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post #1 of 13
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I'm thinking of buying some skis this season and am looking for something that will last me a few years. I probably ski about 2 or 3 times a year (maybe 10-20 days per year...not a lot but it's all I can get away for).
My level is 8 I think (can carve well on most easy slopes, happy skiing black slopes, etc.)
Height: 6ft
Weight: 80kgs / 178lbs

From some previous posts and searching through the forums I have come up with the following shortlist:

Head Monster im72
K2 Public Enemy
Fisher RX-8
K2 Apache X / Crossfire
Blizzard ?

I'm mainly looking to ski European resorts but may occasionally venture out to Canada/US. Most of the time this will be on-piste but wouldn't mind the occasional off-piste capable ski as well.

So, I guess I'm looking for something in the 67-72 mm waist range and maybe about 165cm long.
Any thoughts on these measurements and/or the skis above? The Head Monster is my favourite but I can't find it in many places. The Blizzards seem very popular in a store I looked at but I don't know much about them.
post #2 of 13
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Originally Posted by GordonFreeman View Post
I'm thinking of buying some skis this season and am looking for something that will last me a few years. I probably ski about 2 or 3 times a year (maybe 10-20 days per year...not a lot but it's all I can get away for).
My level is 8 I think (can carve well on most easy slopes, happy skiing black slopes, etc.)
Height: 6ft
Weight: 80kgs / 178lbs

From some previous posts and searching through the forums I have come up with the following shortlist:

Head Monster im72
K2 Public Enemy
Fisher RX-8
K2 Apache X / Crossfire
Blizzard ?

I'm mainly looking to ski European resorts but may occasionally venture out to Canada/US. Most of the time this will be on-piste but wouldn't mind the occasional off-piste capable ski as well.

So, I guess I'm looking for something in the 67-72 mm waist range and maybe about 165cm long.
Any thoughts on these measurements and/or the skis above? The Head Monster is my favourite but I can't find it in many places. The Blizzards seem very popular in a store I looked at but I don't know much about them.
Do you enjoy the thrill of carving quick turns? consider the RX8.

Otherwise, the Monster 72 is a good match. The RX8 will give you better hard snow carving ability, but the Monster will be more versatile.

Cheers,

Michael
post #3 of 13
don't be afraid to go a little bit wider... up to about 78 is probably good in terms the sort of ski you seem to be looking for.

i would also look at:

Elan 666 if you can still find them
or Elan Magfire 10 or 12
Stoeckli Stormrider XL
Fischer RC4
Fischer RX8
Atomic Metron 9
Volkl AC2 or AC3
Nordica Hot Rod

All quite good edge to edge but will help with a bit of float in the deeper stuff too


Good Luck!
post #4 of 13
DEMO!

I highly suggest trying some of the skis on your shortlist.

As for the Blizzard, I have a pair of Titan 8s. They rip.
post #5 of 13
Good list you've got there. If you're leaning towards the iM72, it's a great ski, but you might look at the iM77 - it'll give you a bit more versatility off-piste without giving up much on-piste. I would also suggest that something longer than 165 would suit you best, given your size. You'll gain extra stability if you went with a 170+.
post #6 of 13
170 cm.
Add Atomic SX11 or 12 and Head XRC1200 or 1400 chip to the list.
post #7 of 13
Thread Starter 
The Head Monster iM 77 is a freeride ski though isn't it? Is the carving ability close to that of the 72 and/or RX8 ?
post #8 of 13
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The Head Monster iM 77 is a freeride ski though isn't it? Is the carving ability close to that of the 72 and/or RX8 ?
The 77 is a great ski for a wide range of conditions. The ski is wide enough for softer condition, but is not ideal for truly deep snow. The ski also is excellent on hard snow with very good edge grip for a ski this wide. The ski does require an energetic skiing style and will feel unresponsive in the bumps. This is a good one-ski-quiver model for skiers who travel to a variety of resorts and need to be able to ski a wide range of conditions.

Cheers,

Michael
post #9 of 13
Thread Starter 
Out of interest, the RX8 has a waist of 66cm. So, surely this is a piste only ski ?
post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by GordonFreeman View Post
Out of interest, the RX8 has a waist of 66cm. So, surely this is a piste only ski ?
Hi Gordon,

The RX8 is an on-piste ski, however it will ski well in boot-top deep snow. Many 66mm wide skis are difficult to use on anything but hard-pack. Most narrow high performance skis are too stiff with excessive camber and tend to tip-dive in deep soft snow. The RX8, and a few others, will ski deeper snow without excessive tip-dive and are stable without excessive deflection in crud. The ski will not float well, and heavier skiers will struggle more than lighter skiers in soft snow.

If all around versatility is important, consider the Monster 72 or 77. These will provide 80% of the carving ability of the RX8. The Heads are a less lively feeling, but this is a benefit in variable snow. The Heads do provide greater crud-busting stability in variable snow than the RX8.

Both the Heads and the RX8 promote an active carving style and reward energetic input. The RX8 is a lively, quick-turning marvel. The Heads are a little less rewarding on hard snow but offer better performance on soft snow.

Cheers,

Michael
post #11 of 13
Gordon, I don't know where you ski most, but I'm in Europe and find the Monster 72 is ideal as an all-rounder. Its performance on the ice we get is, I found, better than many skis with 67/68 waist. It also handled powder up to about mid-calf quite happily. You probably wouldn't want to run a slalom course on it, or disappear off for a full day in nothing but knee-deep+ powder, but for everything in between it's a great compromise. If it suits you. We got ours in St Anton last year, and there were plenty around in Courchevel too. None that I saw in Switzerland however.

To be honest, in European conditions, if most of your time is spent on piste with only the occasional excursion off, I really wouldn't go as wide as a 77/78 waist. Better just to hire a fattie if it dumps it down, or if you go to the US/Canada
post #12 of 13
Thread Starter 
Most of the time it will be in Europe and I think the conditions match exactly what you said!
Roughly how much were they in St Anton as I was even thinking of going there this year?
I've seen some on eBay for about £260, whch seems reasonable.
post #13 of 13
Gordon, we paid fractionally over € 1100 for both pairs of skis including bindings and DSV ski insurance. Not the best deal around, but it was a) very early season and b) the shop we used (Jennewein) were very active with their input into our testing. Plus we got a discount for buying 2 pairs and once we'd imported them back into CH, they came in at well under the CHF 800 which was the best price we found here for the Wild Thang (the ladies' equiv last year). We also have a service owing as part of the deal. Some of the best deals seem to be on Ski Bilek (www.ski-bilek.de) and they sell a lot on eBay
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