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post #1 of 24
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I need some help choosing a ski. I am buying some 05/06 skis for the upcoming season. I am advanced skill and ski primarily east coast. I am 5'6", 170lb, athletic. I am looking for an all-in-one ski that gives me the most for the money.

Thanks for your help!

Here are my options:

Volkl Allstar 168cm w/ iPT Marker Bindings - $589

Volkl AC4 170cm w/ Marker 1400 Comp PC Bindings - $679

Volkl 5 Star 168cm w/ Motion Bindings - $599

Dynastar Legend 8000 172cm w/ Look PX 12 ti Bindings - $499

Fischer RX8 170cm w/ Integrated Binding - $468
post #2 of 24
If you get the RX8's, get the 165 not the 170. I would strongly reccomend the RX8's. The only other ski on your list I've skied is the 5 Star and while they were good, I found the RX8's to be a lot more fun.
post #3 of 24
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Originally Posted by Birdman829 View Post
If you get the RX8's, get the 165 not the 170. I would strongly reccomend the RX8's. The only other ski on your list I've skied is the 5 Star and while they were good, I found the RX8's to be a lot more fun.
It does seem like a good ski, although I wish it wasn't capped. Why do you prefer the 165cm?
post #4 of 24
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I also found a Elan M666 168cm for $399.

There are so many choices....
post #5 of 24
I'm 5'10" 145#s, been on the L800 at 172, the 5* at 175, the RX8 at 180, and (not on your list) an AC3 at 170 or 172. I echo the choice of the RX8. Whereas I recognized I was on too strong a ski for my weight times velocity squared, it did all I asked of it and didn't "tell me" it was the boss, just behaved beautifully. I VERY much liked it. I can not argue the 170 versus 165, and feel it would depend on your intended primary use.
post #6 of 24
I'm 165# and liked the RX8 at 170, but haven't tried the others.
Where will you be skiing these?
post #7 of 24
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
I'm 165# and liked the RX8 at 170, but haven't tried the others.
Where will you be skiing these?
Vermont and New Hampshire mostly. I am going to Canada and Colorado for a couple of trips this year though.
post #8 of 24
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Originally Posted by Teknikal View Post
I need some help choosing a ski. I am buying some 05/06 skis for the upcoming season. I am advanced skill and ski primarily east coast. I am 5'6", 170lb, athletic. I am looking for an all-in-one ski that gives me the most for the money.

Here are my options:

Volkl Allstar 168cm w/ iPT Marker Bindings - $589

Volkl AC4 170cm w/ Marker 1400 Comp PC Bindings - $679

Volkl 5 Star 168cm w/ Motion Bindings - $599

Dynastar Legend 8000 172cm w/ Look PX 12 ti Bindings - $499

Fischer RX8 170cm w/ Integrated Binding - $468
All those ski's absolutely rock, I own allstar 168 and rx 8 170. My thread "volkl allstars first impressions" commented on both in detail. The 8000 and ac4 and 666 were all on my wish list at one time as well. I am 15 lbs heavier than you. I would agree with birdman829 comments re RX8 165. I skied skimangojazz's 165 rx8 extensively last year too and liked my 170 a lot more....at 170 lbs you might like the 165. Allstar 168 will be like a gs burner for you 161 a bit quicker. 2006 Amazing ski, I haven't ski'd the 2007.

Re the 666 it ski's a bit short 168 would be the shortest choice there IMO. I did not ski the legend but 172 sounds right, I'll let others chime in. That rig with the Looks sounds juicy too.

The list you have is an impressive one. Tell us more about how you like to ski and where and perhaps we can comment more.... or heck just buy a pair from the list and rock on! Search the gear forum every ski on your list has been commented on huge...
post #9 of 24
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Originally Posted by Noah View Post
I'm 5'10" 145#s, been on the L800 at 172, the 5* at 175, the RX8 at 180, and (not on your list) an AC3 at 170 or 172. I echo the choice of the RX8. Whereas I recognized I was on too strong a ski for my weight times velocity squared, it did all I asked of it and didn't "tell me" it was the boss, just behaved beautifully. I VERY much liked it. I can not argue the 170 versus 165, and feel it would depend on your intended primary use.

