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DangerousBrian, tell us about Maier

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
Hey DB, Let us know what ORF and the newspapers are saying about Maier. They don't cover skiing in this country (ESPN spent about eight seconds on the story, no exaggeration), and I know that Austria has constant coverage even when there's nothing happening.
Give us some translations, etc.
post #2 of 22
Wow. He must have been really booking it when he hit that ditch. The X-Rays are truly scary. I hurt just looking at it.


Dante non ha mai immaginato questo cerchio dell'inferno!
post #3 of 22
His website is www.hermannmaier.at
post #4 of 22
I was at his site last nite, there is a forum, if you want to leave a message....also a picture in the files of him riding his bike, obviously he rode often.
post #5 of 22
I lost a freind in a similar accident years ago. It's one of the reasons I don't do crotch rockets.
post #6 of 22
A rough translation of the latest news off of the Austrian news site posted by Brian above states that doctors are for now not worried about needing to amputate Maier's leg as no sign of infection exists as evidenced by improved kindney function.

Maier has been able to move his toes which Doctors say indicates good blood circulation following the surgary including the skin graft from his arm. He has been visited by his parents, his friend Gudrun and
brother. His coach also visited him.

The Austrian President flew back from Canada to visit Maier but the Herminator was sleeping when the President arrived.

Maier is said to be improving psycologically as well though he was earlier very depressed.
He was very upset about his accident.
He starts physical therepy monday.

My words:
Maier is a supurb Athelete and at 28 years old and in otherwise excellent physical condition I am hopeing that he can make
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post #7 of 22
Best of luck to Hermann. I think he may very well be able to mount a comeback in a couple of years. But he's not out of the woods yet. The kidney function and risk of infection are two separate issues. Sounds like the possibility of kidney failure from the extensive muscle damage he sustained is not likely, which is very good for him. But with such a serious injury (especially if he had an open fracture, which I'm not certain that he did) the risk of infection (particularly bone infection) is still significant and can not be definitively ruled out for some time yet.

Thanks for all of the links and information about his accident.
post #8 of 22
I believe his fractures were open, as I read that the Doctors were very concerned to find some chips of paint stuck to pieces of his bone during wound debridement. I also remember reading that there was gross contamination at the wound site as well as much devitalized muscle tissue.

As one who has suffered compound tibia and fibula fractures (albiet not as serious as his), I have much empathy for him in the upcoming days and months! He is young and strong, which are definately factors in his favor, but it is a long, hard painful road to travel.

He will be sorely missed at the Olympics this year!
post #9 of 22
Bone infection is scary! After the tib plateau explosion I suffered (see speed thread),I went into PT...almost 30 days later blew up with osteomylitis (sp?). A long, sorry story, many doctors (lost 1 quack) who stitched me up like a thanksgiving turkey with tobomyicen (my sister is a pharmacist, ya think I could spell this stuff)beads after debridement. Five ops later with the Steadman boys, and 6 weeks IVing myself with Vancomyicin they cut me loose.
Still could suffer a latent return...kinda like the geardia I got from Purgatory in 84!
Bone infections are indeed, scary! I remember in my drug induced haze hearing, "worst case, we lose the leg"!
Good luck Herman!
post #10 of 22

Thanks for the correction.

I don't know anything about medicine but I went back and re-read the article. Die Artze (the Doc's) were concerned about kindey failure due to the loss of muscle mass not from potential infection.

Apparantly following the graft and other surgary circulation in his leg is good and his kidney functions have improved.

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post #11 of 22
Thread Starter 
Thanks, Brian. More translations if you have some time (nicht werstehst Deutsche). Very, very irritating how this has generated NO media attention here.

Let's go, Hermann.
I really wish he hadn't been on that motorcycle.
post #12 of 22
From the BBC - I hope he makes a full recovery and competes again, maybe sooner than we think.

Monday, 27 August, 2001, 10:21 GMT 11:21 UK
Maier escapes amputation

Austrian skier Hermann Maier could be out of intensive care by the end of the week, according to his doctor.

The double Olympic champion sustained multiple injuries when he was thrown from his bike in a collision near the Austrian town of Radstadt on Friday.

But he no longer faces the prospect of losing a limb, according to his surgeon, Arthur Trost.

"The risk of amputation has now passed," Trost said.

Maier, who also sustained a severe compound fracture of the leg and serious damage to muscle tissue, has improved steadily over the course of the weekend.

"Hermann Maier is in a much better condition than he was Saturday," said Alois Karlbauer, medical director at the Salzburg clinic where Maier is being treated.

"He has seen for himself that his leg is still there and that he can move his toes."

Trost added that initial kidney problems were well under control but admitted that Maier suffered shock after his leg was almost taken off in the accident.

"He really panicked," said Trost.

Maier's family stated that despite an intial period of depression, his spirits have lifted since surgeons assured him that he would not lose his leg.

The accident threatened the end of his career after the Austrian badly broke his leg when he crashed into a car driven by a 73-year-old German man.

Maier reportedly hit the rear left side of the vehicle and was thrown into a roadside gully. The accident is still being investigated.

He was taken by helicopter to hospital in the city of Salzburg and immediately underwent emergency surgery.

Doctors operated on Maier for over seven hours at a Salzburg hospital and a plastic surgeon had to graft skin from Maier's left upper-arm to the right leg.

New hope

Since the accident Maier's doctors said he had been gently exercising his muscles and doing breathing exercises.

