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post #61 of 67
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but "Weevin Steve" makes it look so easy!..

Heh... on our L3 exam day we saw some conditions close to this and he was out there skiing on some Salomon 10.3V Sl race skis..

Some day... ... in my dreams...
post #62 of 67
Originally Posted by dchan View Post
but "Weevin Steve" makes it look so easy!..

Heh... on our L3 exam day we saw some conditions close to this and he was out there skiing on some Salomon 10.3V Sl race skis..

Some day... ... in my dreams...
I'm tryin' to cut ya some slack here, Chief!
post #63 of 67
Dchan, I will add my two cents FWIW. I think what is needed is some added movement and refinement of the others. The $64,000 is how do you accomplish this? I don't think you will get there by adding more aggression myself. Instead I would ask you to try this simple progression when you get back on snow. This is one way I find to effectivly get there.

Find a nice long green or blue groomer, and starting out without poles, ski a run or two of Trovalta turns( I'll explain). Start these turns by extending your inside arm and hand up and forward as high and forward as you get it. Keep this extrended posture throughout the turn. This should draw the body long from the inside shoulder to the outside foot. Really stretch this out up and forward. Exagerate the movement. You should find your stance narrowing and you should feel yourself stacking up structuraly to the outside foot and ski and balancing to the outside ski. Keep the inside ski on the snow and working. this doesn't mean it has nothing to do. Spend some time here in this really tall posture. Ski at least two or three runs skiing this way trying to feel how and where the functional tension resides in your torso and core, and how this relate to how the skis are behaving.

Next Ski the opposite end of the spectrum. Ski several runs keeping your palms over your knee caps. Really focus on staying centerd over your feet as you ski. this will force alot of foot and leg activity to happen. Let the long leg short leg happen as needed, but always try to keep your palms over your knee caps. Pay special to where the pressure is under your feet, how much foot and leg activity is happening inside and outside, and relate this to how the skis are working.

Then spend several runs combining these two exercise. Make the first half of your turns like travolta, extending the inside arm up and forward as tall as you can get, and then in the second half of the turn, keeping your inside arm and shoulder up and forward, slowly flex down and place only your outside palm over your outside knee cap. really focus on both of these extremes, keeping the movements slow and progressive. Though I will say that the rate of these movements will increase as he time you use them in each turn is cut in half. As you do this try to refocus back to the internal sensations you identified in the previous runs.

People may look at you funny, but I will just about bet that you will be changing some movements and refining others along with more effective timing, couped with staying more functionaly relaxed and centerd. Give this a serious try this fall.

After this is well rehearsed, try making the movements, keeping the rate, intensity and duration the same, but start keeping your arms and hands in a more functional position. Instead of raising the arm to start, think of raising the shoulder, and it works for you, the inside hip as well. Letting both shoulder and hip move forward through the turn. The outside hand should be slowly alowed to come up and be kept parallel to the snow.

Then take these movements and range of movements and apply them to skiing of the groom. If you try this progession, let me know how it worked out for you. I've had good success teaching this progression and with my own skiing too. Later, RicB.
post #64 of 67
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Originally Posted by Atomicman View Post
I'm tryin' to cut ya some slack here, Chief!
Yeah, I appreciate it. I also can appreciate the skill it takes to ski like that and some day I might get there. Until then, I'll keep working on it.

post #65 of 67
A couple of drills spring to mind --

forwards: no poles, cross arms infront of body, hands on shoulders. Lift elbows to form a 'V' that you look through. Press upper body forwards, no bending at waist. Ski. Try to keep the bottom of the hill in the 'V' while pressing forwards. It can be pretty exciting. Use a gentle green slope that changes to light blue and back and make medium radius turns.

veritical: ski as tall as you can, hold your poles in both hands above your head. Full extension when skis hit the fall-line. Then flex as deeply as possible, hitting the fronts of your boots with the poles at neutral, and re-extend to full extension at fall-line. Or without poles, hands in the air at full extension, and hands to the ankles at full flexion. Again, best on a gentle slope. variations: Head/waist/toes/waist/head at full extension, flexion begins, neutral, extension begins, full extension.

lateral: No poles, clap hands at neutral, touch snow with inside hand before your skiis go parallel to fall-line, and touch outside boot with hand after your skis have passed parallel to fall-line, clap hands, touch snow, touch boot....repeat, repeat, repeat. Initial attempts are clap only, clap and touch snow, then clap, touch snow and touch boots. Your edging skills will help you here! Don't crouch!

Keep it moving!
post #66 of 67
Really when changing movements on the snow, I find that any external focus that requires disciplined movement outside or beyond what you typicaly do will work, if the outcome is in the direction you want/need to go. Couple this with new internal awareness and who knows. Later, RicB.
post #67 of 67
If I may add my two cents. What I'd like to see more:
a) CM inside the turn a lot more (more movement, more edge angle and earlier in the turn)
b) Better use of tactics

To me, these are the two areas that I would make you work on. These were some pretty good turns, but they were not awesome turns. As was said before, your tranistion isn't flowing and it isn't efficient: instead of opting to go "down" the mountain, thus retracting the old ioutside leg and getting the CM into the new turn rapidly, you take the long way around and lengthen the old inside leg (thus making you ride the backseat a bit at transition and necessiting a great old pivot from the skis in order to make them go where you want). This makes for a turn that is:
a) a lot longer in the fall line than what it needs to be
b) not in control the whole way through, wich can spell disaster in horrible condition
What I would make you work on:
1. Choose an easy slope and thrown yourself down the mountain at initiation while concentring on down unweighting. More and more, I believe this is the key to success for many expert skiers who needs to be more "aggressive" or who "stay in the turn too long".
2. Work on a moderate slope on upper-lower body separation (having your poles in front of you like this I0I try to "film" the same point down the mountain at all time). On the steepest, gnarliest terrain, your shoulders aren't paralell to the fall-line, but rather across it, wich delays the down and inside move of the CM that much more in the new turn.

Wich leads us to tactics. Your line was good in some place, less than desirable in others. Vid 1 contained more of the "less desirable" turns, while in vid 2, you executed your turn with more aplomb. With that said, this terrain calls for a lot of changes in radius and shape of turns in order to keep speed and momentum going, along with some mogul skiing (wich is a strange combo that's for sure). I would've gone with a lot less traverses, but with a lot more turns, mixing in it with some sweeping arcs in the toughest part if speed started to get to intense. It is my firm belief that you have all the ingredients necessary to ski down that slope 100x more gracefully and efficiently if you allowed yourself more freedom to play with the terrain instead of reacting to it.
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