Wow. Thanks for the info. Seems like the RX8 is a great ski. I am leaning towards the 170, as I don't spend a lot of time in bumps. What do you think?
post #10 of 24
The RX8. 165 for faster, snappier turns, 170 for a bit more rippin' speed. Either one will be fine. They don't ski like a "cap ski", so I wouldn't be concerned. Light, lively, strong edgehold, great overall ski.
post #11 of 24
Decide between the 168 Allstars and the RX8. IMHO, a 170-cm RX8 will be short enough to make any turns you might want to make on a ski hill. By all acounts the 168 Allstars is a great ski too. If you had been in Colorado or western Canada going on a couple of trips east (not likely), I might have picked the 8000 or AC4.
post #12 of 24

oops forgot

also check out "volkl allstars and fischer rx8, we switched and compared" authored by skimangojazz. Three barking bears swapped out my allstar 168, 2 pair of rx8 170's and 165 rx 8's.

Also ssh had a long running thread on rx8's should be easy to find....like I said hit the gear forum. Everything you need to know is there.

Oh, and welcome to epic ski the best snow sports forum on the internet:

We expect full on slope review whatever you choose.

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post #13 of 24
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Originally Posted by hrstrat57 View Post
All those ski's absolutely rock, I own allstar 168 and rx 8 170. My thread "volkl allstars first impressions" commented on both in detail. The 8000 and ac4 and 666 were all on my wish list at one time as well. I am 15 lbs heavier than you. I would agree with birdman829 comments re RX8 165. I skied skimangojazz's 165 rx8 extensively last year too and liked my 170 a lot more....at 170 lbs you might like the 165. Allstar 168 will be like a gs burner for you 161 a bit quicker. 2006 Amazing ski, I haven't ski'd the 2007.

Re the 666 it ski's a bit short 168 would be the shortest choice there IMO. I did not ski the legend but 172 sounds right, I'll let others chime in. That rig with the Looks sounds juicy too.

The list you have is an impressive one. Tell us more about how you like to ski and where and perhaps we can comment more.... or heck just buy a pair from the list and rock on! Search the gear forum every ski on your list has been commented on huge...
I have read through a ton of reviews, but they all sound good!

I like to ski fall lines a lot. The NE snow sometimes keeps you on the groomers. I spend about 30% of the time off-piste.
post #14 of 24
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Originally Posted by Teknikal View Post
I have read through a ton of reviews, but they all sound good!

I like to ski fall lines a lot. The NE snow sometimes keeps you on the groomers. I spend about 30% of the time off-piste.
If you can buy the m666 for $399 with bindings new and like to ski off trail....that might be worth a whirl....I ski'd em in a 176 and loved em. I have a bud who has 178 Legend 8000's and he raves about them as well.

I spend most of my day bombing the blues and easy blacks on trail. The 168 Allstar and 170 RX 8 rock for me....tho they feel completely different. Read the threads I referd to, I tried to describe it. Both are amazing - neither had any speed limit at those lengths for me.....absolute rock solid. I think the 15 lbs might make a difference tho. Of course you may be younger and stronger than me which might negate the weight diff....

I had the Allstar in boot deep powder and bumps one weekend and it shined tho. I did not have the RX 8 in deep snow at all. Allstar mid is 70, RX 8 I think is 66. FWIW

Like I said, great list you got there. All will make you smile. Likely you can't demo so you gotta pick a pair and snag it

Here's a solution....buy the M666 or Legend 8000 and the Allstar or RX8, there ya go!!!

Re AC4 the 2007 is a huge upgrade from what I have been told. I would go 170 there for you probably...tho they are shaping up to be the "hot " ski this year.....

Good luck and once again please post your thoughts when you get your choice on the snow.
post #15 of 24
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Originally Posted by hrstrat57 View Post
If you can buy the m666 for $399 with bindings new and like to ski off trail....that might be worth a whirl....I ski'd em in a 176 and loved em. I have a bud who has 178 Legend 8000's and he raves about them as well.

I spend most of my day bombing the blues and easy blacks on trail. The 168 Allstar and 170 RX 8 rock for me....tho they feel completely different. Read the threads I referd to, I tried to describe it. Both are amazing - neither had any speed limit at those lengths for me.....absolute rock solid. I think the 15 lbs might make a difference tho. Of course you may be younger and stronger than me which might negate the weight diff....

