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Mounting Volkl Karmas and Binding choices

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
Mounting, not mountain..sorry...I've 90% decided to get the Karmas in 185. Now I have to think about bindings and mounting. I know everyone here hates Salomon bindings, but the S914's are the best bindings for what I want: high din, light, no lift, and no plate. I also had them mounted on my CR labs and after I fixed the shitty adjustments that the shop did, had no problems and no bad releases in the park or bumps. I'm 6-1, 200 and set my bindings at 9-9.5. If anyone has another suggestion though, I'd love to hear it.

My question finally, is where to mount. I know the Karma has a range of mount points from FR (back) to FS (forward). I was thinking of going right in the middle of the two. This would leave enough tail for riding switch, but not too much to messup bumps and carving. Thoughts?
post #2 of 16
No one here hates Salomon bindings... Markers don't have the greatest rep, but its not as noticeable on these boards.

The 914s are a good choice. If you're only going to set the DINs at 9, why not a set of 912Ti?
post #3 of 16
Thread Starter 
Good question. Had S912Tis on my Pocket Rockets and I had a lot of problems with the toe piece loosening. And I skied the PR's primarily in powder so not that much stress on the bindings. I have 914's on my bump skis that take a beating and they never budge. I also might increase to 10 or bit higher. Also, isn't 9.5 pushing what a din 12 binding should have?

I take back what I said peopel hating Salomon bindings. I actually posted this on newschoolers as well, where everyone likes to hate on salomon.
post #4 of 16
If you really want to save weight and not have to deal with the adjustable toe peice at all, you should look into the Z12.
post #5 of 16
912 and 914 toe pieces are identical except for the DIN range.
post #6 of 16
im going to put a pair of rossi 140's on mine, they are a din up to 14, so their man enough, seem kinda light, no Ti binding, but not a bulky marker
post #7 of 16
I've got the 2005/06 Rossi 120 Axial Ti Pro on my 177 Karmas and like 'em fine.

On the Salomon toe piece loosening, I found that a lot of folks mentioned that here and on TGR and suggested Locktiting it. I thought it was interesting that such a "defect" didn't seem to sway anybody's opinion on the Salomons. Both Salomon and Look/Rossi seem to have the best rep on the various forums (with a few hollers for the various Tyrolia set-ups, as well...Marker is the only one that seems to get slagged and I still haven't figure out why).

I have the 2005/06 Karmas. It's the model before they denoted the FR/FS mounting points, so I have them mounted in what would now be the FR position. I don't ski switch nor do I tackle the park or do any jibbing, so I like 'em fine as an all-mountain ride.
post #8 of 16
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Originally Posted by Takecontrol618 View Post
No one here hates Salomon bindings... Markers don't have the greatest rep, but its not as noticeable on these boards.
I don't hate them but would caution to keep an eye on the screw(s) on the sides of the toe wings, they have a tendency to wiggle loose as the binding gets older which lets the boot slop around in the binding.
post #9 of 16
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Originally Posted by dookey67 View Post
I've got the 2005/06 Rossi 120 Axial Ti Pro on my 177 Karmas and like 'em fine.

On the Salomon toe piece loosening, I found that a lot of folks mentioned that here and on TGR and suggested Locktiting it. I thought it was interesting that such a "defect" didn't seem to sway anybody's opinion on the Salomons. Both Salomon and Look/Rossi seem to have the best rep on the various forums (with a few hollers for the various Tyrolia set-ups, as well...Marker is the only one that seems to get slagged and I still haven't figure out why).

I have the 2005/06 Karmas. It's the model before they denoted the FR/FS mounting points, so I have them mounted in what would now be the FR position. I don't ski switch nor do I tackle the park or do any jibbing, so I like 'em fine as an all-mountain ride.

I was looking at a pair of 05/06 Karmas yesterday in a shop and they did have an FS/FR mark.
post #10 of 16
hmmm. mine just had a single "I" mark on the sidewall denoting center-of-boot placement. i never saw any other marks (for example most of the 4Frnt and Ninth Ward skis I've seen have a dead center mark then go back in 1/2cm increments up to 6 cm usually marking the 4.5 zone as "all-mountain/freeride" and the 6 as "powder")
post #11 of 16
Hello everyone. I've just received my flat '07 Karmas today, and deciding on the bindings. My friend actively advocates Looks, and puts down the Tyrolia option as unjustified-costly choice.

So, my question is also - where to mount? I do want to try some park, riding switch/jumping. But I by no means want to give up the joy of glades, occasional off- and onpiste skiing. Can anyone give a profecient insight? Is it really worth paying 300 bucks for Tyrolias, for the ability to shift the bindings? If not, where to mount static (say, Look) bindings?
Thanks alot!
post #12 of 16
Mount them in the all mountain/free ride position. Better to sacrifice switch skiing ability than all mountain performance.
post #13 of 16
Thread Starter 
I was thinking of mounting mine halfway between the two, or maybe 2/3 of the way toward freeride.
post #14 of 16
I just bought a pair that are already mounted (they happen to be the same boot sole length as me so...) but I'm not sure where. I guess I'll have to see when they get here and either give them a try or remount them.
post #15 of 16
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Originally Posted by heD View Post
Hello everyone. I've just received my flat '07 Karmas today, and deciding on the bindings. My friend actively advocates Looks, and puts down the Tyrolia option as unjustified-costly choice.

So, my question is also - where to mount? I do want to try some park, riding switch/jumping. But I by no means want to give up the joy of glades, occasional off- and onpiste skiing. Can anyone give a profecient insight? Is it really worth paying 300 bucks for Tyrolias, for the ability to shift the bindings? If not, where to mount static (say, Look) bindings?
Thanks alot!

You'll pay much less than $300 for Tyrolia Railflex bindings here:

http://levelninesports.com/gear-bind...34.html?page=2

Best prices I have seen, but I'm not sold on the fact that you want the added ride height if you're doing park/switch landings, etc.
post #16 of 16
Don't put freeflex bindings on a freeride ski unless you're looking for a ski with the stiffness of a pocket rocket and the dampness of a volkl.

In other words, never.
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