistler season pass for a couple of years, and I lived in Jackson for 7 years.  I'll get another pass to Whistler next year, and I'll make a week visit to Jackson.

post #38 of 53

If you were comfortable at Snowbird you'll be fine at Jackson.  There's very little at Park City for you to make that evaluation; just a few short steep pitches at the top of Jupiter and 9990.   Steeps are far more numerous and far more sustained at Snowbird and Jackson.

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Trail ratings aren't transferable between resorts - they are only for that specific resort. For example, Thaynes @ PCMR might get a blue rating at JH. No offense to PCMR

+1  Trail ratings are useless in comparing resorts, as has been discussed in numerous threads here.

post #39 of 53
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Awesome posts here.. We're looking to go to Whistler possibly next season but not 100% set in stone. We just hit PC, which was my first time in February this year and I feel super confident and great on my board but JH would be fantastic too. My bf has been riding for 10 years and I've only been riding 2, but after this year.. I feel I can ride anything. Rode everything at PC blues and blacks and got progressively better every single day we were out there.

 

Tahoe perhaps if not, Whistler it sounds like.. And Chile is on our bucket list in a few years ;)

 

My usual stops are SLC and WB.

 

PC is great for a tune up, but terrain - ummm, no - it's at best OK. Best in the region is Snowbird, and if you can deal with the hardest its got then you're good most anywhere.

 

WB is a WHOLE 'nother story. You have NO idea what technical and difficult is until you spend some time on the tough stuff at WB. You know how everyone is an "Least Coast Expert"? Just watch them flail at WB.

 

Ignorance is bliss, and I've seen it many times, when "experts" get owned at WB.

post #40 of 53

Thanks everyone!

 

We aren't sure yet, still way up in the air. But leaning more towards Whistler and I know weather is iffy so we're always taking a chance. We planned/bought everything November 2015 and went to Utah in February 2016. But, no we did not get a chance to go to Snowbird, we wanted to but just didn't happen. We only rode at PCMR and TCMR and it was fun, but very warm the days we were there. All but one day it snowed but only snowed about 1-3".

 

We're game for most anything but we don't ride the same stuff always. Although, when at PCMR, I preferred that over TCMR and rode all the blacks there in the end. Again, this is only my 2nd season in and progressively getting better and want to challenge myself more next season. So we're contemplating Tahoe area or Whistler. Maybe not JH yet, maybe in 2018 lol or 2019 :p

post #41 of 53
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You know how everyone is an "Least Coast Expert"? Just watch them flail at WB.

That's somewhat of a broad brush.   Eastern skiers who have been intensively race trained and/or are skilled skiing in tight Vermont trees adjust easily to western/Alps steeps or deep powder by my observation. 

 

But someone living in Virginia who has been skiing for only 2 years will find that a lot of terrain at Snowbird, Jackson and W/B is still way beyond the comfort and safety zone.

post #42 of 53

All good info.. Neither of us have been to Whistler, he's been riding for 10 years and has done Montana, Colorado, Utah, etc. So his level is obviously above mine. But, I don't have much to compare to since I've only been to Utah now and just Snowshoe in WV, etc. Which is no where near what I hear by all of you guys' comments would be comparable. Tahoe may be a better move then for us, maybe Whistler the following year. We're planning on going somewhere every year for snowboarding so.. just depends where.. I'm just trying to gauge whether or not it'd be worth it for us to go to Whistler.

 

Originally, we were going to go to JH with me only have 1 year under my belt but now this is my 2nd year and I'm fine but again, we were only in Utah for 5 days riding. So maybe just Tahoe :)

post #43 of 53

Don't over analyze.  Everyone is making a big deal of how much expert terrain there is at Whistler, and they're right, but there is much more in the blue to green category.  W/B is a HUGE place, so you may never even notice the gnarly stuff.  You could ski there for weeks, even years, and not ski the same line twice except where you load and unload the chairs.  You won't be required at any time to hang your tips off a cliff or anything though, if you feel adventurous, you could ride the Peak chair at Whistler for a similar thrill before skiing a green or blue down from the top (you'll most definitely want the bar down for this ride).  You could spend your entire time there on blues and greens and never get bored.


Edited by Posaune - 4/4/16 at 1:40pm
post #44 of 53

Posaune is exactly on point.  JH is not a great choice as there is much less non-expert terrain.  WB is a great choice because there is a lot of terrain for everyone.  And if it winds up that you can handle all that WB offers, then JH may be a good choice for a subsequent trip.

 

Mike

post #45 of 53
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Everyone is making a big deal of how much expert terrain there is at Whistler, and they're right, but there is much more in the blue to green category.