I had the Allstar in boot deep powder and bumps one weekend and it shined tho. I did not have the RX 8 in deep snow at all. Allstar mid is 70, RX 8 I think is 66. FWIW

Like I said, great list you got there. All will make you smile. Likely you can't demo so you gotta pick a pair and snag it

Here's a solution....buy the M666 or Legend 8000 and the Allstar or RX8, there ya go!!!

Re AC4 the 2007 is a huge upgrade from what I have been told. I would go 170 there for you probably...tho they are shaping up to be the "hot " ski this year.....

Good luck and once again please post your thoughts when you get your choice on the snow.
Thanks for all the info. You have been a big help. I think I am going to go with the RX8. I just have to decide which length would be best for the NE.

I ski pretty aggressively, so I am sure I can handle both..
post #16 of 24
I'm sure you could too. I guess I agree with what ssh said. If you want quicker, snappier turns go for the 165. For longer arcs go for the 170. That is not to say that the 165 can't make those longer turns, I demoed it last year and it can do either if you want it to.
post #17 of 24
The RX8 is 68 under foot. I passed my level II skiing in 18" of crud and cut-up and bumps at Breck on the 170. I passed my teaching on the 165 the next year. It's a great ski in almost all conditions. Highly recommended.
post #18 of 24
Once again--demo demo demo..all of those skis ride very differently.
RX8 is 66 underfoot
Just to confuse you...
I ski the 160cm...190#'s
L III Pro

I also ski the AMC 76's-both are great "eastern" skis.
post #19 of 24
RX8 165cm gets my vote.

I haven't been on these skis yet (bought them a month ago or so) but I will say that for nearly 30 days I read everything I could find on these skis and many others. In the end I had to accept that the RX8's are one amazing ski.

Now If it would just start snowing so I can actually use them!
post #20 of 24
Size matters and shorter is better.

I ski the RX8 in a 175cm and I weight 220#.

A 170cm is too long for your size, get the 165cm and you will still have ample stability up to eye watering speeds.

Cheers,

Michael
post #21 of 24
Fischer AMC 79, you should be able to get a good deal here.
post #22 of 24
I'll throw my .02 in. I'm 5'10" 185 and probably spend 90% of my time on groomers. Last year I picked up the RX-9 in a 170 and have absolutely fallen in love with the ski. I put about 90 days on it all here in Telluride and cannot say enough good things about the ski. It was only my second year skiing (at age 54), but I've gotten in about 140 days.

The only thing that the RX-9 didn't do as well as I would have liked was short radius turns. That's why I'm ordering a pair of RX-8's for this season. I demo'd them last year and just love the way the ski comes around. The two skis just compliment each other beautifully.

As I mentioned I was on the 9 in a 170 and have decided to go with a 165 in the 8. One of my "guru's" here advised a 160. We're the same height, but sometimes I think he forgets that I outweigh him by 20 pounds.

Heck, no shorter than 160, no longer than 170. You will not be disappointed in an RX-8.

Ken
post #23 of 24
Thread Starter 
I have decided on the 165cm. Thank you all for your help. I will be sure to leave a review once I get them on the snow.
post #24 of 24
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Originally Posted by Teknikal View Post
I need some help choosing a ski. I am buying some 05/06 skis for the upcoming season. I am advanced skill and ski primarily east coast. I am 5'6", 170lb, athletic. I am looking for an all-in-one ski that gives me the most for the money.

Thanks for your help!

Here are my options:

Volkl Allstar 168cm w/ iPT Marker Bindings - $589

Volkl AC4 170cm w/ Marker 1400 Comp PC Bindings - $679

Volkl 5 Star 168cm w/ Motion Bindings - $599

Dynastar Legend 8000 172cm w/ Look PX 12 ti Bindings - $499

Fischer RX8 170cm w/ Integrated Binding - $468
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Originally Posted by Teknikal View Post
Wow. Thanks for the info. Seems like the RX8 is a great ski. I am leaning towards the 170, as I don't spend a lot of time in bumps. What do you think?
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Originally Posted by Teknikal View Post
Thanks for all the info. You have been a big help. I think I am going to go with the RX8. I just have to decide which length would be best for the NE.

I ski pretty aggressively, so I am sure I can handle both..
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Originally Posted by Teknikal View Post
I have decided on the 165cm. Thank you all for your help. I will be sure to leave a review once I get them on the snow.
I see you went by price . All I have hear is raves about the RX8, good luck with it.
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