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post #1 of 17
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I'm getting back into skiing after quite a few years and it seems like there are very good deals on used skis at ebay. I've read alot on all the different skis and have decided on getting a pair of inexpensive used skis that has adjustable bindings like demo bindings. Either as a start on a quiver or for a friend~extra ski just incase. Then a main ski/binding setup in the $300~400 range. I will be skiing at Timber ridge ski area in lower michigan, so I'll have to deal with ice/hardpack as well as occational lake effect powder dumps.

I'm 5ft 11inches tall and around 150lbs and need to know what ski sizes/models would work best. With straight skis I used 188cm rossi 4s with an eps2 riser plate and could ski dynamic parallel,carving and generally coudl ski anywhere except they didnt like going too fast :/ I need some suggestions, there are just so many different skis/sizes out now its hard to decide. I'm seriously looking at a pair of red elan scx 173cm skis on ebay, they are cheap but maybe too big?

Perhaps you could lend me some thoughts on any cheap yet good used skis/volant power karve,elan scx,lots of rossi shaped skis that seem to be beginner skis..ew on beginner skis or thoughts if any of the used cheap skis on ebay are good at all.

For my main pair I hear Atomic Izor's are amazing but I still havnt made up my mind yet. I want something that can handle decent speed guessing 40~45mph when its icy and fast conditions. Yet, be able to make lots of snappy short carving turns to best make use of shorter runs~hills and not useless in powder~soft snow.

Your thoughts and help will be greatly appreciated, I still cant beleive how much ski tech has changed over the years.
post #2 of 17
First of all, many of the skis you listed, I have no idea how they ski, so I'll just recommend stuff that I know works.

Very fun ski that I recommend to everyone who isn't a die hard racer and wants some action on the groomers: Fischer RX series. The Rx-6 is a good intermdiate-advanced ski, while the RX-8 is beefier. The RX-9 has a pseudo-gs sidecut. These will handle ice and but will be okayish in cut-up snow or soft stuff in shorter lengths. Same thing for the SC WC, but it is geared more towards citizen racing (while being a very fun ski nonetheless).

The old RPM line at Rossi were capable skis wich can be had very cheap I think. The 120 especially wasn't nimble, more of brute than anything else, but it loved to go fast and didn't have a lot of sidecut. It wasn't a typical Rosi board. The 90 was tamer and more friendly.

The old Elan fusion S12, if you can find it, was a good allround ski. The newer ones are even better, but they are more costly.

Finally, 350-400$ range is not bad at all if you're planing on buying used. I see lots of deals everyday on here for skis in that price range.

PS: If you're referring to the red Elan SCX that has balck on it (with only the word SCX etched at the tip), avoird at all cost: this was something of a 2000-2001 ski and things have changed a lot for the better since then.
post #3 of 17
Thread Starter 
Well those scx skis did have some black stripe angled like |\ right before elan on the tips. On ebay it was titled
Elan SCX 15 173cm Shaped Snow skis w/bindings
and they do look kinda old style.

The fischer rx-8/9 does look good, but how would they compare to atomic Izor 9.7 168cm skis? Perhaps 168cm skis are too long? I think they should be alright for me/my style but not 100% sure. I'm considering just getting one main pair of skis then put some extra money into new goggles or something. I just remembered my goggles are kinda old and there is alot of new accesories out worth the money~goggles,new gloves etc. Anyways, thanks for the reply
post #4 of 17
Thread Starter 
What about the used volant skis on ebay that are selling for $50~60 buy it now? I've heard the powerkarve is/was a good ski but...its kinda old. Are they structurally sound~dont fall apart or have any major flaws in their design?
post #5 of 17
"Dynastar Intuitive 68L in a 175 with demos in good condition for $50" - right here on epicski: http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=43487