One of the team of doctors treating him, Johannes Zeibig even offered a glimmer of hope that Maier could even surprise everybody on the road to recovery:

"It is not impossible that Hermann can return to top fitness."

Maier's personal trainer Heinrich Bergmuller concurred, insisting that:

"He has the kind of physical makeup which would allow him to return to full fitness without any problems.

"When the doctors give the go-ahead for training to resume he could get his fitness back in a month if he really wanted to."
post #13 of 22

Thanks for the info on Maier. His accident was a shocker. I was in Portillo the same week the first Austrian team (i.e.Maier) was training. My guide knew him and we exchanged hellos in the morning warm-up runs. The guide indicated Maier was a great guy. No pretenses or condescending attitude, just a fine fellow. It was common to have Maier pass you on morning warm-up runs like a bullet. Then we'd watch him run some gates on the Roca Jack which then turned into a Super G course on the bottom. He'd hold an edge in a right-hand turn where his hips were an inch from touching the snow. Incredible skier! His recovery will be long, but he has the competitive spirit to be back on the slopes. It's a shame he'll be out this season.
post #14 of 22
It seems to me that we should all hope (if not bet) on Maier being able to return to skiing this season - it's whether or not he can compete that's more in doubt, from what I've seen after the first "panic-reports". Athletes in top shape often recover faster/better than the average, after all. A lot of what's been reported sounds like it's out of the National Enquirer.
post #15 of 22
Last season the Austrian team based their summer training at Treble Cone, Wanaka. They were usually finished their training by the time the field opened so never saw him racing, but he had impressive thighs and glutes in that racing suit. All that muscle will have helped him take the impact.

mrs twoKiwis
post #16 of 22
Jaws, thanks for the bbc link. Certainly that sounds much better than earlier.

Ski racing without Maier is almost inconcievable. It seems as if he's single handedly pushed everyone in ski racing to a higher level. His style and power have been a thrill to watch. This is important because he made skiing exciting for a lot of people. Even without knowing anything you could tell he was really going for it. There was tremendous skill and physical conditioning involved. Perhaps ski racing wasn't just some technical thing won by the person with the best wax.

It was fun to watch also because he loved it. Just like you could tell Jordan loved playing basketball it was obvious Maier loved to ski. This joy for the sport combined with incredible skill and a drive to win have made Maier one of the great athletes of our time.

Others have come back from horrendous physical injuries to race again - Marc Ghiradelli and Brian Stemmle. Physically I could see it being possible but how do you get used to the idea again that you can throw yourself into a turn at 60 mph with your body a couple of inches from the ground?
post #17 of 22
Thanks for the updates!

Has it been reported what type of fixation was used to reduce the fractures? My guess is either an external fixator, or a (locked) intramedullary nail. Either way, I believe he will face additional surgeries during the course of his healing. Also, any word on his knee? It is not uncommon to have knee involvement (ligaments, tendons, meniscus) with a leg injury this serious. Generally, they will stabilize and treat the fractures first and let them heal, then if necessary, surgically repair any collateral knee damage.

If anyone is interested take a look at the link I have posted, as it is very informative and detailed in its discussion of open/compound fracture types and fixation methods.

Just curious, has anyone else here suffered open/compound tibia and fibula fractures?

I have much faith that Hermann Maier will heal well!
post #18 of 22

I can't find the link to the original story about Hermann's accident on www.news.at with the post-op X-rays but I seem to remember noticing that his tibia was nailed. No news as far as I know concerning knee involvement.

Thanks very much for the link; it was very informative.
post #19 of 22
Let's hope there's no knee damage too. Phil Mahre (or steve?)had a bunch of screws in his ankle what- a year and a half before the Olympics?
It's a shame Maier won't be at the Olympics this year but it's great that he may compete again.
post #20 of 22
Tog -

Phil Mahre shattered the hell out of his ankle and had numerous screws, pins and a plate implanted) less than a year before winning his silver medal in the 1980 olympics! Critics had just about written him off...what a mistake!

His return and dominance was (and still is) incredibly impressive to me!
post #21 of 22
In my experience, the thing that makes world champions different from everyone else is their incredible mental toughness. I don't doubt for a second that Herman will be back.
post #22 of 22
Mahre's recover is incredibly impressive. I think I remember seeing an x-ray of the ankle with all that stuff in it.

I can't read the German but, check out this link for a map of the accident. Basically the guy just made an illegal left and cut Hermann off. Hermann's speed is listed as about 80 km/h (50mph). http://www.salzburg.com/sn/sonderber..._20001028.html

also from hermann's site listed above: http://www.hm1.com/e_herminator.htm

>> "Maier had an open break of both bones in the right lower leg, heavy bruising to both hips and the right upper leg and knee, right heel and left lower leg. Bruising and inflammation of the upper lip and nose. In addition Maier sustained a light impact to the head and lost parts of two front teeth."

The operation team fixed the lower leg in place with a titanium rod and transplantated with a free skin flap from his upper arm area at his lower leg. <<

>> If no complications occur, the doctors anticipate, Maier can expect a complete recovery within months. Says Peter Schröcksnadel, President of the Austrian Ski Federation (ÖSV): "Right now winning is secondary to Hermanns general health. But with his unique physical condition he will win this race too." <<

Good luck Hermann!

Anyone know what the story is with the pig? Is that for Flachau or what? Also, the picture shown in the news article I assume is Hermann's bike before the crash. Pretty rad modified Harley!
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