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post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
No more excuses!

Animated Knot Tying

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Old joke but stll funny!

Two good friends meet in the morning to go backcountry skiing. One says to the other. I am real sorry, I forgot my avalanche shovel. His buddy being a good guy says no problem here you can use mine.
post #2 of 19
That is an awesome site. If I can just reference it while sailing or climbing, I got it made! How did you come across this Catskills?
post #3 of 19
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Originally Posted by catskills View Post
No more excuses!

Animated Knot Tying
Nice. And slower anims than SKB
http://www.sailorsknotboard.com/


SKB has a whisky jug sling tho:
post #4 of 19
Didn't have one of my favorites, the taught line hitch. No matter what, it seemed to analyze all knots for uses while boating. When it trashed a square knot I began to wonder.
post #5 of 19
I thought I was gonna see a cartoon about a wedding!
post #6 of 19
Cheers! If you were here I'd give you a Long Trail Double Bag.

post #7 of 19
Hey Catskills,

Thank you!! I've sent it half a dozen climbing friends and put it on a mountaineering site. It's way cool.

As to the square (reef) knot being trashed: It should be. That may be the most dangerous knot in the history of man. Everyone knows how to do it and it holds, until it (and this happens suddenly) decides not too. My Grandad showed me the dangers of that knot over 40 years ago. His comment was "Anything it will do, there is another knot that will do it better and safer".

Ken
post #8 of 19
Thread Starter 
Just to let everyone know that I got the URL for Animated Knots from a recent posting on the National Ski Patrol members only forum. This is not to say these knots are approved or associated in anyway with the National Ski Patrol.
post #9 of 19
We had a square knot fail yesterday, sending the boom on a 420 into the deck as we were putting it away and barely missing someones head.
post #10 of 19
Actually, I was not advocating a square for heavy uses. I never use them when there is a big load, but they are very useful for everyday stuff like package tying. They just trashed the knot without really saying what it was good for (besides your shoes).

Another knot that was only looked at from the perspective of a boater was the clove hitch. I've never used it in boating becasue, like they say, it slips under stress, but sometimes it's the only knot that will do. Every once in a while I lash stuff together and it is a dandy knot for the ends of the lash.
post #11 of 19
I am not sure why this link ended up in the humor forum (knots are funny??) but it is a great site. I was even more amazed to discover that I know the guy who developed the site! He is a recently retired academic anesthesiologist.
post #12 of 19
Never use a square knot for two ropes of unequal size.
post #13 of 19
The knots might be relavant to the Patrol Room forum. Any objections to putting it there as reference? This seems out of place in humor, even though its not skiing related, it might be fine over there.
post #14 of 19
Regarding the clove hitch: we use it to attach a line to bamboo when closing a trail or making a trail entrance gate because you don't need any ends to make the knot, just 2 loops over the top of the bamboo pole, which is stuck in the snow, that way you can run the line across the trail entrance and make it fast to some trees, then drill the 'boo holes, set the 'boo, raise the line.
post #15 of 19
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Originally Posted by Mr PotatoeHead View Post
Regarding the clove hitch: we use it to attach a line to bamboo when closing a trail or making a trail entrance gate because you don't need any ends to make the knot, just 2 loops over the top of the bamboo pole, which is stuck in the snow, that way you can run the line across the trail entrance and make it fast to some trees, then drill the 'boo holes, set the 'boo, raise the line.
Did you ever see these.
http://www.reliableracing.com/detail...&category=7202
We use them for trail closures, tie the male clip on the downhill side and loop the rope with female clip on the uphill side. When closing the trail, grab the loop of rope with clip attached and ski it to the other side and attach to the other clip that's tied to the other side, attach clip and rope is set. Nicer, but not neccessary, is if you use a loop and a sliding knot on the downhill side so you can adjust tension. When opening trail, go to uphill side, grab rope and give a good pull, clip disengages, loop up rope and the rope is done. We have them permanently set up all over the mountain, they save tons of work, and you you can attach to fixed objects since the clip provides breakaway.....

OK, maybe it should be moved to patrol room.....
post #16 of 19
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider View Post
The knots might be relavant to the Patrol Room forum. Any objections to putting it there as reference? This seems out of place in humor, even though its not skiing related, it might be fine over there.
Catskill and I agree, off to the Patrol Shack.
post #17 of 19
Good find, Catskills! As a whitewater paddler, sailor, and son of a Navy officer, I've always found knots fascinating--not to mention important. I don't know how people who don't know just a few critical knots can get by in life!

Posaune--the Tautline Hitch is also known as the Rolling Hitch, which is on the site. In fact, outside of Ashley's Book of Knots (which the site references throughout), this is the only place I've ever seen that shows the "correct" way to tie the rolling hitch, with the second turn crossed over the first. This creates a little "kink" in the line that makes the knot far more secure. (According to the site, the Tautline Hitch is the uncrossed version, and the Rolling Hitch is the crossed version. Whatever. The crossed version is a much more useful knot!)

Best regards,
Bob Barnes
post #18 of 19
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Originally Posted by Bob Barnes/Colorado View Post
I don't know how people who don't know just a few critical knots can get by in life!
Duct tape, Bob. Duct tape.
post #19 of 19
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Originally Posted by Bob Barnes/Colorado View Post
Posaune--the Tautline Hitch is also known as the Rolling Hitch, which is on the site.
Thanks! Not only did you correct my spelling, you showed me a better way to tie my favorite knot. Now, off to practice.
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