Should be an easy, versatile carving ski. The "L" may mean its designed as a woman's ski but it's a nice manly blue color, no flowers or butterflies; likely just a little lighter and more flexible in a given length than the man's ski, and perhaps mounted a little forward as well. But given your fairly light weight at 5'11, it could be a good choice, at $50, from someone right here on epic who'll probably be easier to deal with than ebay.
post #6 of 17
Thread Starter 
Hmm, you bring up a good point..buying them from people here probably is a better idea. I'm not quite sure on those dynastars, havnt ruled them out yet. They do look like they could work though. Do alot of used skis show up for cheap just before ski season on the forums?
post #7 of 17
Yup - before, during and after. People here tend to go through equipment and to think about it year round. I've had good experiences buying and selling gear on epic but YMMV.
post #8 of 17
Thread Starter 
I just had a thought...what do you think if I just use my old rossi 4s racing kevlar skis+ marker m27v bindings? The bindings were well taken care of and seem to be in good shape still, though they are old. Perhaps I could get them tested/sign waiver etc so they can work~test them. And if everything checks out alright it should be safe right? I generally ski at fairly low din also if that makes much difference.
post #9 of 17
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Originally Posted by Wildfrogman View Post
I just had a thought...what do you think if I just use my old rossi 4s racing kevlar skis+ marker m27v bindings? The bindings were well taken care of and seem to be in good shape still, though they are old. Perhaps I could get them tested/sign waiver etc so they can work~test them. And if everything checks out alright it should be safe right? I generally ski at fairly low din also if that makes much difference.
Before my time ... I started skiing around 2001 and don't know the first thing about that vintage equipment. My guess is you're better off dumping that stuff and spending $50 - 100 bucks or so here or on eBay to get recent vintage, moderately shaped skis like the Intuitivs, with demo bindings.
post #10 of 17
I found a list of bindings indemnified for 2004-2005 on the net and the m27v were on it. You could try to get them tested, but seriously, anything post 2002 (some shaped ski still skied worse than staright ski during the 1999-2001 period) will feel a lot better than the 4s and this comes from a guy who still raced the long planks in slalom at the very start of 2000.


Many deals are to be had on this forum that are incredible, especially if you just want a back up pair.
post #11 of 17
Thread Starter 
Ok, I guess thats what I needed to know. That its that much of an improvement even for older shaped skis with demo bindings for cheap yet that will work. I wasnt planning on putting any more money into my current..old old skis, for some reason I thought binding checks were free...lol, chances are thats not the case. In that case yep, either I can keep them for memories or trade them if someone just "has to" have rossi 4s with racing kevlar yello/black color skis in 188cm, eps2 riser plate+marker m27v bindings
post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by BillyRay View Post
I found a list of bindings indemnified for 2004-2005 on the net and the m27v were on it. You could try to get them tested, but seriously, anything post 2002 (some shaped ski still skied worse than staright ski during the 1999-2001 period) will feel a lot better than the 4s and this comes from a guy who still raced the long planks in slalom at the very start of 2000.


Many deals are to be had on this forum that are incredible, especially if you just want a back up pair.
A two year old indemnification list is useless. While the M27 is still indemnified for the 06-07 season, I would't be suprised to see it get dropped in the next two years.
post #13 of 17
Thread Starter 
Hmm thats good news for my bindings, perhaps I'll just use my rossi's and practice waxing/sharpening them so I'm better on my new set of skiis.
post #14 of 17
So, where, and how often do you plan to ski? An investment in good eqipment makes a lot sense when you consider the cost of getting to the hill; especially if you don't live near any. Equipment is not the largest cost most skiers incur. Get good stuff. Spend at least $300 on skis and bindings, and that much again on boots. By the time you drive or fly to where you ski, pay for lodging, meals, lift tickets; the skis are just a piece of it, and they have a lot to do with how you will enjoy the hill. Equipment has progressed by leaps and bounds since 2000. Most 2003 equipment is steeply discounted, but still very current in design. That is where I would suggest starting. I think you could do really well on something like a Volkl 5 Star or 724.

These are good choices for what you described and at a very good entry price. Good luck in the search. Get something good that will keep you coming back and doing your best.
post #15 of 17
Thread Starter 
www.timberridgeski.com has around 240 vert. drop, so a very quick~turny ski that is good on hardpack/ice is needed to get the most out of the runs. If you just rip and go fast you are back to the lift in no time. As for travel expenses..I live close, less than 10min drive away I figured on spending $300ish for a new pair of skis and would rather put the extra money that I save keeping~using my old skis as extras towards new goggles. I probably wont use my older/secondary pair much anyways unless conditions are really bad.
post #16 of 17
I skied on the 4s for years in a 201. You do not want an Elan scx in 173. I'd agree that you're looking for a year old, closeout or lightly used, fairly flexible carver along the lines of a Fischer RX8 or a Dynastar Contact 11, depending on your enjoyment of dampness. I'd avoid the Volkls suggested unless you seek a very different feel and mission. A cheaper alternative that would feel more like your 4s would be the 04-05 Rossi B-1's (not the later models, which are gutless), available at REI and a few other sites for the mid-3's. Buy none of them longer than 170 cm, BTW.
post #17 of 17
Wildfrogman, I didn't recognize you as a student and fairly close to ski areas in my earlier post. BTW, you are not far from TrekChick....Wish I could say the same. Of course, I hear she is over 30 now.

Anyway, the fischer RX series, Volkl Supersport and similar large sidecut skis are a great choice where you are. I agree 100%. Try to find something a year or two old, and the budget you set up should be realistic. Be sure to check the deal just posted by SierraJim for us Bears here, for a brand new pair of Fischer RX6 including bindings. Let us know what you decide
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