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Volkl Supersport Allstar 2006

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
I am considering buying these skis and I just wanted to get some feedback from the members here on these skis. Any feedback would be great!
post #2 of 17
By 2006, do you mean the ones we were skiing in 2006, or the ones that are out now for the 2006/2007 season? I can share my experiences with the first but not the second.
post #3 of 17
Thread Starter 
Sorry about that. I mean the 2006 ones that you were skiing on last season
post #4 of 17
There's a ton of info if you try the "Search" function.
post #5 of 17
Great Ski...[period].
post #6 of 17
Within it's category (mostly groomed terrain) and it's target skier (advanced-expert) and it's preferred speed range (higher speeds) it is a wonderful ski and one of the best.

If you don't fit this profile (Expert, groomer zoomer with a need for speed) than there may be better choices.

It is not really possible to answer your question accurately without more information.

SJ
post #7 of 17
There was a thread or two with a few responses. Check them out.
I kinda liked the skis. They seem ok.:
post #8 of 17
Now that I know the model year to which you're referring, I'd like to comment: I had been skiing and teaching on the Elan S12 Fusions in 160 - loved them, very, very smooth. Then I bought the Volkl All Stars in 161 and have skied and taught on them. Not as smooth as the S12s, but much more lively and responsive. Both are excellent skis with very different feels.

I've had no trouble at all with the All Stars when used at the slower speeds sometimes needed for teaching. At least three of us in my group (the "Wing Nuts") are skiing and teaching on the All Stars.

The skis are intended - by me, anyway - to be used on-piste. For off-piste, I'm getting the AC4 in 170.
post #9 of 17
I thought the Allstars were too stiff and prefer the 5 stars overs the Allstars. I have 5 stars. A friend went from 5 stars to Allstars last year. We both agree that the Allstars definitly require more work to ski than the 5 stars. I personally have 5 Stars (174cm), AC4(170cm), and Rossi B3s (95mm waist / 178cm length). The AC4 with just a tad of powder or more is the most fun ski I have ever been on. For most east coast conditions with hard pack to ice (no new powder), the 5 Stars works best in the majority of east coast conditions. When I go west I bring both the AC4s and B3s.
post #10 of 17
Me : 200cm 80kgs, good skier (for 35 years) but definitely no 'expert'. Rather dated technique...
Demoed a 176 on very hard pack.
Loved the ski : As everybody said, I found them smooth, stable at high speed, lots of grip. Not extermely turny nor lively but they will carve short turns easily with some extra effort. Will skid when needed to without hooking you. Correct in the bumps.
Much more friendly for cruising than a superspeed but still great when skiing agressively. Can't compare with the 5*.
They can manage softer snow but are obviously hard pack skis first.

I don't feel those are 'expert only' skis. An upper intermediate should be happy with them.
Just a caveat : I ski in the alps, maybe on a more 'open' terrain, that favor wide turns, than you are ?
post #11 of 17
So, you're over 6' tall and weigh about 175 lbs and you find the 177 All Stars are ok for an intermediate. I'm 5'8" and overweight at 160 lbs, and the 160 All Stars are fun skis for me, too. No problems, quick truning - or slow, whatever I want. On firm snow, they're good, and in crud, they're not all that wonderful compared to wider skis.
post #12 of 17
Any body can click into any ski as long as the fit is correct. So no ski is limited to certain types of skiers. As far as the Allstar why people call it an expert type ski is it likes to be skiied somewhat agressively, it doesn't reward passive skiing. If you do it takes you for a ride.
The Allstar likes to be ran at higher speeds and is very responsive when skied this way. In crud and deeper snow it takes some confidence in your skiing to rip through such surfaces but when you do it holds up to anything you ask of it.
I love this ski like no other i have owned.
post #13 of 17
Agree with Garry - the Allstar is a fantastic ski at moderate to higher speeds. Definitely rewards an aggressive style. It's much more versatile than I expected - my first day on my 175s we had 5-8 " of fresh and I was a little hesitant at first. Once I realized they were so stable I cut loose and just couldn't believe how well they handled powder and crud for such a hardpack ski. On groomed stuff or light crud over groomed they are just a hoot - if you like to ski fast you'll be amazed at what these can do in a short length.