I still think W/B is poor for beginners because most of the truly easy terrain is low with often sloppy snow conditions. Greens up higher would be blue on most mountains.  The relative trail markings at Whistler are more demanding than at most Colorado areas, though not as demanding as at Snowbird or Jackson.  Stronger or more adventurous intermediates like the OP will have have more than enough at W/B to be happy for a week. 

post #46 of 53

I'm a 'know nothing' Aussie novice and have not been to Jackson. My family and myself skied at WB a few years ago as beginners and loved it. It was late in the season so we skied mid mountain up in the majority. There was tons of area to ski in the green/blue category. The whole area has so many positives it's hard to argue a reason not to go. Out of the relatively small amount of hills I've skied only Mammoth goes close to having the variety that WB does. I will second that Snowbird is a completely different story. It was almost difficult for us to find a decent amount of runs that suit our intermediate family. If Jackson is more 'expert' than Snowbird I will wait a few years before heading that way. :)

post #47 of 53

The biggest difference is snow quality,  W/B is martime snow, so it will be heavier and denser, JH snow is much lighter.  Both mountains have plenty of expert terrain, IMO, JH terrain is more exciting.  There is also a possibility of driving to Grand Targhee on a powder day.   

post #48 of 53
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If Jackson is more 'expert' than Snowbird I will wait a few years before heading that way. :)

 

I think Jackson Hole has a lot of great intermediate terrain...BUT, we're not talking about "easy blues" here.  Just about everything at JH is steep.  But for confident intermediates, JH and Grand Targhee are super-fun and have plenty to enjoy and plenty to challenge you should you want to push things to the next level.  If you don't like it steep, then JH is probably not a good fit.

post #49 of 53
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All good info.. Neither of us have been to Whistler, he's been riding for 10 years and has done Montana, Colorado, Utah, etc. So his level is obviously above mine. But, I don't have much to compare to since I've only been to Utah now and just Snowshoe in WV, etc. Which is no where near what I hear by all of you guys' comments would be comparable. Tahoe may be a better move then for us, maybe Whistler the following year. We're planning on going somewhere every year for snowboarding so.. just depends where.. I'm just trying to gauge whether or not it'd be worth it for us to go to Whistler.

Originally, we were going to go to JH with me only have 1 year under my belt but now this is my 2nd year and I'm fine but again, we were only in Utah for 5 days riding. So maybe just Tahoe smile.gif
Luna, if you don't have a specific time frame for your trip, why not plan to attend the Gathering, which will be at Whistler March 5-11, 2017? A bunch of us on this thread will likely be there. We tend to group up by ability level (all are welcome) and terrain interest and have people who act as guides. Fun is mandatory.
post #50 of 53

Jackson's blues are steep, but they are more wide open and usually less bumped up than Snowbird's.  With good snow conditions I think Jackson is better for intermediates than Snowbird.

 

The only caveat is that Jackson groomers are even higher proportion partial south exposure than the mountain as a whole.  So the window of pleasing snow surfaces after mid-February is short if it hasn't snowed recently.

 

I don't see an official thread on March 5-11 for the Whistler Gathering in 2017, but informally I had heard that would be the week.

post #51 of 53
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Jackson's blues are steep, but they are more wide open and usually less bumped up than Snowbird's.  With good snow conditions I think Jackson is better for intermediates than Snowbird.

 

The only caveat is that Jackson groomers are even higher proportion partial south exposure than the mountain as a whole.  So the window of pleasing snow surfaces after mid-February is short if it hasn't snowed recently.

 

I don't see an official thread on March 5-11 for the Whistler Gathering in 2017, but informally I had heard that would be the week.


If the intermediate runs are too steep for the folk at Jackson, there's not really an option for another resort (other than driving to Grand Targhee -- at least an hour away).  If the intermediate runs are too steep at Snowbird, you have Alta right next door.

 

Mike

post #52 of 53
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Luna, if you don't have a specific time frame for your trip, why not plan to attend the Gathering, which will be at Whistler March 5-11, 2017? A bunch of us on this thread will likely be there. We tend to group up by ability level (all are welcome) and terrain interest and have people who act as guides. Fun is mandatory.

Nice! I would LOVE to do a trip with some folk on here, everyone is very helpful.. super nice.. and not a d-bag ;) And sure, I know it's only my 2nd year this year.. but definitely more confident after this year.. just need to gain a bit more speed and I'll be good to go.. I'm not sure if I can hit Whistler then, we're finally decided on Whistler or Tahoe for another Valentine's Day trip.. My bf goes riding to 2 places.. one with his friends and then just us. One day we'll get a good group going we hope.. but until then.. just trying to get some folks' take on all these areas. 

 

There was a cool website he found called snowbombing.com and it's EDM music with a riding in Austria.. maybe one day ;) But after riding I'm done for the day, I doubt I could make a concert event afterwards.. Ha! Getting old :p 

post #53 of 53

BUMP for summer readers

 

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Luna, if you don't have a specific time frame for your trip, why not plan to attend the Gathering, which will be at Whistler March 5-11, 2017? A bunch of us on this thread will likely be there. We tend to group up by ability level (all are welcome) and terrain interest and have people who act as guides. Fun is mandatory.

 

Whistler Gathering discussion:

http://www.epicski.com/t/146637/whistler-2017-gathering-general-info-questions-and-advice-thread

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