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Fitting boot to smaller or larger foot?

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Hi All,

I tried on today the Lange 130 LF boots (with a foot bed) and it was great on my left foot. However, it really felt too small for my right foot. For a performance fit, should I be fitting to the smaller foot and then stretching the other boot? A tech mentioned that the width of the feet was only quarter size difference. (perhaps my right foot is just chunkier )

PS: This is the fit same issue as in my Rossignol Power 90 boots, where after putting in custom cork insoles, the right boot would require me unbuckling while on lifts.

Maxim
post #2 of 14
You need to get to basics and check the shell fit. Liners can be all over the place in fit, and can be adjusted quite a bit or even replaced. If the shell fit is correct for the smaller foot, and can accomodate the larger foot with reasonable stretch, punch and grind; that is the way you want to go. After shell fitting check the liner size without putting them back in the boot. I have actually had liners too small, but the shells are great.

Most boots, unless they have high performance liners, will compact ahd get larger. If you are boarderline in fit, getting the next size larger will leave you with useless boots by mid-season. Eliminate the possibility that the liner is short-lasted, before opting to a larger boot. BTW, try a Nordica Hot Rod just for the heck of it.
post #3 of 14
ALWAYS fit the smaller foot. No exceptions. Boots can be made way bigger than you ever imagined; they can't be made much smaller.

Don't even think about Hot Rods if you like the fit of a 130 LF.
post #4 of 14
TC, my suggestion was based on the poster's complaint of numbness and 6th toe issues. The Hot Rod is a higher volume boot (basically a softer Doberman) with thick enough plastic for adjustments, and a performance liner. Completely different from the low volume Lange, which is why I suggested see what it does to try on a higher volume boot without upsizing.
post #5 of 14
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Originally Posted by Takecontrol618 View Post
ALWAYS fit the smaller foot. No exceptions. Boots can be made way bigger than you ever imagined; they can't be made much smaller.
Right on, 618!
post #6 of 14
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider View Post
TC, my suggestion was based on the poster's complaint of numbness and 6th toe issues. The Hot Rod is a higher volume boot (basically a softer Doberman) with thick enough plastic for adjustments, and a performance liner. Completely different from the low volume Lange, which is why I suggested see what it does to try on a higher volume boot without upsizing.
I may have been a bit too blunt; I really like the Hot Rod's shell and think it has a great out-of-the-box fit. The problem though is that the great static fit is provided by a liner that is way too plush for a performance boot. Despite claims that the Hot Rods aren't like all the other non-dobie Nordicas, we're hearing from a lot of folks (including the shop manager, who I guarantee wouldn't allow his own boot to be oversized) that the liners are packing out obscene amounts for a boot of that performance level. I think a Lange with a punched out 6th toe and maybe a little grind off the bootboard to drop theinstep a bit would be a much better solution than just putting him into a pair of Nordica Boats and declaring the problem to be fixed.
post #7 of 14
Thread Starter 
Does anyone have a link to a good guide on gauging shell fit? Would I be looking at the shell with the custom insoles? How much space should be on the sides vs. the front/back? Etc etc.

Thank you!
post #8 of 14
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Does anyone have a link to a good guide on gauging shell fit? Would I be looking at the shell with the custom insoles? How much space should be on the sides vs. the front/back? Etc etc.

Thank you!
Width is tough to tell from a shell fit unless its obviously too narrow. As far as length goes, somewhere around 1.5 fingers for most skiers looking for performance, 2 for skiers looking for comfort.
post #9 of 14
Skip the fingers. They vary in thickness.
Use a known good measuring device.

1/2" for performance
3/4" for comfort.

AA minimag works great. narrow end is 1/2"
head end is 3/4"

A few good shops I've been in have a wood dowel with each end cut down to the correct diameter for a quick check.

DC
post #10 of 14
I have wide feet EE or EEE. I hanve Tecnica Icon ALU Comps. One of my feet hurt more than the other, but both hurt. Pierre(on EPICSKI) made footbeds for me, and tweaked them. The result no more pain, at least not excruciating pain. A good bootfitter may be able to make some tweaks with footbeds to fix your problem.
post #11 of 14
Good advice for someone looking to do their own check, but I wouldnt fault a shop for using fingers- the guy doing fitting a dozen different customers a day can probably get a better idea of just how much space there is with his hand than with a dowel. But I'm sure it still works just fine.
post #12 of 14
Thread Starter 
Hmm, so I tried on a 120 MF 9.5 and a 130 LF 9.5. Both fit without issues, but as soon as I put in the custom cork footbed, the instep becomes intolerable on my right foot. That's the same thing that happened with Rossi Power 90 boots. Can anything be done about the instep? Should a footbed really be doing this?
post #13 of 14
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Hmm, so I tried on a 120 MF 9.5 and a 130 LF 9.5. Both fit without issues, but as soon as I put in the custom cork footbed, the instep becomes intolerable on my right foot. That's the same thing that happened with Rossi Power 90 boots. Can anything be done about the instep? Should a footbed really be doing this?
Absolutely, lots can be done. you can grind the boot board to lower your foot, stretch the shell, move the buckle, many options. Just don't get the boots too big. Especially the Lange MF. the boot packs out a ton!!!!

if you can hack it go withe the 130, much thinner liner, less likely to pack out. fit to your smaller foot and grind 1st then stretch if necessary to fit your bigger foot!
post #14 of 14
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Width is tough to tell from a shell fit unless its obviously too narrow. As far as length goes, somewhere around 1.5 fingers for most skiers looking for performance, 2 for skiers looking for comfort.
1.5 is a lot for performance, especially if the liners pack out at all. I suggest 1 max (about 1cm). Some folks go 0 fingers, and I'm likely to get close to that if I get new boots this year. Some go negative (at least one very high-level skier on this forum, in fact!).
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