Not as good for the unskilled or timid skier but manageable.
post #14 of 17
Screw moderate speeds, if youre not going to go fast, dont get it. Its like a turbo engine- it just wants to rip and thats it. You need to take control of it like a master and a Rottweiler. The faster you go through a turn, the more it wants to whip you around. Fun on hardpack groomers, tough in the trees etc.
post #15 of 17
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Originally Posted by philippeR View Post
Me : 200cm 80kgs, good skier (for 35 years) but definitely no 'expert'. Rather dated technique...
Demoed a 176 on very hard pack.
Loved the ski : As everybody said, I found them smooth, stable at high speed, lots of grip. Not extermely turny nor lively but they will carve short turns easily with some extra effort. Will skid when needed to without hooking you. Correct in the bumps.
Much more friendly for cruising than a superspeed but still great when skiing agressively. Can't compare with the 5*.
They can manage softer snow but are obviously hard pack skis first.

I don't feel those are 'expert only' skis. An upper intermediate should be happy with them.
Just a caveat : I ski in the alps, maybe on a more 'open' terrain, that favor wide turns, than you are ?
(yes, quoting myelf...)
To clarify this expert / non expert, speed / cruising debate.
Those skis are made to speed things up. Obviously if you're not interested in fast skiing you won't need them and you would be happier with a 5* or something else. But if you enjoy blasting down a groomer from times to times , the allstars will deliver and still be friendly (unlike some other 'hi-perf' ski) when you'll want a more relaxed pace. IMO of course.
post #16 of 17
I wouldn't consider these as "expert skis", me, as a 15 y/o upper intermediate skier am loving these! When someone has an agressive style (like me) I'd highly reccomend these ones, they keep delivering and don't have a slow 'top speed' in my opinion. Last year i reached 105 km/u with the allstars, which is like 60mph... I think? I'm not sure.
post #17 of 17

I'll chime in, owned the 5*, 6*, skied the Allstars. The series' stiffness peaked with the 6*, which was a true cross ski, 2006's version of the Stockli SX, without the refinement. Id' place the Allstar between the 5* and the 6* in terms of cost/benefit. SJ and a number of others have it about right IMO. Allstar had that back in the day glassy Volkl feel but like most of its offerings from that period, very beefy, preferred speed and user weight, although possible to ski it more slowly if you brought your A game, and they all wanted good basic mechanics, plenty of forward pressure. Excellent in crud and on ice, very high speed limit, the 5* and Allstar were OK/mediocre in bumps, the 6* was an absolute pig. My wife, who's more of a power skier, still rips on the 5* once in a while, but states that her RX12's are significantly better, just as stable, grippier, easier to initiate, smoother. 

 

I have a feeling it's not just her RX's that would feel better by today's standards; the Allstars were the end of a long run of dominance by Volkl that began with the Superstar, which many see as the best of its era, kinda like the Rossi 4S back in the day. So by the time of the Allstar, the basic design assumptions were dated. 

 

Which is my typically long winded way of saying that there are a number of skis today that are more versatile, without giving up much or anything in the way of top end. If it's a great deal, and you are looking for a ski that hits SJ's marks, but will be limited in other ways, then go for it. But if you're just looking for a good bargain for a frontside ski that rips, wow, lot of choices. Volkl still makes nice specimens; if you're lighter, Fischer for sure; and Blizzard probably comes closest to the what Volkl might have evolved into if they kept their mojo. Not sure many of those around cheap, but prolly some Nordica frontside carvers, which are made in the same factory and IMO have a lot of the same characteristics as Blizzard, but don't seem to sell as well... 

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